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wildfan
on 2/28/11 7:00 pm
Topic: RE: meeting high deductible
 True, but how do they know if you have met your deductible or not on the day of service if you don't tell them?  Not saying you are wrong, just saying that's how mine works.  I had to go to urgent care on Jan 3, and they took my card and didn't ask for a dime, and it says right on there "patient responsibility: 20% after deductible".  My bill came in the mail about a month later.
dmoore1162
on 2/28/11 10:02 am
Topic: RE: meeting high deductible
It's actually up to each provider as to when they bill you.  Some providers will ask for the money up front.  A participating provider with BCBS will know how much the BCBS approved amount is.  If they know you have not met your deductible, they may make you pay at the time of service.  This is their right. 
Delores Moore
it's never too late
    
dmoore1162
on 2/28/11 9:53 am
Topic: RE: BCBSM appeal question???
You have 2 years from the date of service.    The appeal process in on your EOB from BCBSM.  Why did they deny it.  What was your BMI and co-morbidities.
Delores Moore
it's never too late
    
wildfan
on 2/28/11 9:05 am
Topic: RE: meeting high deductible
 This is how my insurance works too.  thankfully I don't have nearly that high a deductible, mine is $1,500, then I pay 20% after that for the next $1,500, then the rest is paid at 100%.

With my insurance, and I believe most work this way, the clinic/hospital will take your card and copy it, and you pay nothing on the date of service.  They will bill your insurance, insurance will reply to the clinic and you that the balance has been applied to your deductible and that the whole balance is "patient responsibility", up to the point your deductible is satisfied.  After that they pay at thier rate (80%, 100% or whatever).  But ALL charges are at the insurance companies negotiated rates, so it is a benefit to you, even with the high deductible.  
slhobbs81
on 2/28/11 8:29 am - Goldsboro, NC
Topic: RE: meeting high deductible
Thanks for the quick response. That makes a lot of sense. So in your hypothetical situation that you mentioned will I have to pay that $75 at the time of service, or is that what the insurance will bill me?
sydclaus
on 2/28/11 6:58 am - Racine, WI
Topic: Champva Coverage/Denial(long post)
I had Roux en Y Gastric Bypass done the middle of November.  Prior to the surgery, I called my insurer, Champva, and was told that the bariatric center was also calling to verify coverage eligibility.When I called,  I was told that the surgery was a covered benefit if deemed medically necessary and that there were no comorbidities needed if the BMI was over 40 (mine was). The insurance verifier at the bariatric center then called and told me that the surgery was a covered benefit and I appeared to meet all the critera so I could move forward in the process. After I completed all my nut visits and saw the surgeon, the paperwork was to be submitted to the insurance company. My doctor's office called a week later and told me that Champva does not give pre-authorization and as such I would need to sign a paper saying that if they did not cover the procedure, I would be responsible.  They also told me that it was a formality and they saw no reason why it wouldn't be covered as I met all the necessary critera.  About a month ago I recieved a letter  from Champva to the hospital and myself, saying they had denied the hospital bill and asked that it be resubmitted with the history & physical and operating reports.  I haven't heard anything further, have never heard anything from the hosptial at all.  Then last week I got an EOB saying that the doctor's charges were denied as not a covered benefit.  I called Champva and after 30 minutes of them trying to figure out why it was denied when they thought it should be covered, they finally came back and said that it was denied because it was billed as code number 43645 and that is not a covered service, but I should check and see if perhaps it was a typo because 43644 is a covered benefit. I called the Dr.s office and they said, no it was not a mistake, it was billed as such because I have a limb greater than 150, making it a different procedure code.  They also kept saying that they didn't understand why the were saying it wasn't covered because Medicare pays for both and Champva normally pays whatever Medicare pays. I was never informed that the coverage was limited to a distal procedure and the doctor's office doesn't understand why they won't pay.  Now I am stuck with a $20,000 doctor bill and if they will not pay for that, then they will most likely not pay the hospital portion either, which is an additional $36,000!  Is there anything I should know that could help me? Is there anything I can do?  Appeal?  I am overwhelmed by this and I feel that somehow someone dropped the ball.  I don't understand if there were limitations, why neither the bariatric center or myself were informed of them.  Can anyone give me some advice on what to do next?
wildfan
on 2/28/11 5:40 am
Topic: RE: meeting high deductible
Yes, you show your insurance card.  Even though you have to pay the first $10k, that is how they track how much you have applied towards your deductible.  Also, most insurance companies negotiate rates with providers, so you get cheaper care.  For example (and this is just hypothetical), if someone walks in off the street with no insurance and asks for a routine physical, the Dr. may charge that self-payer $125.  You walk in and get the same physical with insurance, and you'll pay $75.  Same care, same treatment, and actually both of you are paying the bill, but one has insurance and the other doesn't.
cbohacz
on 2/27/11 10:03 pm
Topic: BCBSM appeal question???
Good Morning....

I have BCBSM, my VSG surgery was May 14, 2009.  I was told everything was covered, in January 2010 received an EOB saying I owed money, called the doctors office, was told not to worry about it, so I didn't....  just last week, Feb. 2011 received a statement from doctor saying I owe $2500.  What is the appeal process with BCBSM, is it too late?  Time limits, etc?

Thank you!
Nan2008
on 2/27/11 9:19 pm - Midland, MI
Topic: RE: Any idea how long Aetna takes to decide?

I have Aetna and myself and my three kids have all been approved through Aetna.  It took about a little over a week for the original decision.  My two sons were approved right away (within a week).  My daughter and I were both denied and had to appeal.  Once we filed the appeal, it took about 30 days to get the approval.

Good Luck!!

Nan

Nan

HW 300
/ SW 280 / CW 138 /
GW 140
Hit Goal 4/2/2010

        
April Greer
on 2/27/11 12:03 pm - Springfield, MO
Topic: Any idea how long Aetna takes to decide?
   Just wondering how long they take to get back to the Dr's office.  The request for my revision should have been faxed in Friday but it will be done tomorrow.  Naturally I want my answer yesterday.  Thanks for any insight.
April     
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