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Orrniks
on 2/16/13 1:12 am - NE
Topic: RE: How long does it take to hear back from United Healthcare?

I sure hope they only take 5-7 days....I cant wait. My surgeon will submit paperwork Monday or Tuesday and I hope to know by the first part of the following week....I am not very patient! (I too have United Healthcare) eekk Good luck everyone.



 

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noftessa0401
on 2/15/13 1:36 am - San Diego, CA
RNY on 12/27/12
Topic: RE: Self pay and insurance

This is a great post!  A lot of insurance companies with WLS exclusions exclude anything having to do with WLS, including hospital fees for stays.  But, if you don't try to get your insurance to pay, you could be losing out!

Thanks for the head's up!

HW: 274 | SW: 232 | CW: 137 | Goal: 145 (ticker includes a 42 pound loss pre-op) | Height: 5'4"

M1: -24 (205) | M2: -14 (191) | M3: -11 (180) | M4: -7 (173) | M5: -7 (166) | M6: -8 (158) | M7: -11 (147) | M8: -2 (145) | M9: -3 (142) | M10: -2 (140) | M11: -4 (136) | M12: -2 (134) | M13: -0 (134) | M14: -3 (131) | M15: +4 (135) | M16: +2 (137)

noftessa0401
on 2/15/13 1:20 am - San Diego, CA
RNY on 12/27/12
Topic: RE: anyone been approved by wal mart insurance for gastric bypass

Hm, I still don't read it that way, but it doesn't really matter, as each person's policy is different and whether WalMart insurance will pay on original submission or appeal is dependent on each person's benefits/plans they have.

HW: 274 | SW: 232 | CW: 137 | Goal: 145 (ticker includes a 42 pound loss pre-op) | Height: 5'4"

M1: -24 (205) | M2: -14 (191) | M3: -11 (180) | M4: -7 (173) | M5: -7 (166) | M6: -8 (158) | M7: -11 (147) | M8: -2 (145) | M9: -3 (142) | M10: -2 (140) | M11: -4 (136) | M12: -2 (134) | M13: -0 (134) | M14: -3 (131) | M15: +4 (135) | M16: +2 (137)

noftessa0401
on 2/15/13 1:09 am - San Diego, CA
RNY on 12/27/12
Topic: RE: Revision--DENIED!! What do I do now??

I, too, hate it when people tell me no.  Ugh! 

I think you have a plan.  I am not sure how to get your insurance company to do anything it is not contractually obligated to do.  So, as you outlined above, document everything to show them that they are contractually obligated.  And if that doesn't work, you could try to save the money and self-pay.  I know Mexico has some very good surgeons that do revisions and have very reasonable prices.

But I think you are on track by doing your plan first - you go!!!  Good luck!

HW: 274 | SW: 232 | CW: 137 | Goal: 145 (ticker includes a 42 pound loss pre-op) | Height: 5'4"

M1: -24 (205) | M2: -14 (191) | M3: -11 (180) | M4: -7 (173) | M5: -7 (166) | M6: -8 (158) | M7: -11 (147) | M8: -2 (145) | M9: -3 (142) | M10: -2 (140) | M11: -4 (136) | M12: -2 (134) | M13: -0 (134) | M14: -3 (131) | M15: +4 (135) | M16: +2 (137)

chimeraboo
on 2/14/13 8:33 pm - Raleigh, NC
Revision on 10/10/14
Topic: Revision--DENIED!! What do I do now??

Ok, so its not like I'm surprised.  I knew there was a high likelihood that I would initially be denied for revision.  The plan was to at least get the band removed (the Dr. was going to do the revision in 2 separate procedures to allow the stomach to heal) and try again with under a different policy next year (that way they wouldn't have to know I ever had bariatric surgery).  My current insurance company will not even approve a removal because I don't have any complications from the band and they don't feel I've tried hard enough to lose the weight.  (I used to feel that way too...but its been 3 yrs, and I still have diabetes and PCOS to contend with and its hard as hell to lose weight with these 2 particular conditions!!!).  I think I have a right to have the band removed if I no longer want it inside of me! Although I despise being denied, I'm not devastated or anything, but I do intend to give the insurance company a hard time until they at least agree to pay for the band removal.  How do I do that?

My surgeon's office, particularly the insurance coordinator is doing very little to help.  I asked for a peer-to-peer between the Dr. and the insurance company and all she did was try to assure me that that won't work because the insurance company believes I have been non-compliant.  I despise nay-sayers!  If I can't get them on board, I am going to another surgeon!  I think insurance companies use the non-compliant excuse to make people feel guilty about failing to lose weight with the band.  That's not going to work for me.  I have a two-fold plan.  One, I am going to appeal until I can't appeal any more, so I am going to see what advice I can get from the insurance forum.  Two, I am going to work the hell out of this band for 6 more months (or until they approve me, whichever happens first) and document everything (diet, exercise, fills, complications, and weight) myself (on a blog, so it will be time-stamped and they can't say I just made it up).  If this appeal does not work out for me, I am going to resubmit everything again in August/September.  At that point the non-compliant argument will be a moot point.  I also intend to keep seeing the psych and using the nutritionist as need be.  Hopefully I can at least get the insurance company to reconsider the removal.  If I can get that approved, then I will keep the removal in my back-pocket ****il the end of the year) so if showing compliance doesn't work, I can go back to my original plan of getting the band removed this year, and reapplying for bariatric surgery next year under a different policy.

bailey301
on 2/14/13 4:04 pm
Topic: RE: anyone been approved by wal mart insurance for gastric bypass
I don't think this is what they were asking. I am sure they know what their insurance will cover, the way I read ino it is seeing if they possibly would pay if appealed.
bailey301
on 2/14/13 4:01 pm
Topic: RE: Self pay and insurance
Wow. This is great information. My insurance will not cover the surgery either but never thought abt the hospital it covering. Thank you! Def. Going to check out.
laquita88
on 2/14/13 4:50 am - wilmington, DE
VSG on 05/29/13
Topic: Self pay and insurance

I just wanted to throw a thought out there with my personal experience on  2/13/13

 

So I am self pay however I will only be paying for the actual procedure for the surgeons' fee which is $7,000.00. After a big issue of me not having $16,100.00 to cover the facility fee (hospital). I decided to call the insurance company... They won't cover the sleeve but they will cover the hospital portion because it falls under inpatient.  So all I have to do is get a letter from my actual doctors' office saying   Prior auth for inpatient for surgery sent to insurance from primary care doctor and they will cover the rest except for my copay.. But I rather pay $400.00 a day vs $16,100.00.              So I don't know if anyone is going thru what I've just been thru but spread the word because this is really great for those who can get approved for carecredit credit card to take care of procedure and then insurance pay the rest

noftessa0401
on 2/14/13 2:16 am - San Diego, CA
RNY on 12/27/12
Topic: RE: United Healthcare Insurance

I am sure you will get a letter, but I would ask them specifically for the documentation in your policy (or certificate of coverage) that excludes WLS coverage for those under 21.  I see no mention of it in their online medical policy (Policy Number: 2012T0362P; Effective Date: December 1, 2012).  It might be listed in your specific policy or cert of coverage, but usually those 18 and over are covered.

This might just be them grasping at straws to try to deny you on the first go around.  I think your doc would likely be successful on his appeal - there are just too many studies showing the benefits of surgery, especially on the younger patients.

Good luck!

HW: 274 | SW: 232 | CW: 137 | Goal: 145 (ticker includes a 42 pound loss pre-op) | Height: 5'4"

M1: -24 (205) | M2: -14 (191) | M3: -11 (180) | M4: -7 (173) | M5: -7 (166) | M6: -8 (158) | M7: -11 (147) | M8: -2 (145) | M9: -3 (142) | M10: -2 (140) | M11: -4 (136) | M12: -2 (134) | M13: -0 (134) | M14: -3 (131) | M15: +4 (135) | M16: +2 (137)

brandojax33
on 2/13/13 11:54 am
Topic: RE: United Healthcare... conflicting info on requirements

So whats the deal with having to be 21. i got told that but i know a lot of people that have had it before they were 21

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