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(deactivated member)
on 5/9/12 11:05 am
RNY on 06/20/12
Hi just wanted to asked some Q's i will be going for my appointment to the Dr. on Tuesday for the Lap- Band. any suggestion. i wont know when the surgery date will be yet.  Reason  for this is cause i can't do a lot of exercise. i have had 5 knee replacements. don't have a lot of musscle tone in left knee. degenrative Arthirits. and Diabetic type 2 but doing good with  it at normal A1C but need to lose 80lbs cause the weight is hurting my back,knees.


cheyenne000
on 5/9/12 12:42 pm
VSG on 03/25/16
Welcome Wanda, I would do your research on the band. I myself have not been able to lose any weight with out being able to exercise. when I was having trouble with my band and was not able to exercise I gained 20 pounds back. Exercise plays a big part in this for me to be successful.

Lapband - Jan 2009 weight goal reached with lapband. Revised to VSG- 1/25/16

Hislady
on 5/10/12 2:27 am - Vancouver, WA
Oh please reconsider the band because as the OP said if you can't exercise you will find it impossible to lose any substantial amount of weight. I followed every rule to the letter except the exercise because like you I have serious arthritis and I only lost 20-25 lbs the first year and that was it. I was told I'd have to lose just by virtue of having a smaller stomach but that doesn't hold true if you can't exercise in addition. Please look at other surgery options like the VSG or even the RNY or DS because I learned that I should have had a malabsorbtive surgery because of my limited exercise. All the band does is choke you and make you spit up if it's too tight and let's you eat all you want if too loose and it's rare that a person can find the illusive "sweet spot". I want you to succeed so please study up on all your options. The lap band is the least effective of all the weight loss surgeries.
Iam_with_the_Band
on 5/9/12 10:13 pm
 Wanda, I have been very successful for over 4 years with my band. I work nights and do not have a lot of time for exercising. It hasn't been easy but it also has not been that difficult! A lot of eating is head hunger. I have had no unfills and no complications.

12/09 and 6/11, 9 skin removal procedures with Dr. Sauceda in Monterrey Mexico
Revised to the Sleeve after losing 271 lbs with the LapBand. 

Dev *.
on 5/9/12 11:58 pm - Austin, TX
The exercise vs. no exercise issue is going to be different for everyone because we all have different metabolic issues. That said, exercise certainly helps because, beyond burning a few extra calories, it can also help ameliorate the effect of ones metabolism slowing due to weight loss (especially strength training because it builds lean muscle mass, which burns more calories.) Are there forms of exercise you CAN do? Water aerobics, for example? Swimming?Core work to strengthen your back and abdomen?
If you only need to lose 80 lbs to get to a "normal" weight, I'd be pretty reluctant to look at RNY. What kind of eater are you? Do you have a sweet tooth or a problem with eating large volumes?

Banded 03/22/06  276/261/184 (highest/surgery/lowest)

Sleeved 07/11/2013  228/165 (surgery/current) (111lbs lost)

Mom to two of the cutest boys on earth.

(deactivated member)
on 5/10/12 1:45 am
RNY on 06/20/12
Hi all thanks so much for the Encouragement. I really appreciate the comments.I know that you have to take the good with the bad. cause if everyone had good results. we all would be doing it. but like for one i know that its going to take work and I'm not afraid to do that. will keep u guys posted on the office visit. It will be Tuesday 15th. another good thing is that Me and hubby just moved back in our new House in Feb. the old house was messed up by the April 27th Tornado. It feels so good to be home again. Dev congrats on the baby.
cheyenne000
on 5/10/12 3:11 am
VSG on 03/25/16

Congrats on geting in to your new  house, do keep us posted on how you are doing. If you have any questions there are people that are willing to help. You can always send a message if you do not want to start a new thread. Good luck on what ever you choose

Lapband - Jan 2009 weight goal reached with lapband. Revised to VSG- 1/25/16

MARIA F.
on 5/10/12 7:57 am - Athens, GA
(deactivated member)
on 5/10/12 8:43 am - Califreakinfornia , CA
On May 9, 2012 at 6:05 PM Pacific Time, wanda H. wrote:
Hi just wanted to asked some Q's i will be going for my appointment to the Dr. on Tuesday for the Lap- Band. any suggestion. i wont know when the surgery date will be yet.  Reason  for this is cause i can't do a lot of exercise. i have had 5 knee replacements. don't have a lot of musscle tone in left knee. degenrative Arthirits. and Diabetic type 2 but doing good with  it at normal A1C but need to lose 80lbs cause the weight is hurting my back,knees.


Lap Band +  NSAID usage = EXTREME PAIN for the rest of your life. If you don't already know this then you are ill prepared for your consultation.

Risk Information

What are the general risks?*

Using the LAP-BAND® System includes the same risks that come with all major surgeries. There are also added risks in any operation for patients who are seriously overweight. You should know that death is one of the risks. It can occur any time during the operation. It can also occur as a result of the operation. Death can occur despite all the precautions that are taken. There is a risk of gastric perforation (a tear in the stomach wall) during or after the procedure that might lead to the need for another surgery. In the U.S. clinical study this happened in 1% of the patients. There were no deaths during or immediately after surgery in the U.S. study. Your age can increase your risk from surgery. So can excess weight. Certain diseases, whether they were caused by obesity or not, can increase your risk from surgery. There are also risks that come with the medications and the methods used in the surgical procedure. You also have risks that come from how your body responds to any foreign object implanted in it. Published results from past surgeries, however, indicate that LAP-BAND® System surgery may have fewer risks than other surgical treatments for obesity.1,2

Patients can experience complications after surgery. Most complications are not serious but some may require hospitalization and/or re-operation. In the United States clinical study, with 3-year follow-up reported, 88% of the 299 patients had one or more adverse events, ranging from mild, moderate, to severe. Nausea and vomiting (51%), gastroesophageal reflux (regurgitation) (34%), band slippage/pouch dilatation (24%) and stoma obstruction (stomach-band outlet blockage) (14%) were the most common post-operative complications. In the study, 25% of the patients had their band systems removed, two-thirds of which were following adverse events. Esophageal dilatation or dysmotility (poor esophageal function****urred in 11% of patients, the long-term effects of which are currently unknown. Constipation, diarrhea and dysphagia (difficulty swallowing****urred in 9% of the patients. In 9% of the patients, a second surgery was needed to fix a problem with the band or initial surgery. In 9% of the patients, there was an additional procedure to fix a leaking or twisted access port. The access port design has been improved. Four out of 299 patients (1.3%) had their bands erode into their stomachs. These bands needed to be removed in a second operation. Surgical techniques have evolved to reduce slippage. Surgeons with more laparoscopic experience and more experience with these procedures report fewer complications.

The following are " considered " non serious, but I assure they are extremely painful, and life altering when you suffer from them on a daily basis.

Adverse events that were considered to be non-serious, and which occurred in less than 1% of the patients, included: esophagitis (inflammation of the esophagus), gastritis (inflammation of the stomach), hiatal hernia (some stomach above the diaphragm), pancreatitis (inflammation of the pancreas), abdominal pain, hernia, incisional hernia, infection, redundant skin, dehydration, diarrhea (frequent semi-solid bowel movements), abnormal stools, constipation, flatulence (gas), dyspepsia (upset stomach), eructation (belching), cardiospasm (an obstruction of passage of food through the bottom of the esophagus), hematemsis (vomiting of blood), asthenia (fatigue), fever, chest pain, incision pain, contact dermatitis (rash), abnormal healing, edema (swelling), paresthesia (abnormal sensation of burning, *****ly, or tingling), dysmenorrhea (difficult periods), hypochromic anemia (low oxygen carrying part of blood), band system leak, cholecystitis (gall stones), esophageal ulcer (sore), port displacement, port site pain, spleen injury, and wound infection. Be sure to ask your surgeon about these possible complications and any of these medical terms that you don't understand.

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What are the specific risks and possible complications?

Talk to your doctor about all of the following VERY COMMON risks and complications:

  • Ulceration
  • Gastritis (irritated stomach tissue)
  • Gastroesophageal reflux (regurgitation)
  • Heartburn
  • Gas bloat
  • Dysphagia (difficulty swallowing)
  • Dehydration
  • Constipation
  • Weight regain
  • Death (Not that common but it does occur).

Laparoscopic surgery has its own set of possible problems. They include:

  • Spleen or liver damage (sometimes requiring spleen removal)
  • Damage to major blood vessels
  • Lung problems
  • Thrombosis (blood clots)
  • Rupture of the wound
  • Perforation of the stomach or esophagus during surgery

Laparoscopic surgery is not always possible. The surgeon may need to switch to an "open" method due to some of the reasons mentioned here. This happened in about 5% of the cases in the U.S. Clinical Study.

There are also problems that can occur that are directly related to the LAP-BAND® System:

  • The band can spontaneously deflate because of leakage. That leakage can come from the band, the reservoir, or the tubing that connects them.
  • The band can slip COMMON
  • There can be stomach slippage COMMON
  • The stomach pouch can enlarge COMMON
  • The stoma (stomach outlet) can be blocked COMMON
  • The band can erode into the stomach COMMON

Obstruction of the stomach can be caused by:

  • Food
  • Swelling
  • Improper placement of the band
  • The band being over-inflated
  • Band or stomach slippage
  • Stomach pouch twisting
  • Stomach pouch enlargement

There have been some reports that the esophagus has stretched or dilated in some patients.COMMON COMMON COMMON COMMON This could be caused by:

  • Improper placement of the band
  • The band being tightened too much
  • Stoma obstruction
  • Binge eating
  • Excessive vomiting COMMON COMMON COMMON COMMON

Patients with a weaker esophagus may be more likely to have this problem. A weaker esophagus is one that is not good at pushing food through to your stomach. Tell your surgeon if you have difficulty swallowing. Then your surgeon can evaluate this.

Weight loss with the LAP-BAND® System is typically slower and more gradual than with some other weight loss surgeries. Tightening the band too fast or too much to try to speed up weight loss should be avoided. The stomach pouch and/or esophagus can become enlarged as a result. You need to learn how to use your band as a tool that can help you reduce the amount you eat.

Infection is possible. Also, the band can erode into the stomach. This can happen right after surgery or years later, although this rarely happens.( BULL SPIT )

Complications can cause reduced weight loss. They can also cause weight gain. Other complications can result that require more surgery to remove, reposition, or replace the band.

Some patients have more nausea and vomiting than others. COMMON  COMMON  COMMON   You should see your physician at once if vomiting persists.

Rapid weight loss may lead to symptoms of:

  • Malnutrition COMMON
  • Anemia COMMON
  • Related complicationsCOMMON

It is possible you may not lose much weight or any weight at all.  COMMON You could also have complications related to obesity.

If any complications occur, you may need to stay in the hospital longer. You may also need to return to the hospital later. A number of less serious complications can also occur. These may have little effect on how long it takes you to recover from surgery.

If you have existing problems, such as diabetes, a large hiatal hernia (part of the stomach in the chest cavity), Barretts esophagus (severe, chronic inflammation of the lower esophagus), or emotional or psychological problems, you may have more complications. Your surgeon will consider how bad your symptoms are, and if you are a good candidate for the LAP-BAND® System surgery. You also have more risk of complications if you've had a surgery before in the same area. If the procedure is not done laparoscopically by an experienced surgeon, you may have more risk of complications.

Anti-inflammatory drugs that may irritate the stomach, such as aspirin and NSAIDs, should be used with caution. These should NEVER be used or you will end up with gastritis (inflammation of the stomach) and it is life altering pain.

Some people need folate and vitamin B12 supplements to maintain normal homocycteine levels. Elevated homocycteine levels can increase risks to your heart and the risk of spinal birth defects.

You can develop gallstones after a rapid weight loss. This can make it necessary to remove your gallbladder.

There have been no reports of autoimmune disease with the use of the LAP-BAND® System. Except that there are more and more of us being diagnosed with POST LAP BAND FIBROMYALGIA. Autoimmune diseases and connective tissue disorders, though, have been reported after long-term implantation of other silicone devices. These problems can include systemic lupus erythematosus and scleroderma. At this time, there is no conclusive clinical evidence that supports a relationship between connective-tissue disorders and silicone implants. There is no evidence because there is no mandatory reporting of post op Lap Band complications. Long-term studies to further evaluate this possibility are still being done. You should know, though, that if autoimmune symptoms develop after the band is in place, you may need treatment. The band may also need to be removed. Talk with your surgeon about this possibility. Also, if you have symptoms of autoimmune disease now, the LAP-BAND® System may not be right for you. Keep in mind that since there is no mandatory reporting of post Lap Band complications, all the stats are actually MUCH MUCH higher then reported.

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Removing the LAP-BAND® System

If the LAP-BAND® System has been placed laparoscopically, it may be possible to remove it the same way. This is an advantage of the LAP-BAND® System. However, an "open" procedure may be necessary to remove a band. In the U.S. Clinical Study, 60% of the bands that were removed were done laparoscopically. Surgeons report that after the band is removed, the stomach returns to essentially a normal state. This is an outrageous LIE !

At this time, there are no known reasons to suggest that the band should be replaced or removed at some point unless a complication occurs or you do not lose weight. It is difficult, though, to say whether the band will stay in place for the rest of your life. It may need to be removed or replaced at some point. Removing the device requires a surgical procedure. That procedure will have all the related risks and possible complications that come with surgery. The risk of some complications, such as erosions and infection, increase with any added procedure.

*SAGES/ASBS Guidelines for Laparoscopic and Conventional Surgical Treatment of Morbid Obesity. American Society for Bariatric Surgery.
http://www.sages.org/publication/id/30/

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Indications*

The LAP-BAND® System may be right for you if:

  • You are an adult (at least 18 years old).
  • You are at least 30 pounds overweight ( This just kinda says it all ) with a Body mass Index (BMI) of at least 30 kg/m2 with one or more obesity related comorbid conditions or a Body Mass Index (BMI) of at least 40 kg/m2.
  • You have been overweight for more than 5 years.
  • Your serious attempts to lose weight have had only short-term success.
  • You do not have any other disease that may have caused you to be overweight.
  • You are prepared to make major changes in your eating habits and lifestyle.
  • You are willing to continue working with the specialist who is treating you.
  • You do not drink alcohol in excess.

Your surgeon may consider whether the LAP-BAND® is right for you if your BMI is between 30 and 40 and you have a health problem that is related to obesity. Your surgeon may also have other criteria he or she uses. Ask him or her to discuss those criteria with you.

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Contraindications

The LAP-BAND® System is not right for you if:

  • You have an inflammatory disease or condition of the gastrointestinal tract, such as ulcers, severe esophagitis, or Crohns disease.Generally you end up with one of these AFTER you've been banded.
  • You have severe heart or lung disease that makes you a poor candidate for any surgery.
  • You have some other disease that makes you a poor candidate for any surgery.
  • You have a problem that could cause bleeding in the esophagus or stomach. That might include esophageal or gastric varices (a dilated vein). It might also be something such as congenital or acquired intestinal telangiectasia (dilation of a small blood vessel).
  • You have portal hypertension.
  • Your esophagus, stomach, or intestine is not normal (congenital or acquired). For instance, you might have a narrowed opening.GET TESTED !
  • You have/experienced an intra-operative gastric injury, such as a gastric perforation at or near the location of the intended band placement.
  • You have cirrhosis.
  • You have chronic pancreatitis.
  • You are pregnant. (If you become pregnant after the LAP-BAND® System has been placed, the band may need to be deflated. The same is true if you need more nutrition for any other reason, such as becoming seriously ill. In rare cases, removal may be needed.)
  • You are addicted to alcohol or drugs.
  • You are under 18 years of age.
  • You have an infection anywhere in your body or one that could contaminate the surgical area.
  • You are on chronic, long-term steroid treatment.
  • You cannot or do not want to follow the dietary rules that come with this procedure.
  • You might be allergic to materials in the device.
  • You cannot tolerate pain from an implanted device.How are you supposed to know this beforehand ? Many of us found out we couldn't.
  • You or someone in your family has an autoimmune connective tissue disease. That might be a disease such as systemic lupus erythematosus or scleroderma. The same is true if you have symptoms of one of these diseases.

Avoid taking non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS) like ibuprofen, Advil, Motrin, and Aleve.  NSAIDS increase the risk of ulcers in lap band patients and should be avoided.

You have  Degenerative Arthritis,  don't you need to take NSAIDS to help reduce inflammation, thereby reducing the pain ?

List of NSAIDs

This list of NSAIDs, Non Steriod Anti-Inflammatory Drugs, is important because many people may be taking these drugs not realizing that they are NSAIDs and that they may be putting their life at risk.

NSAIDs are not safe and the FDA is not capable the way it's currently structured of safeguarding the public. The only way to be sure of your safety is to educate yourself and ask questions.
 

Generic name

Brand name

Aspirin

Anacin, Ascriptin, Bayer, Bufferin, Ecotrin, Excedrin

Choline and magnesium salicylates

CMT,Tricosal, Trilisate

Choline salicylate

Arthropan

Celecoxib

Celebrex

Diclofenac potassium

Cataflam

Diclofenac sodium

Voltaren, Voltaren XR

Diclofenac sodium with misoprostol

Arthrotec

Diflunisal

Dolobid

Etodolac

Lodine, Lodine XL

Fenoprofen calcium

Nalfon

Flurbiprofen

Ansaid

Ibuprofen

Advil, Motrin, Motrin IB, Nuprin

Indomethacin

Indocin, Indocin SR

Ketoprofen

Actron,Orudis, Orudis KT, Oruvail

Magnesium salicylate

Arthritab, Bayer Select, Doan's Pills, Magan, Mobidin, Mobogesic

Meclofenamate sodium

Meclomen

Mefenamic acid

Ponstel

Meloxicam

Mobic

Nabumetone

Relafen

Naproxen

Naprosyn, Naprelan

Naproxen sodium

Aleve, Anaprox

Oxaprozin

Daypro

Piroxicam

Feldene

Rofecoxib

Vioxx

Salsalate

Amigesic, Anaflex 750, Disalcid, Marthritic, Mono-Gesic, Salflex, Salsitab

Sodium salicylate

various generics

Sulindac

Clinoril

Tolmetin sodium

Tolectin

Valdecoxib

Bextra



*The above list of NSAIDs contains the most commonly used NSAIDs. Click here for a more complete list.

 




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