Lap Band surgery went wrong

JoMixx
on 1/27/11 6:10 am - West Yarmouth, MA

My MD warned me that if the liver was too large and required too much manipulation it could be a problem.  They don't want to lacerate your liver during the procedure!  Another thing he warned me about is scarring.  I had an open gall bladder surgery in the 80's before they did it laprascopic.  There was a potential that  I would have too much scar tissue. 

Surgery 1/6/11 , 14ml band - 0ml fill      
Kate -True Brit
on 1/26/11 3:27 pm - UK

yes, I have heard of it.

The pre-op diet that many docs require is to shrink and soften the liver. Usually, this is sufficient but if, as apparently happened in your case, the liver is still too large (and that does not relate to your overall weight), i can understand your doc making the decision not to put your overall health at risk. Better alive and fully functionning!

But I can understnad how disappointed you must be.

Kate

Highest 290, Banded - 248   Lowest 139 (too thin!). Comfort zone 155-165.

Happily banded since May 2006.  Regain of 28lbs 2013-14.  ALL GONE!

But some has returned! Up to 175, argh! Off we go again,

   

(deactivated member)
on 1/26/11 7:05 pm
That's got to be pretty disappointing -- a surgery and no band.  I'm sorry.

When I was in my pro-op phase I was told the same thing. But I gathered that didn't happen to patients very often.  I wonder if it might be more of a technique issue with your surgeon. Do you know if he does a lot of bands?

Trixie
mary101678
on 1/26/11 7:30 pm - RI
VSG on 07/10/12
My doc commented that my liver was "very large" when he performed the surgery. The only explanation I had was that I had been sick the week before with that stomach flu that was going around right after Thanksgiving. (Surgery was Dec 7, 2010). For an entire week, I could eat almost nothing, and lived on liquids and mushy cereal.

I think the liver issue was connected to that, plus the fact that the week before I was sick was Thansgiving, but I didn't gorge myself then, just normal amounts of food, and tiny pieces of dessert, knowing I was having the band surgery.

I really think the surgeons need to ask people if they've had a recent illness or infection, because these illnesses could enlarge the liver.

Are you scheduled for another surgery date?
                              
OzzieGirl
on 1/26/11 9:14 pm - NY
Lap Band on 11/16/10 with
I had my lapband surgery performed by Dr. Ferzli in November. He was very upfront with me when we discussed all WLS options. At that time, and again, right before surgery, he was adamant that if the liver looked enlarged, her would not be able to perform the surgery. He explained that in the past, he would have a CT scan to access the size of the liver, but the insurance companies refused to pay for the scan. Now, he doesn't know the size of the liver until he actually goes in.

So sorry that you went through all of this for nothing. I love Dr. Ferzli! If he didn't put in your band, he must have known it couldn't be done safely. Please be careful of another surgeon saying he'll put in the band. You don't want to have it done, if it's not done properly.

Best of luck to you....
OzzieGirl             
bubblesrn
on 1/26/11 9:53 pm
Sorry to hear you went through all of that and now just left with some discomfort and a lot of gas I'm sure.

My best advice is to try to decrease the size of your liver by keeping hydrated and staying away from high fat foods...
According to a bariatric confrence I went to recently, a lot of surgeons won't place a lap band if the liver is too large because 1. the liver can be knicked causing lots of bleeding and serious side effects, 2. once the weight is lost, higher risk for slippage of the band due to the liver shrinking and the stomach shrinking, 3. the trochars that help the surgeons do the surgery laparoscopically won't be able to help lift the liver up when the surgeon and camera are in the abdomen.  When the surgeon can't lift an organ with the lap devices, that's not a good sign.

Totally is a horrible feeling but in the end, your surgeon did what was best for you in the long run.  You would have probably run into a lot of complications post operatively and ultimately may have needed another surgery for the band to be removed.

Take care and keep in contact with your surgeon to see what the next step you can take should be.
Jan

all the weight has been lost post-op..I LOVE MY BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

highest weight: 333 pounds (I know I gained after my last "weigh in" in the doctors office so probably it's more like 340 pounds)
current weight: 151 pounds (7/12/11)
I've been at goal (165 pounds) for 6 months now and now on maintence.  I tend to go up and down depending on time of the month and such! 
            

Judy825
on 1/26/11 10:53 pm - Jacksonville, FL
I am sorry this has happen.  I am sure it hurts to have the pain and discomfort and no band.

But like the others, I too was told upfront that if my liver was to large my Doc would not perform the surgery.  This is why we have the pre op diets.  One other advise my Doc gave me in my 5day pre op appt was do not eat the "LAST MEAL"  You know the meal where you think, "Well I will never be able to eat a whole pizza (or any other food type here) again so I will do that now"  As for one meal can enlarge the liver to the point that he could not do surgery to place the band.   

My Doc is very upfront and even showed us pictures of a bad liver and good liver. 

Day of surgery, he asked how will my liver will look once he is in there.  And reminded me again that if it was large no go!

I wish you the best and speedy recovery!
        Seminar weight: 344. Consult Weight: 332.  Surgery Weight: 289   
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(deactivated member)
on 1/26/11 11:11 pm - Des Moines, IA
I'm sorry that happened to you, but it was for the best if your liver was too large to safely do the surgery.  Please don't run the hospital down or the surgeon.  What if he would have damaged your liver?  Did he suggest what needed to be done to get your liver to a safe size for surgery?
marypatf
on 1/26/11 11:50 pm
 I am sorry that happened...
It is a tough thing.. But I do have to agree with the other responses... All of the preop diets and preps are for your safety...

I wonder if insurance will pay for a sono of the liver if not the ct scan... 

I am from Brooklyn too and had my sx done at Maimonides.. I work there and wanted to be able to f/u easy.... 
But my doctor said the same thing... I would almost rather them not do it than to struggle and possibly knick the liver or cause more local trauma by pushing and wiggling my innards...  
HW-272, PreOp Diet Start-269, SurgWeight-256,                                               CurrentWeight 189. 
        
Stephanie M.
on 1/27/11 12:12 am
So sorry you did not get your band, but it is pretty much standard for patients with large livers to be put on a very low carb diet for 2-6 weeks(depending on BMI and liver size) prior to surgery in order to shrink the liver.  The liver is our largest internal organ and lies over the stomach and must be lifted and held away from the operating field in order to band you.  The liver is also very vascular and if it is nicked, you can suffer a large blood loss...there are very good reasons not to proceed if your liver is very large.

Did you have a pre-op diet and follow it closely??  My suggestion, if you still want the band (or any other lap procedure) is to go low carb and get that liver shrunk down as much as possible so you don't go through the dissappointment and pain of unnecessary surgery.

I have heard of many folks who have had your experience.

Good luck to you.

 

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