Need Diabetes Info For Insurance Appeal X Post

CaymanMaven
on 4/29/09 2:00 am - Coconut Grove, FL
I have had an insurance appeal hearing this morning where the UHC doc said he has not heard or seen any documentation regarding WLS affecting diabetes. Duh, I know.

The panel agreed to let me submit any documentation by this evening. Please send me any links you have, especially re VSG and diabetes. I don't want to leave out a thing.

Thanks in advance!

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Arkin10
on 4/29/09 3:51 am - TX
Just did a google search and found this article on MedicineNet.com.  I think this might possibly help you as it references a 2004 published study in the JAMA (Journal of American Medicine Assoc).  Good Luck

Diabetes Conference - Gastric Bypass and Diabetes

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Dr. Ruchi Mathur offers perspectives of interest on topics from the American Diabetes Association's 65th Annual Scientific Sessions (held in San Diego, California June 10-14, 2005)

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Listen now to Day 4, Gastric Bypass and Diabetes - from Dr. Ruchi Mathur who is at the diabetes conference in San Diego  (MP3 3.10min 2.90MB)

 

This is Dr. Ruchi Mathur at the American Diabetes Associations 65th Scientific Symposia. One of the topics today presented today that I'd like to talk to you about is the role of gastric bypass in the treatment of diabetes.

This was the topic of a 2-hour symposia this afternoon. Basically- there are 2 main approaches to gastric surgery for obesity: A bypass- also called a roux en y procedure, and gastric banding. The first avoids a section of the absorptive surface of the intestine, and the second seals of a large portion of the stomach making the functional portion quite small and easily filled.

Well- who is a candidate for these procedures? Usually patients with a BMI of over 40 or over 35 with health consequences that are obesity related. Does gastric bypass have any effect on diabetes? In a series of 1000 patients, 150 of whom had diabetes, 83% experienced resolution of their diabetes (defined by a normalization of A1c and coming of medications for diabetes) after the surgery.

What predicted success in these patients? In another study of 191 patients followed out to 5 years after surgery, a shorter duration of diabetes lead to a better A1c outcome, and a lower weight post operatively also lead to a better A1c. In this series, 80% came of oral medications for diabetes, 84% of those who stayed on meds after surgery reduced their dosing, 79% came off insulin of those still requiring insulin 90% dropped their dose. With regards to the gastric banding procedure, in a study of 66 patients, A1c dropped from an average of 6.3 preoperatively to 5.3 post operatively.

So- what does this mean? In a metanalysis review published in JAMA in 2004 the authors stated that there was resolution of diabetes in an average of 70% of patients after bypass, and gastric banding was also effective, though slightly less so.

The question is whether these effects are directly related to weight loss or a decrease in nutrient intake, or if there is another mechanism at play. This was enthusiastically discussed in much detail. What does all this mean to you? If you are an obese patient with diabetes, gastric bypass may help control your metabolic disregulation and your glycemic profile. However, these surgeries are not without risk nor are they without side effects. If you are interested in this option, bring it up with your physician (because chances are your physician won't). Physicians are notorious for not dealing with weight issues with their patients. Get a contact with a skilled surgeon familiar and well versed in these procedures for a full consult. Aim for a referral to an academic center that has a team of nutritionists, gastroenterologists, psychologists, and diabetologists to help with the perioperative period. And remember that lifestyle will still need to come into play regardless of any other treatment option for diabetes. Read and hear the next installment from the conference.

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maxs_mom
on 4/29/09 4:01 am - Auburn, WA
Hi!  You've got to be kidding me about the panel/doctor not having "heard or seen any documentation regarding WLS affecting diabetes"!!!!  Ummm, do they/does he not keep up with medical literature through JAMA?  Do they watch American Idol and realize that Randy Jackson is a Type II diabetic who had WLS and now has his diabetes under control via the tool and the lifestyle changes he made to maximize the benefit (if not, the little magazine in most doctor's office had an issue recently with him in the cover talking about this topic specifically)?   Are they playing dumb or are they really ignorant?  If this is a hoop, I'd tell them that you're not a trick pony and don't appreciate being put through paces in their show arena.  Ok, I will calm down now....breathe....breathe....all better now ~smile~


I went to JAMA and typed in diabetes weight loss surgery in the search field and was rewarded wth a number of hits.  Surely this panel/gentleman reads, or at least gives a precursory glance at JAMA, the Journal of the American Medical Association, because it is a highly cited weekly medical journal that publishes peer-reviewed original medical research.


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Review article

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 CLINICAL CROSSROADS:
Donald R. Coustan
A 40-Year-Old Woman With Diabetes Contemplating Pregnancy After Gastric Bypass Surgery
JAMA, June 4, 2008; 299: 2550 - 2557.
*......health care team to gravid women with diabetes. Gastric bypass surgery with subsequent weight loss is likely to ameliorate type 2 diabetes, and special attention must be paid...health care team to gravid women with diabetes. Gastric bypass surgery with subsequent weight loss is likely to ameliorate type 2 diabetes......
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 PRELIMINARY COMMUNICATIONS:
John B. Dixon; Paul E. O’Brien; Julie Playfair; Leon Chapman; Linda M. Schachter; Stewart Skinner; Joseph Proietto; Michael Bailey; Margaret Anderson
Adjustable Gastric Banding and Conventional Therapy for Type 2 Diabetes: A Randomized Controlled Trial
JAMA, January 23, 2008; 299: 316 - 323.
*......evidence suggesting that weight-loss surgery is associated with a 60% to 80% diabetes remission rate in severely...with comorbid type 2 diabetes as an indication for weight loss surgery. 35-36 In this study...Adult | Blood Glucose | Diabetes Mellitus, Type 2 complications...Obesity complications surgery | Remission Induction | Risk Reduction Behavior | Weight Loss...
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Rena R. Wing; Thomas A. Wadden; Mark Espeland
Surgical vs Behavioral Therapy for Weight Loss in Patients With Type 2 Diabetes
JAMA, May 14, 2008; 299: 2146.
*......BARIATRIC SURGERY| BEHAVIOR THERAPY| DIABETES MELLITUS TYPE...STYLE| OBESITY| WEIGHT LOSS| To the...behavioral therapy for weight loss in patients with type 2 diabetes. | Comment | Letter...Behavior Therapy | Diabetes Mellitus, Type...complications surgery | Risk Reduction Behavior | Weight Loss...
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Henry Buchwald; Yoav Avidor; Eugene Braunwald; Michael D. Jensen; Walter Pories; Kyle Fahrbach; Karen Schoelles
Bariatric Surgery: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis
JAMA, October 13, 2004; 292: 1724 - 1737.
*......percentage of excess weight loss was 61.2% (58.1%-64.4%) for...diversion or duodenal switch. Diabetes was completely resolved in...patients. CONCLUSIONS: Effective weight loss was achieved in morbidly obese...after undergoing bariatric surgery. A substantial majority of patients with diabetes, hyperlipidemia, hypertension......
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