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on 9/24/10 12:26 am - Naples, FL
VSG on 09/20/10 with
Topic: RE: WLS prevents you from getting health insurance ???
On September 23, 2010 at 9:57 PM Pacific Time, Lucy van Pelt (formerly LetItBe) wrote:
 As of today I believe it is illegal for insurance companies to deny based on pre existing conditions ...
I'm 99.9% sure that's not correct.  And honestly, it should be that way.  If they made a law saying they HAD to insure you no matter what, no one would get health insurance until they got sick.
Nan2008
on 9/23/10 11:54 pm - Midland, MI
Topic: RE: Please read and give me advice!

Angie,

I have Aetna insurance and also did the 3 month Multidisciplinary program.  My daughter also has had surgery and so has a friend of mine, all of us having Aetna insurance.  I'm sure you have looked at their clinical bulletin 0157 for the 'requirements' .  If you meet those requirements, there should be no reason why you can not appeal and get this overturned.

In your denial letter, what is the reason they are giving you for denial?  I was denied, my daughter was denied, and my friend was denied.  I put together appeals on all three of them and eventually all three of us were approved. 

Basically what it comes down to is they hgave requirements, and if you meet them, you will get approved.  If you are denied, think of it as a bump in the road but don't give up!!

I will be glad to share the letters I wrote in our appeals.  PM me if you'd like.  

Again, read the denial letter and find out the reason they are denying.  Then, provide that information to them so the decision can be overturned.  

Nan 

Nan

HW 300
/ SW 280 / CW 138 /
GW 140
Hit Goal 4/2/2010

        
Nan2008
on 9/23/10 11:45 pm - Midland, MI
Topic: RE: DENIED BY AETNA ON APPEAL
What is their reason for denial?  They should have provided you with a reason of why you were denied such as lack of 2 year history of obesity, BMI did not meet requirements, etc...  What was their reason?

Nan

HW 300
/ SW 280 / CW 138 /
GW 140
Hit Goal 4/2/2010

        
Topic: RE: WLS prevents you from getting health insurance ???
 As of today I believe it is illegal for insurance companies to deny based on pre existing conditions ...
 Lucy van Pelt 
 Highest 255 Surgery 248 Current 170
Goal: 150
 

            
Topic: RE: DENIED BY AETNA ON APPEAL
 Oh I am SO sorry to hear this.  I'm really furious with the way this whole system works!  You have to work your ass off, pay the co-pays, attend a million meetings and appts NOT KNOWING if you'll be "approved" for surgery?!  It's nuts.  Your insurer should approve you if a doc says it's necessary.  Short of they you should be able to get a "conditional approval" based on completing your doc's requirements.  This really gets me steamed.

What are their reasons?

All I can do is hope for you and hope that your doc is very good at this.  Is there a dedicated insurance person at the office who handles everything?

Hearts and more hearts ...
 Lucy van Pelt 
 Highest 255 Surgery 248 Current 170
Goal: 150
 

            
BethR311
on 9/23/10 1:53 pm - Fort Wayne, IN
Topic: RE: WLS prevents you from getting health insurance ???
My understanding is that taking medicine for practically anything will get you either excluded from an individual plan or jack the rates so high you can't possibly afford it: allergies, migraines, high blood pressure, depression, etc.
WASaBubbleButt
on 9/23/10 1:38 pm - Mexico
Topic: RE: Please read and give me advice!
Bottom line here, if you have met each and every requirement they cannot legally deny you surgery. Sooooo, this is where you find your inner ***** and go for it. Fight for your surgery, fight for your life. If you want my phone number I'll PM it to you and I will do anything I can for you.

Fight the *******s.

Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
mrsconrad
on 9/23/10 11:03 am - Steger, IL
Topic: DENIED BY AETNA ON APPEAL
I can hardly type this, but I was denied again by aetna after an appeal showing 6 new, consecutive months of a physican supervised program done out of my surgeons office.

I dont know what I am doing wrong.  My doctor will do peer to peer, but i am so bummed.  I have applied for the surgery twice now (once in 07 and once in 10) been denied twice, and now denied on appeal.

I am so afraid that this assistance is not going to happen for me.  I am terrified.

Maria
WASaBubbleButt
on 9/23/10 9:46 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: Please read and give me advice!
On September 23, 2010 at 4:35 PM Pacific Time, Malg22 wrote:

After my first denial (the lady at the surgeons office said that the medical reviewer practically denies everyone) my PCP and that reviewer did a peer to peer and he requested my entire file-18 pages of info. Still denied it which was why it went back to East Ohio Conference. I don't know if they are self funded..but when I spoke with the lady at EOC she told me that she felt I should try optifast again...or a supervised hospital program...it just felt like it was her "opinion".

So, how would I request another peer to peer? Have my PCP contact the lady I spoke to at the East Ohio Conference?

I greatly appreciate your help.

And advice! I feel alone doing this!

Angie

 
Do you have any appeals left?

Exhaust your appeals explaining that you have met every single insurance requirement and if they deny you then get a 3rd party person in there.   State insurance, etc.

You can also opt to hire Walter... i forget his last name but I can get it for you.  It will probably happen sooner with him, but cheaper with the state ins.

When does your fiscal year end?  Could they be putting you off because benefits will change and perhaps WLS won't be covered?


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
Malg22
on 9/23/10 9:35 am - Tiffin, OH
VSG on 12/18/13
Topic: RE: Please read and give me advice!

After my first denial (the lady at the surgeons office said that the medical reviewer practically denies everyone) my PCP and that reviewer did a peer to peer and he requested my entire file-18 pages of info. Still denied it which was why it went back to East Ohio Conference. I don't know if they are self funded..but when I spoke with the lady at EOC she told me that she felt I should try optifast again...or a supervised hospital program...it just felt like it was her "opinion".

So, how would I request another peer to peer? Have my PCP contact the lady I spoke to at the East Ohio Conference?

I greatly appreciate your help.

And advice! I feel alone doing this!

Angie

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