Who is having a problem with night eating?

Jeffrey E.
on 11/24/10 12:30 pm - New York, NY
I am a RNY done Oct. 4th with Dr. Dakin at Weil Cornell Medical Center. My problem has always been night eating. Ever since I was a little kid I can remember sneaking downstairs at night in my mother's house to raid the refrigerator. That bad habit has stayed with me all of these years even into my post-surgery. Last night was the first time that I did not night eat. I did it by resolve and having a late night snack about 11pm. They I started to drink, drink, drink my crystal light all through the night. I kept **** bottle by my bed so that I would not have to go through the kitchen on the way to the bathroom. Well it worked last night. Let's hope for a second win tonight.

Does anyone have a night eating problem?
sjbob
on 11/25/10 11:21 am - Willingboro, NJ
Always have had one.  At 10 years post op it's still a problem.  Any eating between meals is a problem and will probably be a thorn in my side for life.  I sometimes resist the temptation to eat but I'm more likely to give in to it.  I try to prepare myself by having low fat string cheese (individually wrapped mozzarella), whole grain bread, and fruit.  I can have one or more of these and probably satisfy any cravings I get.  Head hunger is a separate problem.  I strongly advise against drinking at night.  A few sips may be necessary and I, too, keep **** bottle nearby.  I also keep Male guards ( I get them by a bag of 50 in Walmart) .They don't take the place of the **** bottle, but they do absorb drips following your night time urination.  I've had friends tell me that they are helpful for trips esp by air.  They are not designed to hold all of your urine, but they do catcfh the drips.

Jeffrey, I'd like you to join us over at the Men's Forum.  I mention it because many men don't even know it's there.  Anyone can read it but we ask that only men post there.  Bob
Jeffrey E.
on 11/27/10 3:14 am - New York, NY
Hello Bob,
It's so good to talk to another man about this. It seems that we are far out numbered by our sister folk. It is a relief to hear that I am not the only one that has a night eating problem. My whole life between 12AM and 6AM it feels like a mystical force grabs me in the middle of the night and compels me to eat. Like you said its head hunger and nothing else. I don't mean to take my personal responsibility away from it but that's what it feels like. Now I make sure to eat just before I go to bed and try like the dickens to resist any temptation to get up and go into the kitchen. The **** bottle at least helps me stay near my bed. I am not having the dripping problem though.

I am only about 7 weeks out and lost 44 lbs so far. One good thing is that 4 days after my surgery I was completely cured of my diabetes. My 30 days average is 108 and am off all meds like metaformin and insulin. Also I am not flop sweating like I was pre-op. This is great because I was really embarrassed to go to a business meeting looking like I just came from the gym. People used to ask me if it was raining because I was completly soaked with sweat out but no more. Now I even get cold which I never used to.

My weight loss for the first few weeks just flew off of me at about 1 lb/day. Now its about 1 lb/3 days. I hope that this normal. I try to schedule my eating times as much as possible and take 30 min to eat slowly.

Thanks for your good information. Please let me know how you are doing.

Best regards,

Jeff E.
sjbob
on 11/27/10 5:58 am - Willingboro, NJ
First of all, feeling cold is fairly common after WLS.  I thought it was just after RNY but I know other peol;e who have the same problem with other surgery types.  It's almost humorous in our house as I'm usually cold and my wife is hot ( to the point of sweating).  My problem is post-op and her's is female & age related.

Today I am doing fine.  I'm a food addict and haven't had any of my addictive foods today.  This is a major accomplishment and blessing because I haven't done this in about 18 months.  For today, I am trying to avoid my addictive foods an hour at a time.  I know most addicts are encouraged to live life a day at time, but right now that's too long of a projected time period for me to deal with.  However, I can deal with working my program for an hour.  Hopefully the hours will add up to become days and even longer periods of time.  I'm thankful for every hour that I don't have addicted foods.  Since I've known that I've been a food addict for over 30 years, I don't make predictions about how I will do.  I've been through many programs and have seen psychoanalysts, MSWs (insurers started paying them instead of psychologists about 20 years ago), and I'm currently seeing a psychiatrist for manic-depression.

Again, I encourage you to come to the Men's Forum.  It usually runs slowly.  That gives you time to read over past posts and respond to them.  Or, you can Contact some of the Men directly.  I've developed some special online friendships with other men since I joined ObesityHelp.com in July 2000.  At first, I sought out other super morbidly obese men since my weight prior to WLS was about 575 and I had a BMI in the mid 80s.  I knew then that my goal weight would be around the weight where most men start their weight loss journey.  Back then, I was told I could expect to lose the bulk of the excess weight in the 18 mos post-op and then I would have a bounce back of about 20% of that lost weight.  I later learned that we could continue to lose weight due to diet and exercise.  The men on the Men's Forum taught me that.  I have a lot of experience here on OH but I'm not the most successful loser.  I hold up men who have faithfully followed their programs as role models.  For a while I identified myself as an example of how not to follow the program yet I lost weight despite myself.  Sometimes my negative remarks about myself probably come from my depression.  I try to be kind and supportive of everyone who posts here.  I finally decided to extend the same courtesy to myself. 

Oh, by the way, you may find other forums that you also enjoy.  I have friends who met on the Sex before and after surgery Forum and are now considering marrying.  There are about 125 forums out there but only 1 restricted to Men, Bob
Jeffrey E.
on 11/28/10 4:54 am - New York, NY
Hi Bob,
I agree with you. Struggling with food issues is a one day at a time thing. I weight myself everyday just because of that. It helps me stay focused and on track. So far I am only 7 weeks out and have lost 44 lbs. I would like to lose 150 lbs all together. I started at 349 lbs and am now 305 lbs. Thanks for your advise. I will join the Mens Forum.

Best regards,
Jeff E.
SeanLB
on 2/3/11 3:44 am - WA
Jeff, Great to read your post. Looks like we are in a similar situation I started my journey 3 weeks ago at 344 pounds, lost 17 the first 3 weeks and just started my liquid diet with my surgery in two weeks. I have just this year realized that I am totally addicted to food, I don’t need it or want it but I eat it. It is the worst thing trying to kick it. As a successful businessman I have always thought I had the power to do anything, Glade I found this forum to find others to gain strength from and share experiences. Good luck in your journey..
Jeffrey E.
on 2/3/11 4:09 am - New York, NY
 Hang in there. In four months I lost 80 lbs and am off all meds. Metaformin and Insulin four days after surgery and now Lysinopril, Simvastin and Carvedilol. Being a successful businessman, which I am too, has nothing to do with being able to control this monster. Thank god for the surgery. I only wish I had done this years ago. Good luck...
L B.
on 12/13/10 8:33 am
Its aweful but I can wake up  and be half asleep and snack on something. Im so ashamed of that and Im not even hungry when I do it. I can control it most times but the URGE is so dang strong. :(
Jeffrey E.
on 12/13/10 11:05 am - New York, NY
I know what you mean but never be ashamed. I feel like some force grabs me in the middle of the night to eat something. It's never out of hunger. My wife calls it head hunger. I try to control it by eating before I go to bed and keeping Crystal Light by my bed to drink in the middle of the night. I also have a pee bottle by my bed so I don't have to go to the bathroom and pass the kitchen. Good luck with controlling the Monster!
kalifreya
on 2/2/11 4:21 am - Salisbury, MD
 Im glad Im not alone on this one, I night graze all the time! I even woke up one time with a port wine cheese ball package stuck to my pillow, and I dont recall a thing. the other night I ate all the baking chocolate (yuk) again I dont recall any of it. What we have had to do is put a small chain and lock on the fridge at night(around the fridge handles) and lock on a cabinet  with any snackables. I know its extreme but it keeps me from grazing because I dont have a key at night. It also helps my son who is a diabetic because he is just as bad at night eating. Its just a suggestion but it has worked for me.
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