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kimfitz
on 3/5/14 10:16 pm
Topic: RE: Cigna Changed Diet Policy

Hi Lucy, Just wondering how you made out with Cigna. I also have Cigna and am at a 40 BMI, no comorbidities...also worried about losing weight on the 3 month diet. Afraid if I lose one pound that I will drop below the 40 BMI and not get approved. Hard to balance that weight, clothing can vary that weight by a pound or two. Ive been through this process once before about 6 yrs ago and dropped below 40 and was denied. At the time, the surgeon required a 10% weight loss, I know the criteria has gotten easier in the last few years and the surgeon Im considering now does not require it. Im nervous about going through the whole process again only to be denied. Just wondering how your process has gone with Cigna? 

noftessa0401
on 3/3/14 5:44 am - San Diego, CA
RNY on 12/27/12
Topic: RE: Who Do I Believe?

I am so glad you followed up.  That is awesome news!  Good for you!

I also would not *normally* suggest someone wait and see.  But, given that choice or the choice of giving up, what does waiting and see cost?  I agree being proactive is the best way to go - but sometimes, one just doesn't have the energy to invest in that.  

I'm glad you found the energy.  Yay you!

HW: 274 | SW: 232 | CW: 137 | Goal: 145 (ticker includes a 42 pound loss pre-op) | Height: 5'4"

M1: -24 (205) | M2: -14 (191) | M3: -11 (180) | M4: -7 (173) | M5: -7 (166) | M6: -8 (158) | M7: -11 (147) | M8: -2 (145) | M9: -3 (142) | M10: -2 (140) | M11: -4 (136) | M12: -2 (134) | M13: -0 (134) | M14: -3 (131) | M15: +4 (135) | M16: +2 (137)

Colleen O.
on 3/3/14 5:41 am
VSG on 04/09/14
Topic: RE: Who Do I Believe?

Thanks for the reality check, noftessa.  I definitely posted this in frustration.  I really did feel like giving up at that moment but I most certainly did not.  Just needed to vent. 

I did keep calling the insurance company and I did let them know I would file a complaint with the insurance commissioner if I did not receive a response to my inquiries.  I was immediately given the name and direct number for a supervisor.  Since then, I have received callbacks within about 24hrs of my messages.  I also continued to follow up with my surgeon's office once a week.  I finally got some kind of progress on Friday.  My insurance coordinator and I had a great phone call and I received all of the items in my file that was sent to the insurance company.  He had refaxed everything on Thursday and I faxed it again on Friday.  The insurance called me today and confirmed they had received everything, it was assigned to a nurse and being reviewed, and I should have an approval/denial in the next day or two. 

I really would not suggest someone give up or just wait and see.  Being proactive saved me two months of waiting to find out that nothing was received in the right place. 

  

HW: 387 (12/13)  ConsultW: 383 (12/13)  SW: 321 (4/9/14)  CW: 234.6 (10/19/14)

noftessa0401
on 3/3/14 5:22 am - San Diego, CA
RNY on 12/27/12
Topic: RE: Who Do I Believe?

While I understand this is a frustrating process, you are taking a rather defeatist approach.  You don't know what is going on, so you are just going to give up?  Why not, at least, let your surgeon's office handle it.  What's the worst that can happen - you wait the 90 days they tell you (of which you've already waited at least 30), they follow up, and realize that the paperwork never was actually received.  You are in no worse of a situation than you are right now.  

Or, you can continue to call the insurance company each day, tell them you know they have received the paperwork, and you want that confirmed by a supervisor.  If you are having problems with them responding to you, why don't you call your state's Department of Insurance to file a complaint, or find out what your rights are?

Yes, this is a nightmare.  Yes, it is frustrating.  Yes, it is increasing your blood pressure.  Yes, it is not fair.  But, let someone else do this job - your job is to focus on you.  

HW: 274 | SW: 232 | CW: 137 | Goal: 145 (ticker includes a 42 pound loss pre-op) | Height: 5'4"

M1: -24 (205) | M2: -14 (191) | M3: -11 (180) | M4: -7 (173) | M5: -7 (166) | M6: -8 (158) | M7: -11 (147) | M8: -2 (145) | M9: -3 (142) | M10: -2 (140) | M11: -4 (136) | M12: -2 (134) | M13: -0 (134) | M14: -3 (131) | M15: +4 (135) | M16: +2 (137)

noftessa0401
on 3/3/14 5:15 am - San Diego, CA
RNY on 12/27/12
Topic: RE: Applying Early For Approval

She probably wants to send it in now because there is a limit how far before surgery you can do a diet/exercise regimen and have it count towards surgery.  I believe with Aetna, that limit was no earlier than 2 years prior to surgery.  If you don't use it, you might lose it.  

Worse thing that can happen, as far as I know, is that they deny it due to the requirements not being met.  Then you would have to re-submit once the requirements were met.  I would be more worried about losing that 3-month program since it was so long ago.  You might have to do the whole 6 months over again.  I think it is something definitely worth looking into.

Good luck!

HW: 274 | SW: 232 | CW: 137 | Goal: 145 (ticker includes a 42 pound loss pre-op) | Height: 5'4"

M1: -24 (205) | M2: -14 (191) | M3: -11 (180) | M4: -7 (173) | M5: -7 (166) | M6: -8 (158) | M7: -11 (147) | M8: -2 (145) | M9: -3 (142) | M10: -2 (140) | M11: -4 (136) | M12: -2 (134) | M13: -0 (134) | M14: -3 (131) | M15: +4 (135) | M16: +2 (137)

Thinknthin
on 3/2/14 1:40 pm
Topic: Cigna question

I am wondering what everyone's experience has been with Cigna? 

How long of a wait did you have from the time your request for wls was submitted before you recieved a response?

any input? 

Thanks in advance 

pharmagirl_45
on 2/26/14 4:34 am - NJ
VSG on 01/14/14 with
Topic: RE: Applying Early For Approval

If your insurance company requires 6 month diet/exercise program, why would your rep want to send it in sooner?  If you haven't met all of the requirements, they will just deny you. 

Maybe she knows something different.  Good luck!

     VSG on 1/14/14 with Dr. Samuel Wasser

    

    
Colleen O.
on 2/26/14 3:52 am
VSG on 04/09/14
Topic: Who Do I Believe?

If you've read my previous post here in the Insurance Forum, you will know that I'm very frustrated with the approval process with my insurance company.  First of all, it is VERY difficult to get someone at the insurance company to return a call (the approval process for bariatric surgery goes through a special department where no one actually answers the phone - everything is done by voicemail).  For over four weeks now I have been receiving conflicting information from the insurance company and the surgeon's office.  When I do get a response from the insurance company it is always "we haven't received anything, have your surgeon fax us at.....".  When I talk to the surgeon's office I am told "we submitted everything several weeks ago and have followed up and they have it.  It is pending and being reviewed.  They have 90 days to respond and they will not acknowledge receipt due to liability issues"  It has been over 4 weeks.  I was given the impression that my insurance was one that responded very quickly with approvals/denials (per the nurse in the surgeon's office).  So, who am I supposed to believe??  Someone is obviously giving me bad information or lying.  I am about ready to just forget having surgery.  The whole process from getting my psych eval received at the surgeon's office to scheduling a sleep study has been a nightmare and very stressful.  I really just don't see the point in planning on surgery anymore....

  

HW: 387 (12/13)  ConsultW: 383 (12/13)  SW: 321 (4/9/14)  CW: 234.6 (10/19/14)

Colleen O.
on 2/24/14 3:08 am
VSG on 04/09/14
Topic: RE: So Frustrated with Insurance

Hi there.  No, I was not required to do the 6 month supervised program.  In fact, I was given the impression that my approval would be quick and easy.  The requirements were just PCP approval, a statement from the surgeon that my past attempts at weight loss were sufficient, and the psych eval.  I had everything completed early and stayed on top of having the psych eval sent to the surgeon's office.  My paperwork was submitted 4+ weeks ago and the insurance company is still refusing to acknowledge receipt when I contact them.  However, the insurance coordinator at the surgeon's office contacted them and they said it was received and being reviewed. 

  

HW: 387 (12/13)  ConsultW: 383 (12/13)  SW: 321 (4/9/14)  CW: 234.6 (10/19/14)

Sweetish
on 2/22/14 3:38 am
RNY on 12/12/14
Topic: RE: Highmark BCBS

Hi, I also have Highmark and if I were you I would request a copy of your bariatric portion on your policy.  Specifically the weight loss section.  You may even be able to view it online.  I think the website is www.highmarkbcbs.com

 

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