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furiosmommy
on 12/26/10 11:40 pm - Phoenix, AZ
Topic: RE: UHC and a run around, anyone else?
I'm glad you finally got yours overturned, that's so crazy. That's sort of what was happening to me.... the paperwork had been sent 5 times, but she still didn't have it. I ended up calling and requesting that my case be assigned to a different nurse, I had to leave a voicemail. The next day I got a call saying I was approved. Now I hope the billing stuff isn't a hassle, I certainly do not have any extra cash. I don't have a date yet, but hopefully today. Good luck to you!
roxyroad
on 12/26/10 2:53 pm
Topic: RE: UHC and a run around, anyone else?
Oh yes.... I was done with my classes, labs and evaluations in October. A UHC adjuster first closed my file because they claimed my surgeon's office forgot a page in the fax of my weight history and the adjuster wouldn't wait another business day to get it. Random. So the next day, they had to open a second file for me with the completed paperwork re-sent...........and it took a full month to hear back, only for them to deny. If I had gone off what the generic denial letter said, I would have had no clue why. Thankfully, my surgeon called the UHC medical director to see wtf was going on. It was because they claimed that page on the weight history was still missing. My surgeon corrected them and had someone from the office re-send the same damn thing again and they overturned it. I got my official approval about a week later. They are seriously sketchy on the tracking of paperwork, in my exerience. Also, they made massive errors in billing my pre-op labwork and expensive (covered) tests. I had to correct them a ton of times. Just stay on it, and if you can get your surgeon's office (or better yet, your surgeon) to call them for you, that might get faster reaction.

 

 

Nan2008
on 12/26/10 9:23 am - Midland, MI
Topic: RE: Anyone have Aetna through UPS?
Hi  Kelli,

I don' have Aetna through UPS, but I do have Aetna.  I had my surgery in 2009 and all three of my kids had surgery in 2010!! (my two boys had surgery 2 weeks ago tomorrow!)  We were all approved through Aetna.  Two of us denied at first and appealed and got the denial overturned.  The two boys, both were approved at first submission.  We submitted their paperwork and were both approved within two weeks.

Nan

Nan

HW 300
/ SW 280 / CW 138 /
GW 140
Hit Goal 4/2/2010

        
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/25/10 11:49 pm - Mexico
Topic: RE: Tricare Prime North question
On December 26, 2010 at 7:47 AM Pacific Time, passionjess wrote:
Again thank you for your input unfortunatley I have to go with what my insurance covers.  The MTF on base dosen't do major surgeries and would refer me to the center I am going to anyways so RNY is what TRICARE covers and that is what I have to go with.  I have done a lot of research and I feel this is what is best. Again thank you for your input.

Have a nic day.

Jess
 
No, you do not have to go with what your insurance covers.  People appeal their surgery choices all the time and get the surgery choice they want.

But, you have to do what is right for you.  If you want RNY, go for it.


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
passionjess
on 12/25/10 11:47 pm - NY
Topic: RE: Tricare Prime North question
Again thank you for your input unfortunatley I have to go with what my insurance covers.  The MTF on base dosen't do major surgeries and would refer me to the center I am going to anyways so RNY is what TRICARE covers and that is what I have to go with.  I have done a lot of research and I feel this is what is best. Again thank you for your input.

Have a nic day.

Jess
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/25/10 12:48 pm - Mexico
Topic: RE: Tricare Prime North question
On December 25, 2010 at 5:50 PM Pacific Time, passionjess wrote:
Hello! Thanks for replying! My BMI is 61 and I was intrested in the RNY.  Thanks again for your help :)

Jess
 
I believe you should qualify based on your BMI alone.

May I ask you to rethink bypass?  For a BMI of 61 you'll want to lose quite a bit and usually bypass buys you about 100#.  You will only malabsorb calories for 6-24 months but you will malabsorb nutrition for life.  Bypass has a very high failure rate, regain is a buggar.

One of the big problems with bypass is that over time often the stoma dilates.  There is nothing holding food in your stomach so you get the satisfied/full feeling.  When this happens people are always hungry and always eating.  Considering after a couple of years you are no longer malabsorbing calories that is when the regain starts.  Bypass has a minimum of a 20% failure rate at the 5 year point.  Risks and complications are pretty darn serious with bypass.  They are finding seizure disorders, reactive hypoglycemia, malnutrition, bowel obstructions, ulcers, and all kinds of problems with bypass long term.  Reactive hypoglycemia is another reason for weight gain in bypass folks.  Those are not issues I would want to deal with.  Thing is, you can have a text book surgery with the best surgeon in the business and the most compliant patient in the world and you still can have major, significant, life altering complications.  Also, with bypass you can never take NSAIDs again.  No Motrin, aspirin, none of those drugs.  What will you do when you are old and arthritic?  You are left with Tylenol and narcotics for the most part.

Have you done serious research into the sleeve or DS?  Please just consider looking at all your options, you have to live with this surgery for the rest of your life.  Nobody else, just you.  Get the best surgery type for you.

Sleeves are the safest surgery type long term, DS is the most effective surgery type long term. No seizure disorders or much of the other nonsense.

Are you a sugar and high fat person?  DS is your best option.  If you are not a grazer but you just eat mega meals then sleeve is a better pick.  With a sleeve your stomach is just smaller, same weight loss results as bypass without the dumping, bowel obstructions, blood sugar issues, and you can take NSAIDs.  DS is kinda cool in the sense that you malabsorb 80% of fat, 50% of protein, and about 40% of complex carbs.  So if you eat a bowl of ice cream you'll malabsorb 80% of the fat but you will absorb all the sugar.  No surgery type fixes flour/sugar.

There is a person that is very well versed in DS and bypass, her ID is MsBatt.  I would track her down and PM her.  She's great at explaining the DS anatomy vs. bypass anatomy and she can explain even better why DS really is superior in every way to bypass.  And with DS (unlike bypass) you will malabsorb calories forever.


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
passionjess
on 12/25/10 9:50 am - NY
Topic: RE: Tricare Prime North question
Hello! Thanks for replying! My BMI is 61 and I was intrested in the RNY.  Thanks again for your help :)

Jess
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/25/10 8:13 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: Self pay - need advice
On December 21, 2010 at 11:25 PM Pacific Time, allvalerie wrote:
Hi Amy

I will be going to San Diego to a bariatric center of excellence with Dr Ellner. Finding a bariatric center of excellence might be something you want to look into. The cash cost there is $23,545. My Dr here in Alaska recommended me to her since i am a cash pay and its cheaper to go there then to have surgery in Alaska. I can give you break down of costs if you want. I know there are places much cheaper to go to - like Minnesota. My pre op costs have been about $8,000.

Valerie



 
A COE does not reflect on the skill of the surgeon.  Some of the biggest bariatric butchers are COEs.  It basically means that they filled out the right papers and paid their fees.

I'm not suggesting Dr. Ellner is not good, I've never heard of this doctor.  I just want to make sure you aren't picking someone based on COE affiliations only.


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/25/10 8:11 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: New Insurance
On November 22, 2010 at 10:09 PM Pacific Time, Markk7 wrote:
Hello,
My surgery date for the sleeve is set up for January 17, 2011.  I find out today we are getting new insurance as of 1/1/2011 which is Amerihealth.  Does anyone know if # 1 they cover the sleeve and number # 2 do I have to go thru all the work up and everything again?  I have Blue Cross right now.
Thanks
 
It is up to your employer if you have WLS benefits, not the ins co.  It is an additional premium for your employer.  Is it possible to get your surgery next week? ;o)


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
WASaBubbleButt
on 12/25/10 8:10 am - Mexico
Topic: RE: Tricare Prime North question
On December 22, 2010 at 1:31 PM Pacific Time, passionjess wrote:
Hello!

I was wondering if anyone has had the WLS surgery with Tricare Prime without going through a MTF.  I would like to know what the approval process was like.  I have no known co-Morbilities.  Not sure if I meet the 200% over my ideal body weight category.  I am 5'3 and I am suppose to be between 123-145.  Not really good with figuring this stuff out.  So if anyone out there can help me I would be greatful!

Thanks

Jessica
 
It really goes by your BMI more than anything and here is a BMI calculator:

nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm

MTF... meaning on base vs. off?  What little I know is that they will approve a sleeve ON base but not off.  I see a lot of people posting that they are unable to have that particular surgery type because of this but (and please someone, correct me if I am wrong) they will approve bands or bypass.

Most ins co's want you to have a BMI of 35 or greater with specific comorbidities or a BMI of 40 with or without comorbidities.

What is your BMI and what surgery type are you interested in getting?


Previously Midwesterngirl

The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.

See  my blog for newbies: 
http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
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