Fear

(deactivated member)
on 6/16/11 11:29 am
On June 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM Pacific Time, ~~Nana ~. wrote:

Lap bands just DON'T SLIP....if they Just 'slipped' surgeons would be sued like crazy...they know what causes slippage and its well documented...sure sometimes some patients body may reject the band and that is rare...there are post op instructions for a reason....the band CAN slip before six weeks post op if the patient eat solids too quickly or vomits before the band can heal...THIS IS WELL KNOWN.


In the lap band community the symptoms of being too tight which LEADS TO BAND SLIPPAGE if saline is not removed promptly THIS IS WELL KNOWN... ITS NO HIDDEN SECRET THAT NIGHT REFLUX/CARRYING AROUND A SPIT CUP/HORRIBLE BURNING/FOOD INTOLERANCE/VOMITING IS NORMAL??? THESE FOOLS KNEW BETTER...NOT SURE WHY ALL THE BAND BASHERS LIKE TO PLAY DUMB TO THIS... THEY KNOW THEY WERE TOO TIGHT... BUT I GUESS THEY WERE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE SCALES MOVING THAN GETTING TO THEIR SURGEON IN TIME...AND I GET TIRED OF HEARING THE SAME BULLSH*T FROM THOSE WHO ABUSED THEIR BANDS...IF THEY ARE GOING TO ABUSE IT DON'T BLAME OTHERS and come back there to lie to newbies to say the band causes these issues...they NEED TO SAY DON'T WALK IN THEIR SHOES AND ABUSE THE BAND FROM BEING TOO TIGHT....I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE CLARIFICATION NEEDS TO BE....
.....

 Naomi!!!! Your head is either in the sand or up your ass.

Sorry, I've listened to your bull-crap for too long.  I had a HUGE amount of faith in my band and I worked it according to the rules better anyone.  At the slightest HINT of being too tight I went in to have an unfill. I worked through the liquid, mushies, and solid food incorporation every time this happened.  In fact, according to your own posts, I had less interaction with my band port than you did. I leaned towards less restriction for safety reasons in my Lap-Band decisions and it STILL had a prolapse.  

You try to over simplify the complications of the band and constantly blame former bandsters for the failures of the band and that is complete bull****  You are far too assumptive of how people's band experiences were because you are DEAD SET that the band can't ever be the problem. 

In a LOT of people the band is NOT consistent with it's restriction. In emergency cases you may NOT be able to get your band opened in all ERs. The band CAN MOST ASSUREDLY tighten ON IT'S OWN without a fill and possibly tighten to the point where you have too much restriction when completely unfilled.

That's not me trying to scare people, that is a truth that CAN happen with a band. There is a reason that the revision board is FILLED with people revising FROM the band to a different surgery and it's not because they all tried to stuff chicken breast through a band that was too tight.

MARIA F.
on 6/16/11 12:54 pm - Athens, GA
On June 16, 2011 at 6:29 PM Pacific Time, OsoGrande wrote:
On June 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM Pacific Time, ~~Nana ~. wrote:

Lap bands just DON'T SLIP....if they Just 'slipped' surgeons would be sued like crazy...they know what causes slippage and its well documented...sure sometimes some patients body may reject the band and that is rare...there are post op instructions for a reason....the band CAN slip before six weeks post op if the patient eat solids too quickly or vomits before the band can heal...THIS IS WELL KNOWN.


In the lap band community the symptoms of being too tight which LEADS TO BAND SLIPPAGE if saline is not removed promptly THIS IS WELL KNOWN... ITS NO HIDDEN SECRET THAT NIGHT REFLUX/CARRYING AROUND A SPIT CUP/HORRIBLE BURNING/FOOD INTOLERANCE/VOMITING IS NORMAL??? THESE FOOLS KNEW BETTER...NOT SURE WHY ALL THE BAND BASHERS LIKE TO PLAY DUMB TO THIS... THEY KNOW THEY WERE TOO TIGHT... BUT I GUESS THEY WERE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE SCALES MOVING THAN GETTING TO THEIR SURGEON IN TIME...AND I GET TIRED OF HEARING THE SAME BULLSH*T FROM THOSE WHO ABUSED THEIR BANDS...IF THEY ARE GOING TO ABUSE IT DON'T BLAME OTHERS and come back there to lie to newbies to say the band causes these issues...they NEED TO SAY DON'T WALK IN THEIR SHOES AND ABUSE THE BAND FROM BEING TOO TIGHT....I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE CLARIFICATION NEEDS TO BE....
.....

 Naomi!!!! Your head is either in the sand or up your ass.

Sorry, I've listened to your bull-crap for too long.  I had a HUGE amount of faith in my band and I worked it according to the rules better anyone.  At the slightest HINT of being too tight I went in to have an unfill. I worked through the liquid, mushies, and solid food incorporation every time this happened.  In fact, according to your own posts, I had less interaction with my band port than you did. I leaned towards less restriction for safety reasons in my Lap-Band decisions and it STILL had a prolapse.  

You try to over simplify the complications of the band and constantly blame former bandsters for the failures of the band and that is complete bull****  You are far too assumptive of how people's band experiences were because you are DEAD SET that the band can't ever be the problem. 

In a LOT of people the band is NOT consistent with it's restriction. In emergency cases you may NOT be able to get your band opened in all ERs. The band CAN MOST ASSUREDLY tighten ON IT'S OWN without a fill and possibly tighten to the point where you have too much restriction when completely unfilled.

That's not me trying to scare people, that is a truth that CAN happen with a band. There is a reason that the revision board is FILLED with people revising FROM the band to a different surgery and it's not because they all tried to stuff chicken breast through a band that was too tight.


~Naomi!!!! Your head is either in the sand or up your ass.~

I vote for the latter! ;-)

 

   FormerlyFluffy.com

 

Phyllis C.
on 6/16/11 10:02 pm
Bear,

I just can not comprehend what is so hard to understand about the risks of having a device that changes your whole digestive process just by being there.  It is not meant to be there.  Humans evolved millions of years without any such device interfering with their consumption of food.

It is not like any other device that aims to restore a normal function like a knee replacement.  Even those types of things cause problems.  There is a big lawsuit right now concerning hip replacement.

It is a foreign invader that most bodies will work to reject over time.

Any weightloss surgery whose number 1 rule is to eat solid protein and then makes it near impossible to do so, is not going to work over the long term!!!  This is not the WLS patients fault.  It is the fault of a really bad idea for weight loss.

I felt like I was sick all of the time when I had the band.  There was a low grade sick feeling that zapped my energy.  In addition, I felt the effects of the band directly.  I had a sore raw throat, pain in my sternum and port pain.  I don't care what the reason was.  My body just was not capable of adjusting to the band under any cir****tances. 

Empty or filled to the max, my band made my life miserable.

Phyllis
"Me agreeing with you doesn't preclude you from being a deviant."

Tom C.
on 6/18/11 11:07 pm - Mount Arlington, NJ
On June 16, 2011 at 10:12 AM Pacific Time, ~~Nana ~. wrote:
You need to have fear...60 pounds is over kill for RNY...I think 100 pounds is overkill for RNY....I know too many post ops over 5 years regretting RNY, they no longer have restriction, their tool no longer works, on top of that they have a host of miserable problems to deal with like dumping FOREVER when the honeymoon is over dumping is still there, can't drink social drinks without fainting, along with a host of many surgeries including bowel obstructions, hernias, ulcers and a host of other illness....they GAVE UP BEING HEALTHLY and pleasantly plump to a life time of misery...so yes you should have fear -- so sometimes a quick fix is not worth a life time of misery....good luck
 . . . when the honeymoon is over dumping is still there, can't drink social drinks without fainting . . .

Where do you get this crap from? I'm 2 1/2 years out and I don't dump anymore at all. . .and I've never, ever fainted from having a "social drink". Geez, why not tell her that RNY causes pregnancy in some while you're at it? 
(deactivated member)
on 6/16/11 5:25 am - ~Somewhere in~, PA

Ok...why don't surgeons rewrite the gastric bypass literature that LISTS DUMPING SYNDROME AS A POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECT  THAT LASTS FOREVER? Are you suggesting DUMPING SYNDROMES IS NOT A SIDE EFFECT OF EATING SUGAR OR SOME CARBS?  YOU NEED TO QUIT LYING....if you don't dump anymore that is great...I have FAMILY MEMBERS and friends that had the bypass and they STILL DUMP...some did not dump until years later....

You make it sound as if ALL RnY patients dump, and dump forever. That is simply not true. Some RnY patients dump. Some RnY patients that dump may dump forever, many do not. And I don't know what "gastric bypass literature" you're talking about as each surgeon produces their own literature on this procedure as it is not a particular "product" (as is the case with the Lap Band (a product of Allergan) or the Realize Band (a product of Johnson & Johnson)). 

And what the hell was that comment about RnY patients fainting from a social drink?  You're killing me here!!
(deactivated member)
on 6/16/11 5:45 am, edited 6/16/11 5:48 am - ~Somewhere in~, PA
Since you put it that way....set forth today  all Lap band haters declare RNY as being a none dumping weight loss surgery that has NO RISKS and is the safest weight loss surgery that guarantees a life time of long lasting weight loss with no effort or exercise...are you happy now ?

Edited to add: I know someone that personally fainted from drinking...also MANY have complained about alcohol addiction since they had RNY, something about their bodies absorb more alcohol than they did pre op and many get addicted or they can't drink it....

I'm not a Band hater. I don't tell anyone which surgery, if any, to choose. I just have a problem when anyone makes sweeping, and ignorant, statements about anything which may remotely impact someone's health. 
Sharyn S.
on 6/16/11 10:27 am - Bastrop, TX
RNY on 08/19/04 with
On June 16, 2011 at 10:12 AM Pacific Time, ~~Nana ~. wrote:
You need to have fear...60 pounds is over kill for RNY...I think 100 pounds is overkill for RNY....I know too many post ops over 5 years regretting RNY, they no longer have restriction, their tool no longer works, on top of that they have a host of miserable problems to deal with like dumping FOREVER when the honeymoon is over dumping is still there, can't drink social drinks without fainting, along with a host of many surgeries including bowel obstructions, hernias, ulcers and a host of other illness....they GAVE UP BEING HEALTHLY and pleasantly plump to a life time of misery...so yes you should have fear -- so sometimes a quick fix is not worth a life time of misery....good luck
I had my RNY nearly 7 years ago and I am not miserable.  Far from it.  I have maintained a 115 pound weightloss.  I am no longer hypertensive.  My knees and back no longer hurt 24/7/365.  I am off ALL pre-op prescription medications.  I no longer dump and I can eat whatever the hell I want.  I stopped drinking alcohol more than a decade before my RNY, so I don't know if I would faint if I drank socially, or not.  But, I have been around many RNYers while they enjoyed an adult beverage and none of them ever fainted.  Where the **** did you get that piece of wisdom???

Bowel obstructions and hernias are a complication of ANY abdominal surgery.  How do I know this???  I am a nurse and have to go over surgical complications with patients all the time.  Anyone can get an ulcer.

I didn't give up being healthy when I elected to have my RNY.  I got healthy after I lost 100% of my excess weight.

You really are a tool.

Sharyn, RN

RIP, MOM ~ 5/31/1944 - 5/11/2010
RIP, DADDY ~ 9/2/1934 - 1/25/2012

Most Active
×