Some clarity

Frequently we get told to go see the failure board and weep over all the band failures.

Well I just did.

I read thru all the posts on two pages which takes us back to June of this year. The number of failures posting there by surgery is as follows:

Sleeve : 1
Realize : 1
VSG : 11
Lap-Band : 17
RNY : 18

See, this is what it looks like when people look up data instead of letting their emotions get the best of them.




Once again, as if anyone cares....
I am not saying there aren't troubles with the band.
I'm not saying I won't have side effects or a total failure requiring another surgery.

I'm just saying there is definitely two sides to the conversation, and one side gets over represented by very passionate proponents. (and I wish nothing but good things to them)

Just what is it you're calling the "failure board"?

One question, since I know a lot of those folks---the surgery type you're listing is the surgery they have NOW, correct? I really think most of them had a Band at some point, then revised to another procedure.

MsBatt I knew that was the case (common sense tells you that is the case, lol!), but I was waiting for her to "clarify" what "failure board" she was referring to since there is a failed WLS forum and a failed band group (she wasn't very clear for someone who wanted to "clarify" things for us, lol). Either way I knew the info she was referring to was incorrect.

I'm sure she won't want to discuss it any further though now since she knows the numbers she stated were nothing close to accurate.

Are you proclaiming these to be the stats of MY group ?

They are looking at the wrong board! There is a failed surgery forum which is for any failed surgery. The failed lapband isn't open to the general populace you have to be OK'd to join, so this person has incorrect information!

On December 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM Pacific Time, docd wrote: Frequently we get told to go see the failure board and weep over all the band failures.

Well I just did.

I read thru all the posts on two pages which takes us back to June of this year. The number of failures posting there by surgery is as follows:

Sleeve : 1
Realize : 1
VSG : 11
Lap-Band : 17
RNY : 18

See, this is what it looks like when people look up data instead of letting their emotions get the best of them.




Once again, as if anyone cares....
I am not saying there aren't troubles with the band.
I'm not saying I won't have side effects or a total failure requiring another surgery.

I'm just saying there is definitely two sides to the conversation, and one side gets over represented by very passionate proponents. (and I wish nothing but good things to them)

 
~See, this is what it looks like when people look up data instead of letting their emotions get the best of them.~


See, THIS is what it looks like when people look up data instead of letting their emotions get the best of them:

www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/ASMBS/20919

And isn't VSG and Sleeve the same surgery?

Yep---'VSG' stands for 'Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy'.

If you have some time to spare, go through the history of this board and notice the timeline when complications start developing... and what those complications are. "I'm having left shoulder pain!" or "My band is tightening on its own!"  It's all there for those who WANT to know and prepare for the truth.  Did you fully research your WLS options? How do you not know that VSG and the Sleeve are the same surgery?   Before a person decides one surgery over another, they need to know what surgeries there are and the way each affects the anatomy.

You'll see the same time frame and the same complications happening over and over and over... and yet, people are still convinced that these things won't "happen to them." Who do they happen to, then?  People think "following the rules" is going to make them exempt from complications, apparently. 

 I went in to surgery planning to do every single thing right. Unfortunately, I bought into the lies and sales pitch... just like a lot of others do... and found early on that the makers of the lapband over-promise and woefully under-deliver.  If people think they have researched and made a good decision, in spite of the myriad evidence to the contrary, good luck to them. Hopefully they won't need luck, but in reality, they probably will.


The Revisions forum is FULL of band revisions.

http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/revision/a,messageboard/bo ard_id,5360/

I started this "journey" back in 1990-something, researching the RnY. I had a surgeon *****ally wanted to start making some money doing the lapbands, so I trusted him when he told me it was a good choice. And over the course of almost a decade, I've seen how it's NOT a good choice for MOST people. And yet, no one wants to believe this... and it's hard for me to understand why. I assume it's because we're all so damned desperate to lose weight that we go into some sort of temporary fugue state or something and ignore all the risks that are laid out right in front of us. And yes, I know that "all surgeries contain risks," however, the band seems to promise to be less risky and is, in fact, moreso in the long run. This seems to be the fact that people want to ignore. It's like watching people jump off a cliff over and over and over. It actually pains me. I wish nothing but good things to all people, too. That's the reason I still post about my experience with the band.