almost 2 years lapband FAIL

(deactivated member)
on 8/22/11 2:03 am - Califreakinfornia , CA
On August 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM Pacific Time, jadelyn wrote:
Sorry your have such a difficult time with the band! We all need to keep in mind that all weight loss surgery no matter what it is, is a TOOL!  If you are not mentally ready to loss the weight, it will not happen, well in the beginning it will.  Weight loss surgery is not a quick fix.  It's a tool to assist you in your journey of making a life long change and commitment that takes hard work. . Keep in mind, the surgery will not change eating habits. It will not make you stop grazing, it will not make you commit to an excise routine, it will not make you stop eating between meals, it will not make you stop eating 4 hours before you go to bed, it will not make you stop eating cake, candy, ice cream, chips and all the other bad stuff we are able to eat after the surgery, and it most definitely will not change how we look at food and how we crave it!  All of this is up to self with the assistant of the tool. 

That's when the mental aspect comes in to play.  we need to really take a long look at our self and say are we truly committed to these surgeries.  Yes they do work and yes they do fail some of us but, we fail them by still have the mind set that got us in this weigh situation in the first place!  I believe that one need to take a long look at self and make a commitment to these surgeries and realize that they are a tool, there to assist  in the weight loss journey.  Should I say the band failed me when it slipped 2 years ago? No! It was my fault because I did not follow the band rules.  Should I say why the hell can't I loss or not losing any weight when in fact I just sat here typing and ate five cookies? hummmm and wonder why the hell I can not loss these last 20lbs?

I am 4 years out  two out of a slip of my band that was repaired and have with hard work have lost 92lbs. I work my tool. I exercise 6 to 7 days a week and for the most part eat right.  I pay close attention to my band when I'm eating, eat slow and know when to push away.  I have learn how to manipulate my band it easy to do.  But do I NO....going from a size 20 to a size 6/8 taste way sweeter. Do surgery fail us absolutely with out a doubt they do in some cases but we need to keep in mind once again they are a tool their to assist us in our weight loss journey.  Good luck with  your surgery!

jade

SMDH
Jean M.
on 8/22/11 12:24 am
Revision on 08/16/12
..its so strange because i vomit whenever i eat but still im NOT losing weight:(

Your weight is affected by lots of factors in addition to food intake, like hormones, medications, exercise, etc. For me the #1 enemy when my band is too tight for me to eat solid food is LIQUID CALORIES. Calories from  things like fancy coffee drinks, milkshakes, fruit juice, etc add up much faster than you realize, give you no satiety, and not much good in the way of nutrition.

do the weight fall off fast with the gastic bypass?

If you expect the weight to" fall off fast", you're likely to be disappointed no matter what WLS you revise to. Every WLS patient (with the possible exception of DS, but I'm not going down that road today) must make good food choices, control portions, avoid grazing, avoid liquid calories, exercise, and deal with any emotional issues that might affect their eating.

I agree with another poster who said you really need to find a good surgeon you can trust, whether you keep your band or revise to another procedure.

Good luck,
Jean

Jean McMillan c.2009-2013 - Always a bandster at heart
author of Bandwagon (TM), Strategies for Success  with the Adjustable Gastric Band & Bandwagon Cookery. Bandwagon for Kindle now available on Amazon.  Read my blog at: jean-onthebandwagon.blogspot.com 

   

 

 

 

nursediez
on 8/21/11 11:41 am
I am sorry that you didnt lose a pound....in two years but I would have done something about it if I didnt lose a pound after 3 or 6 months....why did you wait so long? Also were you watching what you ate? Remember the lap band is a tool and you have to work with it. If you surgeon never answered you why didnt you go to another one? Please do all the research first and I wish you luck in whatever your decision is.
 B.S.N., R.N.

marypatf
on 8/21/11 11:19 pm

It is so hard to feel like something is not working for you!  :(..
Why have you not seen your doctor in a year??
Did you make and appointment?  "I made an appointment but his office never got back with me"...I dont get what you mean about this?

How much fluid had you had in the band before it was taken out and why didnt they start to refill it?
Are you going to see the same surgeon or go to someone else?  It does not seem like you are too happy with your current one..? 

Good luck! I hope you find a solution that makes you feel good...   :)

HW-272, PreOp Diet Start-269, SurgWeight-256,                                               CurrentWeight 189. 
        
(deactivated member)
on 8/21/11 11:26 pm, edited 8/21/11 11:28 pm - Rockville, MD

It seems like you have not given your band a chance to work for you. I don't have a band yet, but my sister has had hers for 4 years now. From reading these boards it seems like a lot of people need more help than the band can provide for them.

I have seen what my sister does to lose her weight and she has to exercise and sweat 4 days a week for about 1 hour, and she follow a high protein low carb diet most of the time she still eat sweets sometimes too, so her diet is not that strict.

But from all the people that I have seen personally fail with the band, they never tried to work with it, they were looking for the band to do most of the work. Did you understand clearly that you would have to diet and exercise with the band the same way you did before you got your surgery?

I just want to let you know RNY is not a a walk in the park either, I have friends with that too and the one that have not gained all her weight back dumps like crazy at 5 years and she cannot eat freely from restaurant menus when we dined out without having dumping attacks, and she still is not at a normal bmi, she does not exercise and her skin look bad too.

You have to realize all weight loss surgeries are tools, if you are not losing weight due to non-compliance and exercising and eating right, I don't think the bypass will work either, there is no magic to it, my friend with RNY diet is more restrictive than my sister with the band, the only difference is my sister with the band eat what she wants but she exercise to maintain her weight loss, I don't think there is a magic cure for non compliance.

BuckeyeGirl
on 8/22/11 1:59 am - TN

Just FYI...if a bandster has a slip or experiences excessive tightening to the point of frequent vomiting, dense protein is nearly impossible to eat. The band may very well be limiting her food options. There were many times when my band would randomly tighten and I would have to drink my calories or rely on slider foods if I even wanted to attempt solid food. This may have made me look "non-compliant" by your description. Sometimes it is the band who is non-compliant.

When my restriction problems were resolved with the VSG, I was easily able to focus on a high protein lifestyle, easily avoid slider foods or drinking my calories, and have enjoyed immense success. If this is her problem and she is unable to tolerate dense protein, a revision may be required to allow her to do her part in this weight loss process.

Lindsey

 

  

    
(deactivated member)
on 8/22/11 2:08 am
Sometimes it is the band who is non-compliant

and i'll repost it again :   Sometimes it is the band who is non-compliant.


Dev *.
on 8/21/11 11:40 pm - Austin, TX
From what you describe, it sounds like you really, really need to find a new doctor. If you having food intolerances and vomiting with an empoty band, it is possible you might even have a slip. If you're attempting to make appointments and your doctor's office isn't calling you back, it sounds like THEY have failed you! Please do 2 things: try again to make an appointment with your current MD - INSIST on one, you need a flouro to check your band position. Second: start looking for a new doc. It may not be easy to find a new surgeon when you haven't moved to a new city (a lot of surgeons are reluctant to take another surgeon's patient's). BUT really, the way this current doctor's office has responded, would you really want another surgey from the same doctor? Write a letter detailing all the difficulty you've experienced with the current doctor then call the offices of other bariatric surgeons on your area and ask if you can fax the letter and see if they will consider taking you as a patient (this is what I had to do to change doctors a few years ago). Vomiting is NOT normal and the reason you aren't losing is most likely because it is usually the high calories "bad for you" foods that can slide past. You need to figure out what is going on and get a new doctor so you can make a good decision about where to go from here.

Banded 03/22/06  276/261/184 (highest/surgery/lowest)

Sleeved 07/11/2013  228/165 (surgery/current) (111lbs lost)

Mom to two of the cutest boys on earth.

TamaraL
on 8/22/11 12:05 am
I am a revision from lap band to RNY. My first suggestion is to find a surgeon you have complete confidence in!!!!  Then meet with surgeon and see if there is any thing they can do for the band or look into revising.  It sounds like your band may have slipped.


Like others have said the bypass is a tool.  My biggest suggestion to people who are looking into revision is to find out why you didn't lose with the band.  Was it you and your eating habits or is it the band.  I can honestly say that the band was 85-90% of my problem.  The other 10-15% was my food choices because the band made me sick!!!


I think your original post leads people to beleive that you didn't lose any weight in the beginning but then with later post it looks like you originally did lose 50 pounds and have regained this.  I look at the band as a rehearsal and the bypass it the real thing.  There is no going back once you have the bypass. 

Make sure you research all surgeries and decide what is best for you!!



 

(deactivated member)
on 8/22/11 2:25 am - Califreakinfornia , CA
On August 21, 2011 at 3:06 PM Pacific Time, Bianca .. wrote:
 I got my lapband placed on September 22.2009 and next month will make exactly 2 years and i haven't lost a pound:( i havent seen my  surgeon since last September and he don't even make appointments to follow up with me..I made an appointment but his office never got back with me..so anyway i plan on trying again and i want him to REMOVE my lapband and i want gastric bypass because it seem like a lot of people found the gastric bypass successful..but i want to know would i have to go through the 9 months of orientation again for gastric bypass surgery? I already know everything about it..so i dont see the point of starting over..but obviously the band just isnt for me it havent helped at all its an total fail..and i dont have no saline in the port and i constantly vomit but still don't lose weight? i dont understand but i want to talk to my surgeon abt gastric bypass..any input on if i will have to attend 9 months of orientation or not? 
It doesn't take a genius to see that you are having issues with your band. I just read your posting history and have come to the conclusion that you really went into this surgery completely uninformed on how the lap band works.

I can see that you were not compliant with the lap band rules and you are ill prepared to advocate for yourself. Your band needs to be removed and you have a lot of research to do in order for you to get it removed. I can't even begin to tell you where to start because your band experience is such a mess.

I'm trying to help you here, and I know this is coming out harsh, but do not get the RNY surgery. You are NOT prepared to have any revision surgery. You have a lot to learn about all the revision surgeries. I fear that at this time if you were to go ahead with any revision surgery, that you would cause great harm to your health.

You do not know enough about your lap band...let alone what you would need to know about caring for yourself after having a malabsorbative procedure.

Yours is going to be a messy and time consuming fix. If you can handle some straight talk and are willing to listen to those of us that genuinely want to help you, then click on my link in my siggy and we will help you get the help you need.


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