TO ALL OF YOU THAT ARE BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE

JustinsMama
on 8/27/08 12:18 pm - NC
Did you ask for forgiveness from the Youth group?

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Gentlemen, I wash my hands of this weirdness.

(deactivated member)
on 8/27/08 1:57 pm - AZ
On August 27, 2008 at 6:59 PM Pacific Time, mpdpsr wrote:
Sorry to all those who thought I was yelling.   Break computer is piece of crap, only does all caps, unless you can type holding down the shift key...... Not my fault.
Those that thought it was something towards me..... nope, don't even know the person that was bashed.....
I do try to take the good out of the post.  I like B$tchfest, OT's, ect..... butpersonal bashing...... those who have struggled their whole lives with weight...... think back..... it was no different than those poking fun, talking behind your back..... We are all human..... We are all trying to change something about us.  Some are there, some still trying.  I don't think I can make anyone act a certain way or do certain things..... I just think it'ssad to come to a support board, and read someone bashing another.
Did any of you know I stole lip gloss as a young girl? Not a felony, but I stole!!!!!  What kind of person am I?  Did any of you know I took money as a teenager from the church, the youth group.... I made all deposits and no one ever knew about it????  God I must be Awful?  Nope!! I asked for forgiveness and the only one that matters forgave me!!!  Did any of you know I cheated on my first husband? Yep!!!! Mistakes my WHOLE life!!!!!  God forgave me..... I don't think about it everyday.  It's something from yesterday and past I can't change.  Nothing I did I can take back.
I'm who I am.  Heck I can't be too bad, my local police department even hired me...... AFTER an hard long background check.
I'm just me, with my mistakes behind meMy friend's still like me and my family must love me.... but most of all I'm learning to love me

Let me ask you something.

Your issue is that this is a support board.

Just how supportive is it to claim you are an RN to bolster your credibility when the truth is your licensed was revoked by the state?

Just how supportive is it to be deceptive about selling total crap to newbies that are so stressed about losing weight they'll buy anything and pay anything for it?

Just how supportive is it to use fake IDs to slam dunk other members on this "support" board?

Please, answer the above questions and answer them honestly.

To be really honest, I think you are pointing your finger wagging at the wrong people.

(deactivated member)
on 8/27/08 2:06 pm - AZ
On August 27, 2008 at 6:59 PM Pacific Time, mpdpsr wrote:
Sorry to all those who thought I was yelling.   Break computer is piece of crap, only does all caps, unless you can type holding down the shift key...... Not my fault.
Those that thought it was something towards me..... nope, don't even know the person that was bashed.....
I do try to take the good out of the post.  I like B$tchfest, OT's, ect..... butpersonal bashing...... those who have struggled their whole lives with weight...... think back..... it was no different than those poking fun, talking behind your back..... We are all human..... We are all trying to change something about us.  Some are there, some still trying.  I don't think I can make anyone act a certain way or do certain things..... I just think it'ssad to come to a support board, and read someone bashing another.
Did any of you know I stole lip gloss as a young girl? Not a felony, but I stole!!!!!  What kind of person am I?  Did any of you know I took money as a teenager from the church, the youth group.... I made all deposits and no one ever knew about it????  God I must be Awful?  Nope!! I asked for forgiveness and the only one that matters forgave me!!!  Did any of you know I cheated on my first husband? Yep!!!! Mistakes my WHOLE life!!!!!  God forgave me..... I don't think about it everyday.  It's something from yesterday and past I can't change.  Nothing I did I can take back.
I'm who I am.  Heck I can't be too bad, my local police department even hired me...... AFTER an hard long background check.
I'm just me, with my mistakes behind meMy friend's still like me and my family must love me.... but most of all I'm learning to love me

I have another question about you regarding "supportive" and appropriate behaviors,.

Please read this thread, notice the "deactivated" member.  That was the wonderful, supportive, and caring RN you refer to that we were all so mean to.  She was posting under one of her fake IDs and blew it, she totally messed up and didn't realize what ID she was posting under.  She was posting as S but under the ID of "Elizabeth".  She was slam dunking me claiming that I did my own fills, losing my band was my own fault, etc.

This is the person you are defending and feeling sorry for.  I gotta tell you once again, you are pointing that wagging finger at the wrong person.

www.obesityhelp.com/forums/lapband/a,messageboard/board_id,5 359/cat_id,4959/topic_id,3707897/action,replies/

Now, I want to know.  Is this the kind of supportive you advocate?  And knowing what you know now, do you really think that outting this person as a fraud is not supportive to newbies?

You do realize she is still posting as of today, just under some of her other fake IDs, right?  Is that the kind of supportive you want the rest of us to show?  Sorry, I'm not gonna do it.  I'll be supportive in my way and you do whatever it is that you have to do.

cloudkid10
on 8/27/08 12:23 pm, edited 8/27/08 12:27 pm
I dunno..Stealing from a church youth group is pretty awful. I don't think I could efver forgive myself for something like that, whether I was a teenager or not..Or cheating.


As for "bashing" the only thing I did was stand up for myself against someone who decided to take advantage of a spiritually thirsty young girl and try to turn things into a more sexual nature. If your talking about the "nurse" That woman created a fake account and then got caught well people have to question her information and advice and call her out on it. Now your friend shouldnt completely write off this board because there were a few posts she didnt like then thats her problem. This board was created to share personal stories about WLS and to support one another..She can read the information and not even make posts. That does sound thin-skinned of her and kind of pathetic. These people arent suppose to be your best friends or be a replacement for socializing..We are all here because we share 1 common goal and that is WLS. I think shrinkingguy described it the best..She was intentionally giving out false information and encouraging others to ignore their doctor..THis board is only suppose to be a guideline or a suggestive way of living and not be replaced with actual medical advice

Don't let yourself get wrapped up in the "drama" aspect of it because you can't control what other people post or say, only yourself..No sense in getting angry over it..If she doesnt want to come back thats her choice, but she would be missing out on a lot of great information especially if shes considering having weight loss surgery..
7405pj
on 8/27/08 1:09 pm
Maybe we should close out this thread by saying how grateful we are that the mean-spirited people, a few of whom have posted responses within this thread, are few and far between.  Bashing isn't what anyone comes to this site for, and we can only ignore it when it makes an unwelcome appearance.

BB
SleepinDove6
on 8/27/08 1:25 pm - Garber, IA
WOW I read the  Boards every day ever single  post.I'm not sure which one  ya'll talking about...Is my invisible band too tight or what...Jeanie
taw1975
on 8/27/08 10:04 pm - DFW, TX
I am the originator of the post.  I stand firm in my convictions of that post as I said in the subsequent the following day entitled "Moving on."  The bottom line is this...this is an interent message board, people are people but they should be honest.  Troll accounts are the lowest form of dishonesty on a message board.  It's pathetic and it does not help anyone who is an active member.  The "pseudo nurse" got caught and it was addressed.   I did not like the turn of events on the post but expected some of it when I posted.  I still stand firm on my post.

We are here for support, we will be here for support but do not attempt to mislead us.

Bette B.
on 8/28/08 1:56 am
Assuming here that Taw's posting of a couple of days ago is what got your (yes) think-skinned friend so upset . . .

First off, unwad your panties and realize that her post was not to prove that she was "better" than anyone else. It was to call into question the integrity of a regular poster who, many people believe, is at best  harmless or - at worst - a possibly dangerous liar. Taw's point was that we ALL should follow the instructions of our own surgeons, NOT those of someone online who may nor may not be full of sh*t. That goes for ALL of us.

Whatever *I* might say about *MY* experiences is what I'VE lived through. It may not work for or be right for anyone else and their lifestyle/medical issues. If I suggest something that worked for me and may work for one of you, I would expect that you would ask your DOCTOR before blindly following my suggestion.

As for this being a support site, that's true, to a certain extent. However:

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about coming on this board and pretending to be someone or something that you are not

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about showing an attitude that only YOUR ideas, suggestions and experiences are valid, to the exclusionof everyone else's

-there is NOTHING "supportive" about telling anyone on here that their surgeon is stupid, ignorant or misinformed

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about calling anyone on here "stupid" (and that's a DIRECT quote, my dear) for following the directives of their own surgeon

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about posting lies, myths and half-truths that you are unable - or just flat-out unwilling - to substantiate

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about creating multiple personae on this site, and then using posts by your alter egos to support your own posts

All of the above - and many, many, MANY more have been shown by the person in question over the FIVE YEARS that I'VE been on this board. And any time that person's "facts", "statistics" or motives are called into question, she refuses to respond, blocks you or simply whines to the OH mods until they remove the post in question to shut her up.

If someone, including your friend, is expecting to come to a website - to ANY internet site - and find sunshine, rainbows, unicorns, lollipops and unwavering support one hundred percent of the time, they're better off unplugging their computer right now, because it ain't ever gonna happen, my friend.

WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD.

    

Banded 10 years & maintaining my weight loss!! Any questions, message me.

(deactivated member)
on 8/28/08 3:01 am - AZ
On August 28, 2008 at 8:56 AM Pacific Time, Bette B. wrote:
Assuming here that Taw's posting of a couple of days ago is what got your (yes) think-skinned friend so upset . . .

First off, unwad your panties and realize that her post was not to prove that she was "better" than anyone else. It was to call into question the integrity of a regular poster who, many people believe, is at best  harmless or - at worst - a possibly dangerous liar. Taw's point was that we ALL should follow the instructions of our own surgeons, NOT those of someone online who may nor may not be full of sh*t. That goes for ALL of us.

Whatever *I* might say about *MY* experiences is what I'VE lived through. It may not work for or be right for anyone else and their lifestyle/medical issues. If I suggest something that worked for me and may work for one of you, I would expect that you would ask your DOCTOR before blindly following my suggestion.

As for this being a support site, that's true, to a certain extent. However:

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about coming on this board and pretending to be someone or something that you are not

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about showing an attitude that only YOUR ideas, suggestions and experiences are valid, to the exclusionof everyone else's

-there is NOTHING "supportive" about telling anyone on here that their surgeon is stupid, ignorant or misinformed

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about calling anyone on here "stupid" (and that's a DIRECT quote, my dear) for following the directives of their own surgeon

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about posting lies, myths and half-truths that you are unable - or just flat-out unwilling - to substantiate

- there is NOTHING "supportive" about creating multiple personae on this site, and then using posts by your alter egos to support your own posts

All of the above - and many, many, MANY more have been shown by the person in question over the FIVE YEARS that I'VE been on this board. And any time that person's "facts", "statistics" or motives are called into question, she refuses to respond, blocks you or simply whines to the OH mods until they remove the post in question to shut her up.

If someone, including your friend, is expecting to come to a website - to ANY internet site - and find sunshine, rainbows, unicorns, lollipops and unwavering support one hundred percent of the time, they're better off unplugging their computer right now, because it ain't ever gonna happen, my friend.

WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD.

Bette...

Don't you understand?  None of that stuff matters!  It's okay to do all those things.  It is apparently not okay to call the person on their level of support, dishonesty, and lack of integrity.  It's okay to give out bad advice, it's okay to tell someone their sugeon is wrong.  It's not okay to point out facts.  Don't you know what true support is?

It's okay to accuse someone (such as me) that I did my own fills when I didn't.  It's okay to tell others that I kept my band so tight I lost weight quickly when in reality I did it the hard way with an unfilled band, diet, and exercise.  It's okay to spread untruths and flat out lies about posters here using a fake ID to do so.  It's not okay to call that person out and point out the error of their ways.

I just don't think you understand. ;o)

You know, I may well have a crappy writing style, I may well be blunt, direct, and to the point.  I may well be a lot of things but one thing I am not is dishonest.  Our little RN wannabe friend cannot say the same.

Bette B.
on 8/28/08 4:14 am
Oh, come on now! You know that's not true! SOME people get to do and say whatever they want, without any repercussions.

The rest of us either must sit quietly with our hands folded, never question authority, raise our hands if we wish to speak, and only speak when spoken too. That, follow the Reverend Jones into the jungle and drink our Kool-Aid.

BTW, could you do me a "solid" and give me a fill this weekend? I'll bring the saline if you bring the syringe.

    

Banded 10 years & maintaining my weight loss!! Any questions, message me.

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