Band Bashing, really?
After I came out of the operating room, in agony, seriously, in absolutely the worst pain I've ever felt in my life, he pinned me down on a table, shoved an Ng tube up my nose without lubrication, tearing my nostril, and spit in my face while doing it. He said, "I'm putting an Ng tube in, it's gonna hurt and you're NOT gonna like it." And then he noticed that I also got my period during all this. (I was in so much pain and begging him to help me that my period was the least of my worries, honestly.) He looked at me, all disgusted, parked me in a hallway of the hospital to sit and bleed from my nose and my vagina... and a nurse found me and took me to my room. She was horrified and kept apologizing profusely to me.
I don't remember the ride home. I couldn't hold my head up at all. All I remember is my head hitting the window of the car every time I'd pass out from pain. I don't remember the first week or so after banding. I crawled to the bathroom, I cried morning, noon and night. I had the stabbing left shoulder pain as well as severe abdominal pain, nonstop.
For months, I begged my surgeon to help me. I had such immense, horrible pain, I didn't know what to do with myself. The last straw was the day my friend drove me to my appointment and sat with me in the doctor's office. The surgeon was extremely irritated she was with me and asked WHY I brought her along. I told him that I was in too much pain to even think straight, much less drive. He sat with his arms crossed, glaring at us both. I asked him yet again to help me. I hadn't had a bowel movement in close to 2 weeks, seriously. I could barely stand at that point. And he told me to "get a hobby." That I was "too attached to this pain," whatever that's supposed to mean. I fired him and found a doctor who was a pioneer in the field of bariatrics (Dr. Santiago Horgan, who saved my life. He and his fellow, Dr. Michael Baptista were a godsend.)
He did a fluoroscopy Xray and said, verbatim, "What the **** did they DO to you?!" He told me I was about a day from dying and he needed to operate immediately. My stomach had twisted into a Figure 8, my intestines were kinked, I was full of **** and I had JUST been in my "surgeon's" office days earlier... and he did NOTHING. It took a 5 minute fluoroscopy to show what was wrong with me. I wasted months of my life asking-no, BEGGING- Kemmerling to help me. I think he simply wanted me to "go away." Because God knows, he certainly didn't lift a finger to actually HELP.
Who knows... maybe I'd have had a better banding experience if I'd chosen a different surgeon. It couldn't have been much worse or I wouldn't be alive today.
Avoid kemmerling, Green Bay, WI
After I came out of the operating room, in agony, seriously, in absolutely the worst pain I've ever felt in my life, he pinned me down on a table, shoved an Ng tube up my nose without lubrication, tearing my nostril, and spit in my face while doing it. He said, "I'm putting an Ng tube in, it's gonna hurt and you're NOT gonna like it." And then he noticed that I also got my period during all this. (I was in so much pain and begging him to help me that my period was the least of my worries, honestly.) He looked at me, all disgusted, parked me in a hallway of the hospital to sit and bleed from my nose and my vagina... and a nurse found me and took me to my room. She was horrified and kept apologizing profusely to me.
I don't remember the ride home. I couldn't hold my head up at all. All I remember is my head hitting the window of the car every time I'd pass out from pain. I don't remember the first week or so after banding. I crawled to the bathroom, I cried morning, noon and night. I had the stabbing left shoulder pain as well as severe abdominal pain, nonstop.
For months, I begged my surgeon to help me. I had such immense, horrible pain, I didn't know what to do with myself. The last straw was the day my friend drove me to my appointment and sat with me in the doctor's office. The surgeon was extremely irritated she was with me and asked WHY I brought her along. I told him that I was in too much pain to even think straight, much less drive. He sat with his arms crossed, glaring at us both. I asked him yet again to help me. I hadn't had a bowel movement in close to 2 weeks, seriously. I could barely stand at that point. And he told me to "get a hobby." That I was "too attached to this pain," whatever that's supposed to mean. I fired him and found a doctor who was a pioneer in the field of bariatrics (Dr. Santiago Horgan, who saved my life. He and his fellow, Dr. Michael Baptista were a godsend.)
He did a fluoroscopy Xray and said, verbatim, "What the **** did they DO to you?!" He told me I was about a day from dying and he needed to operate immediately. My stomach had twisted into a Figure 8, my intestines were kinked, I was full of **** and I had JUST been in my "surgeon's" office days earlier... and he did NOTHING. It took a 5 minute fluoroscopy to show what was wrong with me. I wasted months of my life asking-no, BEGGING- Kemmerling to help me. I think he simply wanted me to "go away." Because God knows, he certainly didn't lift a finger to actually HELP.
Who knows... maybe I'd have had a better banding experience if I'd chosen a different surgeon. It couldn't have been much worse or I wouldn't be alive today.
I contacted numerous attorneys. And you know what no one tells you, but it's important to know? Surgeons have all the protection in the world. They have medical malpractice insurance, they make more money... therefore, if you're not independently wealthy, you're kinda screwed. I had 2 expert witnesses willing to testify. They were disgusted completely by the first surgeon. BUT, in order to file a suit, I needed roughly $12,000. Up front. And I didn't have it. I tried to save it, but you know how THAT goes when you're already behind in everything. I was truly just worn out down to my soul after all this. And I had planned to keep fighting and I just couldn't do it anymore. So, Dr. Dread continues on his merry way, no one's the wiser about what he's really like... and I'm here, alive (and happy about it)... but still a little pissed about the injustice of it.
I do believe that what goes around comes around, however.
Thank you for your kindness.
Avoid kemmerling, Green Bay, WI
We are both doing well, I have lost 64 pounds and he has lost 92 pounds so far.
Has it taken alot of work? Yes.
We both joined Weigh****chers the end of November 2011 and we both exercise at least 5 times a week.
We have friends and family who have had lap-band and gastric bypass surgery.
And they all say that no matter type of WLS you have it takes commitment and work.
WLS is not a quick fix, it is a tool to help with weight loss.
I did alot of research before making the decision to have WLS and I have also heard horror stories about both lap-band and gastric bypass, the reason we opted for lap-band was because if something went wrong it could be reversed.
So, it does take alot of work and patience, we are still in the process of seeing our surgeon every six weeks for fills and follow ups until we reach that "green zone".
All I can say is WLS is not a cure for obesity, it is a tool.
on 5/11/12 6:00 am - Canada
First of all, we had a great surgeon, he was very upfront about the risks, benefits, etc. His receptionist also had the surgery and is almost 2 years out and has lost over 115 pounds.
She has been a wealth of information for us as well!
We also had to go thru 6 weeks of tests, nutrition and exercise counseling and had to be on the OptiFast diet 2 weeks pre-surgery.
Both myself and my husband are still able to eat most foods.
I have the most difficulty with doughy bread, chicken breast and white sticky rice.
So, I have my bread toasted, eat dark meat poultry and minute rice or brown rice.
Thankfully we have had no problems with veggies raw or cooked!
And yes, we have been doing it on our own with Weigh****cher's and exercise, all the band has done is prevent us from over eating.
Weigh****cher's is keeping us eating healthy and quite honestly, my biggest motivation for exercise is to try to avoid too much loose skin!
I am hoping that things continue to go well for us.
Prior to surgery my husband almost lost his left leg below the knee due to diabetic complications and his A1C was through the roof, I have asthma and type 2 diabetes, since surgery our health has improved dramatically.
My heart really goes out to those of you who are having difficulties.
I know 5 people who have had the gastric bypass and 3 of them are having alot of medical problems post surgery, I know 3 people who have had the lap-band, 2 have done great and have both lost over 100 pounds, the third still can't control her eating and has lost 55 pounds and has gained it all back due to snacking all day
So, as I said in an earlier post, for myself and my husband it is just a tool to help us stick to a good weight loss plan and exercise program, not a quick fix.
Here's some good advice, blaming someone for their band problem...who would do this? My Response: Sorry to hear about your dilation...but weren't you WARNED on this board about being too tight too long? This is not a told you so response...but this is nothing new....LONG TERM PROBLEMS CAN BE AVOIDED....Remember many vets used to preach the dangers of keeping TOO TIGHT FILL FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME? and the discussion used to be talked about constantly on THIS BOARD...did you listen to other veteran bandsters? I DID..and I don't have any problems with my esophagus. Your surgeon don't know how tight your band is...and ONLY believe what YOU TELL THEM....your surgeon may have been extremely qualified but if you tell him you can eat solid food with no problems and don't vomit often, they usually believe you, even if your band is too tight...fluro don't always pick up too tight fills either....it's up to YOU ....there are charts of proper fill levels any time you start experiencing frequent adverse symptoms you have to report it to your surgeon before it's too late and damage is done. Lap Band * 9/30/2005 * 4cc 10ml band, currently 2.6cc of saline, lost 130 pounds. To date, no hospitalizations or major complications, still have all original parts. I am grateful for my health. |
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I truly wish the people posting here would have been here posting when I was researching.
My Doc doing the Pych Elav sent me to OH and another site to research and get info from those that had already been there done that. 99% of what I read here was sunshine and roses. I really could have used sound real expectations.
I am willing to talk with any one that would like to hear it. I wouldn't tell you just what you want to hear. I had many people contact me and a couple other banders when I was going thru the process. I can't find the others here now, I know one has been un-banded.
I asked the NP at my center yesterday, a center of excellence, how many banders had succeeded. First she asked me what I meant by success. My terms where at least three year out and still banded with some lose. She said at least 50% where unbanded by three years and of the 50% still banded many aren’t yet to 3 years. She couldn’t say if any of those still banded where having issues or any weight loss.I asked why they are still banding than. She said there are people that don’t want to commit to any permanent change to the body and want the option to reverse. I asked how you can do a total reversal if the band causes permanent damage. She shrugged, she sees it all but, nobody is going to listen to just a nurse.