Stage II Diet

stock_karr
on 2/15/07 12:28 am - Redwood, NY
What are some good Ideas for food on the stage II diet.   I had a bunch of paperwork with that stuff on it and the wife accidently threw them in the woodstove.     Thanks,     Tim.
HePaid4That
on 2/15/07 12:34 am
I'm assuming that you are talking about the Blended stage Tim.  Creamed anything basically.  I did best with Egg beaters - low cholesterol, low calories with a piece of 2% cheese, high in protein.  I change the variety of cheese for a change in taste.  Champion's pure whey protein stack was good then as well.  But I would call your doc and have them email you or fax those pages.  very important you have all of that.   Several others options but I stuck with egg beaters and eggs a lot for that week or two.  Actually still do and I'm 3 months out.  Still about 25-30% of my diet every day because this is a 150-200 calorie meal.  What nice they are safe and easy on the pouch.  When is your next trip to the doc? All the best. Greg
Ron .
on 2/15/07 12:40 am - DFW, TX
Basically, during the liquid phase you blended everything, then strained. During the pureed phase you still have to blend, but you don't have to strain. Some suggestions would be mashed potatoes, refried beans, chunky soups (blended), SF pudding, I'm sure you get the idea.  I'm not sure which procedure you had done. Which ever one you had, its in the healing process and you wouldn't want to send any big chunks of anything down the tubes. Make sure you chew, chew, then chew some more. I can't stress that enough.  It gets so much easier about 2-3 months out. You start feeling like yourself again and actually are able to eat like a normal person again. Hang in there and keep us posted.

Day of surgery weight  352
Current weight 250 
Total Lost 102
Height 6'3"
BMI 31

Dx E
on 2/15/07 1:46 am - Northern, MS
Here’s what I had in my hard drive- Particularly look at the sample diets near the bottom...from Doc Champion and St. Vincent's... From WLS Wiki online WLS-pedia that I contribute to........ Hope it helps.... (jealous of your woodstove right now...freazzin' off my Azz.......) Best Wishes- Dx -------------------------------------------------------------- The Post-Op Diet- Following bariatric surgery, the typical recommended goal is to develop a balanced diet that optimizes nutrition, stressing Protein, Hydration, Vitamins/minerals and offsetting any possible nutritional deficiencies with vitamin supplements. The goal is to develop a long term eating pattern that provides balanced complete nutrition that provides less calories than are utilized until the patient has lost their excess fat tissue (or a ‘goal percentage’ of that tissue) and can sustain a constant and healthy weight. Such a Bariatric Diet plan is available from the Obesity Action Coalition at- http://www.obesityaction.org/resources/oacnews/oacnews2/nutrition.php Such a long-term "Dietary Lifestyle" however is often developed by first adhering to a diet that allows the surgical trauma and swelling to subside and heal properly without pressure or strain on the healing tissues. This Diet is typically broken down into "Stages" or "Phases." Each bariatric surgeon has their individual recommendation as to what diet is best suited for their patients. Early Post-Op Dietary regimens can range from "Eat what you can tolerate," to elaborately scheduled and measured protocols that dictate times and specific foods that are to be consumed. In general, all of them stress- enough water/fluid to remain thoroughly hydrated, followed by protein and then vitamins. They also typically come with the caveat of- "Do Not Advance Your Diet Until Instructed to do so By YOUR Doctor." These Post-Op Diets, aimed at gradually re-introducing food to the patient, do prevent in many cases vomiting, and stress on the newly Banded, Stapled or Sutured stomachs. They can break into various numbers of "Stages" or "Phases." Most commonly there are 3 to 5 stages. Although some protocols combine Full and Clear Liquids into one phase, and pureed and mushy into a single stage, these are often the descriptions (in order of advancement)- Clear Liquid Die****er, Unsweetened clear juice, Sugar free Jell-O, Sugar Free Popsicles, chicken, beef, or vegetable broth/bullion, and Decaf or herbal teas. Full-Liquid Diet- All foods and drinks from previous stage plus- Skim-Milk, Sugar Free/Low Fat or plain yogurt, (without fruit) Strained Cream Soups, Protein Shakes, Thinned Cream of wheat or cream of rice cereals, No sugar-added applesauce, and Sugar-Free puddings. Puree Diet- All foods and drinks from previous stages plus Low Sugar and low fat foods that have been processed/pureed to the consistency of baby-food or applesauce. Soft Diet- (Mechanically Soft, or mushy) All foods and drinks from previous stages plus very tender meats such as canned tuna fish, low-fat peanut butter, soft cooked to the point of mushy vegetables, Soft fruit, (banana, melon, low sugar or no sugar added canned fruit) eggs, toast, low-fat crackers, Fat-free or low-fat cottage cheese and soft low-fat cheeses, Mashed Potatoes, (without skins) Tofu, etc… Typically- No vegetable skins, Crisp vegetables, Corn, Rice or Soft Bread. Full Diet- All foods and drinks from previous stages plus crisp vegetables, fruits, meats, etc… as tolerated. The emphasis continues to be on Protein, Low-Fat, Low-Sugar, Vitamin rich foods. An example of a typical "3 Stage" Diet for Bariatric Patients is provided online by J. K. Champion, M.D., F.A.C.S. of Atlanta’s Videoscopic Institute of Atlanta, P.C., Bariatric Surgery. (Dr. Champion is one of the three founding officers of the Surgical Review Corporation which was created to establish "Centers of Excellence" in Bariatric Surgery.) http://www.drchampion.com/postop-diet.php St. Vincent's Bariatric Surgery Center (also a Bariatric Surgery ‘Center of Excellence’) offers an extensive "5 Phase" Diet for Bariatric Patients (complete with shopping lists) at- http://www.stvincents.org/healthservices/bariatrics/dietstage.cfm Eventually, sooner for some than others, a balanced, nutritional, healthy dietary intake is the goal. This is the same whether one has a procedure that is more mal-absorptive or only restrictive and not mal-absorptive at all. Healthy, Nourishing, Balanced Diet.

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stock_karr
on 2/15/07 3:28 am - Redwood, NY
thanks for the info it is  very much appreciated. I had the Laproscopic Roux En Y done on  the 8th of this month. I was put on a clear liquid diet for 5-7 days Then on to pureed food.I am also unsure of how much the protein intake should be for day. By the way i have a woodstove and a pellet stove going at the same time!. and its only 84 degrees in here.       Thanks     Tim
HePaid4That
on 2/15/07 3:36 am
Tim, 60-80grams of protein a day is what they want.  This keeps you from losing the lean muscle mass.
TomL
on 2/15/07 8:03 am - Bradford, MA
I am a little ahead of you weeks wise but I am still in my doc's version of stage 2. I can pretty much eat what I can get down besides beef, pork, and lamb.  Hormel turkey chili in a can is pretty good. If you can make it yourself all the better. Try out some cottage cheese with a little lo-fat salad dressing. Fat free refried beans with cheese on them. Yogurt and yogurt smoothies. I am off the eggs. I ate them for like 2 weeks straight and I cannot even look at them. Also try out minestrone soup. Just pick out the pasta and eat the beans and veggies.
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