Happy Stories of Success???
The stomach lining regenerates to protect itself from gastric acid, but the stomach itself doesn't. Did your father have a gastrectomy because of ulcers? If he did, he may have had nerve damage that made him lose the ability to feel full. I have satiety issues from nerve damage from the band.
Avoid kemmerling, Green Bay, WI
Your stomach can not grow back, it's physically impossible. With a surgery like your fathers they remove only the stomach that needs to be removed, which means the larger more stretchy part of the stomach is left and can become distended or "stretched", with a properly done sleeve they remove all of that larger stretchy part so there is generally very little tissue left to stretch, it can happen with a poorly made sleeve or a larger sleeve, but in general with an experience surgeon who knows the procedure this will not happen.
On March 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM Pacific Time, Kitty_mom wrote:
I am not going to give you the low down on my history of complications, but I recently learned from my surgeon that many of the more invasive surgeries are only effective for 18 months. The band can always be adjusted. I was very happy with my band until I had complications. Most people do not have complications. We just happen to be the people who need on going support. I am sure that if I had been complication free I would have stopped posting in OH a long time ago.~ I recently learned from my surgeon that many of the more invasive surgeries are only effective for 18 months. The band can always be adjusted.~
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think your band was even effective for 18 months! You've already had it replaced, and from reading your previous posts, it seems you've had nothing but problems, so please don't come on here trashing the other WLS's when you know full well that the band did NOT work for you, and it does NOT work for most bandsters! Don't believe me? Go on the revision forum and see how many posts are from people revising FROM the band!
Have a nice day......
Excuse me but I am not trashing other WLS. I had the discussion with my surgeon because I was considering other WLS. I am reporting what he told me & I believe that people need to know the full truth. The first band was wonderful until a trip to Europe expanded a bubble & moved my band. Yes I am getting fed up with my band but I have not given up. The last fill seems to have brought me to full restriction. Do you think you own this public forum? Who are you say who can & can't post here.?
I was shocked when I checked this forum & saw how many people were trashing the band & even advertising via links for other surgeries. I really wondered if some people were ringers here to recruit for certain doctors. I consider making a complaint to OH, but realized investigating this would be impossible.
The Lap-band forum used to be a great place for support & information re the lap-band. Once people switch to other WLS, they should switch forums.
As for your comments about my father's surgeries- he had 50% of his stomach remove TWICE. His stomach stretched after each surgery. His surgeries were many years ago, so one can not compare to today's surgical practice. I have to concede that the sleeve surgery removes 60% or more of the stomach. That may make a difference in the stomach's ability to stretch. I googled studies on the long term efficacy of the sleeve & a dietitian wrote "The stomach remaining after your sleeve gastronomy will gradually stretch and permit larger meals. So you can stretch out your new smaller stomach and create more space that's always there to fill." I could.t find longitudinal studies on the VSG, but I can rebut you comment nor support mine, but I passed on what my doctor told me in good faith & were intended to be supportive to Lap-banders. He was not referring to the stomach stretching but to the body adjusting to the sleeve or RNY after 18 months, thus becoming ineffective.
I was shocked when I checked this forum & saw how many people were trashing the band & even advertising via links for other surgeries. I really wondered if some people were ringers here to recruit for certain doctors. I consider making a complaint to OH, but realized investigating this would be impossible.
The Lap-band forum used to be a great place for support & information re the lap-band. Once people switch to other WLS, they should switch forums.
As for your comments about my father's surgeries- he had 50% of his stomach remove TWICE. His stomach stretched after each surgery. His surgeries were many years ago, so one can not compare to today's surgical practice. I have to concede that the sleeve surgery removes 60% or more of the stomach. That may make a difference in the stomach's ability to stretch. I googled studies on the long term efficacy of the sleeve & a dietitian wrote "The stomach remaining after your sleeve gastronomy will gradually stretch and permit larger meals. So you can stretch out your new smaller stomach and create more space that's always there to fill." I could.t find longitudinal studies on the VSG, but I can rebut you comment nor support mine, but I passed on what my doctor told me in good faith & were intended to be supportive to Lap-banders. He was not referring to the stomach stretching but to the body adjusting to the sleeve or RNY after 18 months, thus becoming ineffective.
Gastronomy means the art of cooking good food. Gastrectomy is a surgery.
Why do you think that once people no longer have a band that they shouldn't post on the band forum? Who is actually going to HELP those people having complications? If everyone who had a band issue migrated to a different forum, it would be like the blind leading the blind. This board is still a good place for support and information. Oftentimes, it's ignored or unappreciated, but it's still honest support and information.
Back when my band was killing me, I had no one to help me. No one knew a dang thing about any of the band complications. Today, you'll see people post about problems they're having and all the happy bandsters can't give advice because they haven't been through it.
Why do you think that once people no longer have a band that they shouldn't post on the band forum? Who is actually going to HELP those people having complications? If everyone who had a band issue migrated to a different forum, it would be like the blind leading the blind. This board is still a good place for support and information. Oftentimes, it's ignored or unappreciated, but it's still honest support and information.
Back when my band was killing me, I had no one to help me. No one knew a dang thing about any of the band complications. Today, you'll see people post about problems they're having and all the happy bandsters can't give advice because they haven't been through it.
Avoid kemmerling, Green Bay, WI
On March 29, 2012 at 2:57 PM Pacific Time, Kitty_mom wrote:
Excuse me but I am not trashing other WLS. I had the discussion with my surgeon because I was considering other WLS. I am reporting what he told me & I believe that people need to know the full truth. The first band was wonderful until a trip to Europe expanded a bubble & moved my band. Yes I am getting fed up with my band but I have not given up. The last fill seems to have brought me to full restriction. Do you think you own this public forum? Who are you say who can & can't post here.?I was shocked when I checked this forum & saw how many people were trashing the band & even advertising via links for other surgeries. I really wondered if some people were ringers here to recruit for certain doctors. I consider making a complaint to OH, but realized investigating this would be impossible.
The Lap-band forum used to be a great place for support & information re the lap-band. Once people switch to other WLS, they should switch forums.
As for your comments about my father's surgeries- he had 50% of his stomach remove TWICE. His stomach stretched after each surgery. His surgeries were many years ago, so one can not compare to today's surgical practice. I have to concede that the sleeve surgery removes 60% or more of the stomach. That may make a difference in the stomach's ability to stretch. I googled studies on the long term efficacy of the sleeve & a dietitian wrote "The stomach remaining after your sleeve gastronomy will gradually stretch and permit larger meals. So you can stretch out your new smaller stomach and create more space that's always there to fill." I could.t find longitudinal studies on the VSG, but I can rebut you comment nor support mine, but I passed on what my doctor told me in good faith & were intended to be supportive to Lap-banders. He was not referring to the stomach stretching but to the body adjusting to the sleeve or RNY after 18 months, thus becoming ineffective.
When referring to the sleeved stomach stretching, you really aren't telling the whole story here.
When you come out of surgery your stomach is about the size of your thumb. It takes about 4-6 months for your sleeve to mature to the size we want it to be.
As for those who have stretched stomachs down the road that is usually surgeon technique, they leave too much of the fundus and the fundus does indeed stretch.
So while your info is somewhat correct it is lacking a majority of the information.
And other surgery types most certainly do not last 18 months, that is just insane.