Well, if I block someone I do not care what they have to say. I felt very offended by being called an ASS by someone because I was only asking for respect! My point is evidenced here! Newbies and those who need to hear the information - good and bad, ignore those posts by those people. What they do not care to hear is their information, as vital as it is, is ignore because it comes with so much negativity! I do not attack people personally, and will not allow someone else to attack me. Wasabubblebutt\midwestergrl/changingforthebetter has been here for a long time and she still doesn't get the message. Approach makes the difference! I do believe bands fail. I believe that is vital information for all of us, not just those who are preop. 

The fact that someone that is blocked, can log out and come back into the forum as a guest or even go as far as re-registering under another user name is just crazy!  

Think about the mentality of a person  who trolls this forum, offends many, gets blocked by many, then decides to re-register with a different  user name all so they can continue to bash the band.....they probably shouldn't have been approved for the band in the first place.  

Crazy!!

I really try not to block; how I can I provide a rational counterpoint if I don't know what the people I disagree with are saying? 

Dev, there is a difference in having an intellectual argument about the lap band effectiveness, its long term longevity and complications...it would BE VERY EDUCATIONAL if those who experienced complications report TRUTHFULLY WHAT and WHY IT HAPPENED...but they are not....I block all people that come here with NO VALUE TO THE BOARD OF WHY THEIR LAP BANDS TRULY FAILED AS THEY SAY....

I don't think it is in anyone's best interest to constantly hear that we are all doomed, being called liars, and personally attacked...I've been personally attacked here MANY TIMES to the point I deactivated my account twice...they post inaccurate info regarding the lap band and we will have eventually have to get our bands removed at 5 years post op and that FDA will recall ALL LAP BANDS ...this is not only harmful to those who have bands that is still working...it can harmful to those who may be naive enough to believe this nonsense and to not get the band and opt for more of a invasive surgery that may really put their long term health at risk.....

Personally I don’t mind the band bashers, as long as they can respect my point of view too. There is one person, who I won’t name unless they want me too, who will give their point of view why the band is a bad choice. That person and I have debated the issue, but always with respect. In fact, this person featured me, and my accomplishment, on their website, even thou they don’t believe in the band. I admire and respect that person.

Now if you bash the band, and then tell the people who disagree to die, I still won’t block them. I will continue to my positive attitude, while they can continue their negative one. Eventually, in the end, we’ll all be found out what type of person we really are.

As for veterans who left because of these folks, PLEASE COME BACK. (1) The newbies need you!! (2) The veterans need you!! (3) I NEED YOU!! (4) You’re allowing the terrorists to win … Your experiences is invaluable to everyone alike!! I could be going through an issue, that a newbie wouldn’t understand, but a veteran would. Plus, while the operation may be similar, the results and experiences may not. I love to learn what works for one may not work for another. That’s how we all learn and become educated. 

You don’t necessarily need to work in the medical field to be knowledgeable in bariatrics. Heck sometimes I know more than my own Bariatric Doctor. He will say, while I know the procedure and the data what may/may not happen, a person who actually lives with the procedure everyday can shed more TRUTHFUL information that what is written.

The BAND FAILING is not a myth. It happens. As I said I know 4 people it happen to, and each and every one of them followed the rules like they were supposed to. It just happened. But that doesn’t mean ALL BANDS will fail. Heck, I have a Toyota. A few years ago, there were recalls on Toyota because some sped up on their own. Does that mean ALL Toyotas will? NO!! But ask one of the former owners it happened it, and I bet from their experiences they would never own or promote a Toyota. But I am happy to say mine, SO FAR, is working flawlessly. Can I guarantee I can say the same thing in a hour, NO!! But for now, MY EXPERIENCE shows it’s safe.

OK, let me get back to work.

 

 

 

 
Tom we often disagree.................but I stil love ya. ;-)

So for those of you that are not that familiar with Tom, here is his story again:

Meet Tom: A 3 Year Realize Band WLS Success Story!

Tom from ObesityHelp.com has had awesome WLS success with his Realize Band!
Here’s his story………..

 

I just began my 3^rd year as a Realize Band patient; I cannot express how grateful I am that I decided to do this procedure. I think back to where I was over 3 years ago to where I am now, and all the GAINS I obtained while I lost weight, and I am humbled. And I would love to share some reflections.

In 2007 I was was over 400 pounds (435 prior to the operation). The person who was once the life of the party was quickly becoming agoraphobic. For about 2 to 3 years prior I stopped interacting with friends; I stopped going to my favorite vacation spot; I stopped going celebrations. Every day life was becoming more and more difficult. I had difficulties doing my daily work tasks. I need to take frequent breaks from walking. Walking up and down stairs was not only difficult, but painful. Getting into and out of my Honda Civic was a chore. Not to mention my stomach resting on the steering wheel, and my seatbelt “just barely" fitting. And “hygiene" was beginning to be difficult.

My health wasn’t getting any better. I had hypertension; high blood pressure; high cholesterol. I was on the following Medication

Diovan HCT    160 / 25 mg for High Blood Pressure
Lipitor 20 mg for High Cholesterol
Coreg / Norvasc 20 mg for Hypertension
Carvedilol 12.5 mg for Beta Blocker

Secretly all I wanted to do was die.

In the summer of 2007, my doctor said that I really should think about doing something surgical. She stated I am young enough and healthy enough to do itNOW, but who knows what the next year may bring. She also said if I don’t do something, there is no guarantee I will be around for the next 3 years. Therefore, that’s when I decided to seriously consider weight loss surgery.

The question was: “who should do it"? After interviewing approximately 15 strangers (they were basically friends of friends), and on-line checking, I decided to go with Advance Laparoscopic Surgeons, located in Florham Park, New Jersey. In all my research (on line, and word of mouth) Dr. Abkin’s (and his partner Dr. Bertha’s) names were always regarded very highly in the field. On October 24, 2007, I went to their seminar at the Parsippany Tara Hotel. What I really liked about Dr. Abkin was his straightforward honesty. He listened to what I had to say, and respected the surgery I wanted. He never talked me into one procedure or the other – unlike other Doctors from other practices I met with where trying to do.

Come mid-November (2007) I had “all my ducks in a row", and was ready to have the operation. I could have had it in either November or December, but I decided to wait until after the “New Year" – because I thought I would be in too much pain to enjoy the holidays. If I knew then, what I know now – I would have had the operation in November.

I had the Realize band operation on January 29, 2008 at Saint Peters Hospital, in New Brunswick. I arrived at the hospital at 7:00 a.m. for my 9:00 a.m. surgery. I was wheeled into the operating room about 8:45 a.m., in the capable hands of Doctor Abkin. Who would have known that the “old me" would have “died" at the moment I was wheeled out of the waiting area, and the “new me" would be “born" in the operating room about 30 minutes later.

I was in and out surgery in about 45 minutes (no complications). When I awoke I felt nauseous, and I had dry mouth because of the anesthesia. I had this feeling for about 2 – 3 hours, and all I wanted to do was sleep some more. Since I never had anesthesia before, so I didn’t know what to expect, but I hear this is quite common.

I was in recovery from 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. I was home by 3:00 p.m., and I rested for most of the day. The only discomfort I experienced was a feeling that I could only equate to when someone does a lot of sit-ups, and an inner chest pain (which I later realized was caused by the intubation). No other pain.

The next day I still had the “sit-up discomfort", and chest irritation, but felt relatively normal. By the 2^nd day after the operation, I was back to normal. If I wanted to I could have gone back to work, but I decided to stay home because I had vacation time coming to me.

On the 3^rd day I started my “semi-solid" (soft/puree) food intake. I had no problem swallowing or keeping anything down. However, I followed all the eating directions verbatim. I did not deviate from the recommendations. By the 4^th day, I noticed I have not had any hunger pangs since before the operation. I also realized any “hunger" I did feel, quickly disappeared when I drank something. It was a wonderful feeling, and is an experience that I still have.

Since the operation, I realized (no pun intended) I have not had any hunger pangs that I used to experience before the Realize band. It gets to the point that I have to “force" myself to eat, because I do not feel hungry. I also realized any “hunger" I did feel, would quickly disappeared when I drank something. It was a wonderful feeling, and is an experience I never thought was possible. It’s an experience that I still have.

WEIGHT LOSS JOURNEY:

Some have called my weight loss remarkable. On my two-week review, I lost 17pounds. On my one-month review, I lost an additional 30 pounds, for a total of 47pounds. On my three-month review, I lost an additional 28 pounds. On May 21, I weighed myself and lost another 5+ pound. On July 11 weigh-in, I lost a total of 100 pounds. On February 28 (2009), I lost a total of 150 pounds.

 

In January 2010 (2 years after the operation) I was down about 190 pounds (245 pound). For one most of the year (2010) I then yo-yoed with 5 pounds (between 245 and 250). Then between Thanksgiving and New Years Eve, I ate more then I should have," and gained weight. I am not sure how much, but I needed to tell myself it was close to 15 pounds because my “loose pants" were not tight. I stopped and reflected what I did the entire year, and why I didn’t lose any more weight. I realized that I wasn’t following the plan like I should, and I was reaping what I sowed as I “tested the waters". I also decided my newest immediate goal would to be around 232 by the end of the year, because that’s when I officially go from “obese" to “overweight".

 

So on January 3 (2011) I decided it was time to get back to the basics. I pretended I just had the operation, and started eating in “stages". I went through all three stages, staying on each stage for two weeks. On January 29, 2011 (exactly 3 years), I back down to around 245 (where I was the year before).  On February 28, 2011, I weighed myself and I was down to 228 pounds. Not only was I officially considered “overweight", but I was also in the 220’s. My ultimate goal was 220 pound, and I finally realized this goal was reachable. On March 29, I weighed myself and I happy to report I am 220 3/4pounds. I was right at the door-step of my ultimate goal. Now that I am here, my newest goal is to be 217 pounds, so this way I would have lost half the amount of weight I started with. If I can get to that, then I want to go to 210 pounds – then stop.

 

LIFE AFTERWARDS

Since the operation, I consider myself an “unofficial" walking testimonial commercial for the Realize Gastric Banding procedure. I speak to anyone who is willing to listen, and even to those who don’t  !! I tell everyone about it, and I highly recommend this operation to anyone who asks about Bariatric Weight Loss surgery. I always reinforce that the decision is a personal one, and I would never sway a person one-way or the other which operation to have. The bottom line is to lose weight.

Over the past three years, I have come to realize many things. The one thing, life is a rollercoaster ride. There will be highs and lows, but the ride itself will be exhilarating.

There are times when I “slip" during my journey. What I do during those slips is very important. I need to remind myself to get up, dust myself off, and continue down the road. I can’t let those slips derail me. Using a military analogy: In my “past life" I would see a weight gain as a ‘defeat’, and decide that since I already ‘lost this battle" I might as well “lose the war"; admit defeat, and eat uncontrollably. Now days, I realize I haven’t “lost the battle", but I had a “minor skirmish setback". I regroup, with help of the troops (folks on the board and/or support groups); I get the weapons and/or artillery (proper foods) I need and go an try to conqueror my foe. I also stop and realize I have won more battles then lost, and I see eventual victory on the horizon.   I stop and become accountable for my digressions. I then go back to the basics, and try losing that temporary weight gain. I remind myself that this is how naturally skinny (what we perceive as normal) people deal with this weight their entire lives. HOW they react to it is what makes us different.

I remember, this isn’t a race. “Slow and steady wins the race".  We are a generation of instantaneous results, however remember we didn’t put all the weight on at once, it took years. So don’t you think losing it would take just as long? This isn’t one of those miracle instantaneous weight loss programs. We all know types of programs always fail. This is a way of life. Nowhere does any of the literate state you will lose x amount of weight in x days. I think LONG TERM. If it take me 5 – 10 – 15 years to get to my-self imposed weight goals, WHO CARES!!! How long did it take to put on all those pounds?  And if I never get to those number either, I am fine. As long, as don’t end up where I began.

I AM GAINING:

The other thing I realized is that when it comes to WLS, no one prepares you for these gains. There have been many other milestones along the way besides the “weight loss" factor. I love to call these milestones “MY GAINS"!! It might sound funny, but everyday I stop and thank God that I am a loser and gainer. I am “a loser" because of my weight loss, and I am “a gainer" because I have gotten my life back!!

The main gain is that I have gained my self confidence, and I am again interacting with friends/family. And I have become the person who is “life of the party".

I have also gained a wonderful bariatric family. These people are as important as my regular family. They help me along my journey, and give me the guidance and support I need, along with the love and understanding.
I have gained a special lady in my life. I never realized how empty my life was until I met her and her family.

I have gained my desire to live. Not just live longer, but to LIVE. To accept and enjoy everything in life, even if a problem occurs. I know that these stumbling blocks will be a learning experience, and I need to be grateful for them.

I have also gained new “goals" in life. The most recent one, is running. This is from a man who wouldn’t run to the bathroom. My goal is to run a marathon. Like with my weight loss goal, if I ever obtain the ultimate goal doesn’t really matter. What matters is that I have a goal, and I work every day at it. I realize there is no failure in not succeeding. The only failure is not trying.  On Thanksgiving day I ran my first 5K. On April 20^th (2011) I did a 10K. My next goal is to run a mini-marathon the weekend of my Birthday (July 25^th).

 

Sometimes it’s a bit overwhelming. I stop and think, “What did I do to deserve this?"

I must thank the following

My Family Doctor for being truthful enough to tell me either do it now, or you may not be around.

Doctor Abkin, the surgeon who was honest enough to tell me what I could expect with the band, and skilled enough to do a flawless procedure.

The various Nutritionists who lead the support groups I attend, and who answer any of my questions without hesitation.

My bariatric siblings. It doesn’t matter which type of operation we had, we are helping each obtain our ultimate goal.

My family and friends who have supported me throughout my entire life, and have all supported my decision to get myself healthier.

Ok, I am done. Thank you for taking time out and reading this.

Maria,

It is this exact reason why I love you too, and will defend you until the end of time!!!

I don't care who blocks me. I sign out every night and in the morning, I read everything, anyway.  There are quite a few here who have me blocked... and quite often, I feel as if I should thank them for the gift.

You know what I don't get, though?  The fact that people who have "left" have the time to come back and post on threads that are all drama-filled, but can't be bothered to help someone who has an actual complication and NEEDS support and information.

THAT is what I don't understand. It's SO bad here that they simply can't stand to "hang out" for even a minute... UNTIL there is mega-drama... then they muster up the 'courage' to come and express their displeasure.  Meanwhile, there's a legitimate thread where a fellow bandster needs assistance... and it just sits there.  I'm not talking about any one person in particular... but it's something I've noticed over the years.  I've noticed it on other boards, as well. Sooooo... I think it's probably here to stay... the soap opera of Life.

 Nic, I have made no secret of the fact that I have not deactivated and that I regularly look in to answer queries by PM.  I very rarely post on the board because whenever I do, even when I posted for my sixth anniversary, I get criticised. I see no need to expose myself to that! I am perfectly able to defend myself, know that there is no point in allowing strangers to upset me, but I really don't like it!

I think it is very possible other vets do the same. In fact, several have told me they do! Look in, respond by PM.

Kate

THIS is what I'm talking about...


http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/lapband/4534233/Dissapoint ed-with-the-Message-Board-nothing-seems-to-change/


EVERY week there is someone who "has been away" for yada yada reasons... BUT, they just feel COMPELLED to come back WHILE there's "drama" to let everyone know just how disappointing it is to them. You know, even though, they're not actually HERE supporting or interacting with anyone.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS. If you want the board to BE a certain way, MAKE it a certain way. Don't just come back and tell the people who post here consistently that they stink.

This is not directed at anyone personally... and I also have absolutely nothing against the nice (I'm assuming... I don't know her) woman whose thread I linked. I just am using it as a case in point kind of thing.  Maybe she'll even be able to enlighten me as to why she felt NOW was the best time to jump into the fray, who knows?

I get PMs all the time from people who are having complications but don't want to share it on this board. They know that they'll get the, "What did you do wrong?" accusation. A forum is ONLY as good as the people who post on it. If no one trusts or communicates with one another, it's bound to be a useless board. If people fear being kicked while they're down, it's NOT a supportive board.  If people who have had or are going through complications don't feel free or welcome to post, it's also a very useless board.

Sooo,people can either hang out, make it the way they want to be or disappear and have no reason to complain when they come back and the board isn't the way they want it to be, in my opinion.