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PNGmom
on 10/17/13 5:20 am - Port Neches, TX
Topic: Insurance question
I have been on the journey since June 2013. I have done all my nutrition classes, my 90 day waiting period, lost my 10 lbs that was required. I completed all that on Sept 18. Now I waiting on the insurance company for approval. How long did it take you to get your approval? I have Aenta insurance.



Thanks Rose
noftessa0401
on 10/17/13 2:17 am - San Diego, CA
RNY on 12/27/12
Topic: RE: Medically Supervised Weight Management Requirement - Cigna

I have no personal experience with Cigna, so I can't help there.  But ...

Aetna has the same requirement.  I did the 3-month multidisciplinary program.  It is imperative that you go for no less than 90 days - 89 days and you will be screwed.  I did something like 105 days just to make sure. 

Regarding losing weight and going under BMI, talk to your surgeon's office.  My surgeon's office submitted final approval to insurance based on my consultation weight - not the weight after I did the 3-month program.  So, even though I lost 40 pounds on the program and my BMI was 39.8 at the time of surgery, I was approved because the weight I was submitted on was 272. 

3 months is a long time to "fake" a program - meaning, following the plan, meeting with dieticians/doctors/nurses/trainers, and not lose weight.  Aetna just implemented a requirement that the patient must not gain weight during the program.  Apparently, you don't have to lose weight, you just can't gain weight. 

So, long story short (too late), call you surgeon's office and ask the insurance coordinator.

HW: 274 | SW: 232 | CW: 137 | Goal: 145 (ticker includes a 42 pound loss pre-op) | Height: 5'4"

M1: -24 (205) | M2: -14 (191) | M3: -11 (180) | M4: -7 (173) | M5: -7 (166) | M6: -8 (158) | M7: -11 (147) | M8: -2 (145) | M9: -3 (142) | M10: -2 (140) | M11: -4 (136) | M12: -2 (134) | M13: -0 (134) | M14: -3 (131) | M15: +4 (135) | M16: +2 (137)

Lucy S.
on 10/17/13 12:38 am
RNY on 03/18/14 with
Topic: Medically Supervised Weight Management Requirement - Cigna

Hi there! This is my first post, as I am just starting the journey towards weight loss surgery. I have done the research into my specific Cigna healthcare policy and they do cover weight loss surgery with some stipulations. The BMI requirement of 40 I meet, and the program I'm interested in meets the "thourough multidisciplinary evaluation" criteria.  The one criteria I'm concerned about is the 3 months of medically supervised weight management program. I have done so many diets and exercise programs I can barely count them anymore, but they were always supervised by a trainer at the gym or I kept track of calories with an online program - never a physician or registered dietitician. I have no problems going through 3 months of a program like this, but my BMI is right around the 40 limit (5'6" and 250lbs).  If I lose more than two pounds on this medically supervised program I'll fall under the 40 BMI requirement and be ineligible.  My question is, for Cigna's 3 month weight management program do you actually have to lose weight or just show that you've participated?  I really need this surgery or I fear I'll forever be in the cycle of losing 20-30lbs and gaining 40 over and over again for the rest of my life. Does anyone have knowledge or experience with this same situation that could offer advice?

 

Thanks!

- Lucy

redcinn
on 10/16/13 12:47 pm, edited 10/17/13 7:28 am
Topic: Empire Blue EPO coverage for gastric bypass
My surgeon has confirmed that my insurance does cover the gastric bypass surgery.

I have Empire Blue EPO plan.

I am wondering what the phrase below means in regards to the approval process since it does not specify a time period,

"AND The individual must have actively participated in non-surgical methods of weight reduction; these efforts must be fully appraised by the physician requesting authorization for surgery..."


hinderloves
on 10/16/13 12:20 pm - duncannon, PA
DS on 08/25/14
Topic: Aetna_ Excluded Weight loss surgeries UNLESS HMO APPROVED.

So my insurance Aetna HMO was excluded with no hope and now has 'unless HMO approved' tagged at the end of the sentence.  I would guess they would grant surgery as a medical necessity, but in those cir****tances would you still have to go through all the normal requirements or be able to just bypass with letters of medical necessities.

     I feel I have a strong chance of getting an approval.   I am 28 living with sleep apnea, have been using a CPAP for a few years, and as of August, having a DVT(Blood Clot) in my Right leg still on coumadin/lovenox regiment with PT/INR testings.  Also have pain with knees and have x-rays of bilateral arthritis.  Nothing but gyno issues, no longer having periods(not expecting), which is better than my periods of floodings.  I have a gammet more of issues reflux included. 

     Just wanting to see if anyone has Aetna with exclusion unless HMO approved and how it went. 

            I am going next Weds to an information session where I am sure they can explain all the insurance dealings.  Hoping for Duodenal Switch surgery...I really don't want to be 350 lbs. 

 

 

(deactivated member)
on 10/16/13 11:47 am
Topic: CareFirst BCBS of Maryland, Virginia, DC

I am hoping to have a revision and I was wondering if anyone had success with the approval process with CareFirst BCBS of Maryland. I know they cover initial bariatric surgeries, but I am not sure if they cover revisions. I called CareFirst and the representative did not know what a revision was, and ultimately told me that it had to be medically necessary. I have already started the process with my doctor and am scheduled to have an EGD, but I also want to be prepared just in case I am denied. Thanks in advance.

jennlg
on 10/16/13 5:00 am - Nashville, TN
Topic: Boyfriend filed bankruptcy last year, how can he finance surgery? :(
My boyfriend had to file for bankruptcy last year due to losing his job and insurance and then having to have some surgeries and hospital stays. He can't seem to find anyone to give him a loan. Does anyone know how he may be able to do this? Or does anyone know of a surgeon who offers financing through their office, or know how to find one? (not care credit as he doesn't qualify) please help....he really needs this surgery. He has a good job now but his insurance doesn't cover it.

    

uglymouse
on 10/16/13 5:00 am - newnan, GA
Topic: RE: Denied-for the second time

I have nothing but hugs for you. I have UHC, but we don't have to show 3 years of  medically supervised diets. We just need to do 6 months of supervised medical  diet. 

Linda K.
on 10/15/13 1:18 pm - Omaha, NE
Topic: Denied-for the second time

 

Denied by UHC-for the second time and for the same reason.  I don't have 3 years of medically supervised weight Loss under my belt.  I don't understand the denial.  I had a wonderful appeal letter and my doctor wrote to say this would save my life.  But-I am not upset on the denial so much as upset at how they did it.  The first appeal was to be done by a independent doctor in a related field.  You want to know what the doctor's related field was???? Cardiologist and thyroid specialist.   REALLY?????  How related is that????    I am so mad I could spit!!!!  How do I do this second appeal.  I tried to show I had all these years of trying to diet.  I showed on paper I had years of different diets, weight loss products, medications-but no!!!  This insurance states that it has to be 3 years consecutive medical supervised weight loss program.  What do I do???  I can't think, I can't feel anymore.  I am willing and ready for the fight, but I don't know if I will just hear the same answer again.  Anyone else dealt with this?  Any information would be helpful.

Thanks so much

Linda

    

        
Virgie Tschirhart
on 10/15/13 11:06 am - Midwest City, OK
RNY on 12/27/17
Topic: Revision from VSG to RNY - Going to my 1st appointments with Dietician & Psychologist

Hi Everyone,

I am so happy because I'm going to my first consultation with the Dietician and Psychologist tomorrow.  My doctor's office will turn in my packet to BCBS Federal after they receive the reports from these 2 appointments. As far as I know I do have the requirements for the revision.  The doctor is going to submit a medical necessity letter also.  Just thought I'd give you all an update.  

Virgie Tschirhart

Lap Band - 2008, Sleeve - 2009, RYN - 2017

Started Program Weight July 13, 2017 - 194.2

Before Surgery Weight December 27, 2017 - 185.0

Current Weight - February 2018 - 161.0

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