"Water" Formula info ....from Ro
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on 10/3/07 2:10 am
on 10/3/07 2:10 am
Hi, All! Here's the cross-over info:
eNutrition Reply: Fluid requirements depend on MANY factors including your personal medical history, amount & duration of exercise done, outside temperature, fever, stress or illness. When we as RD's calculate fluid needs for patients, generally healthy adults are calculated at 40 cc/Kg. For example a person who weighs 150 lbs or 68 Kg x 40 cc/Kg = 2727 cc fluid per day/240 cc in an 8-oz cup = 11.3 cups per day or 90 ounces per day. I think this is a more accurate way of determining fluid needs versus a blanket number of ounces for everyone based on how far out a person is post-operatively.
2nd Inquiry: Hi, Melania! Thanks for the water calculation info. I am going to do the number now and also talk with my Nutritionist next week. I feel much better since I've added another bottle of water and my body seems to be adjusting too. The one-size fits all thinking that I've been looking for doesn't consider all of the variables that you mentioned. Do vitamin and mineral deficiencies also become variables?
I will be discussing my levels after Labs with my Nutritionist. I have a lot of confidence in the info that he has given me and am also glad to have your group involved on OH. Just in case you want an example of a deficiency problem... here's mine! "OH" (pun intended), You had to see that one coming! LOL Ro
Comment/Formula: DH helped with the calculations on this one. Here's the math on # for oz, for a generally healthy adults. WLS patients have different needs than the general populations, so I'm checking with my Nutritionist at next week's appointment. I'll update on the reply to my 2nd inquiry about vitamin and mineral defiencies role in water intake, when the info is available.
The Math...
Taking Melania's example of an 150 # person...we reversed the equation...and know that she used 2.20588 as her convertion number, which she rounded to 2.206.
It was easier to use the calculator's read-out than to "round" a few times so here's what we did:
150 lbs divided by 2.206 = 67.996
67.996 x 40 = 2719.85
2719.85 divided by 240 = 11.332
11.3 cups per day .... 11.3 x 8 oz = 90.661... approximately ...90 oz
SOOOOOOOOOOO....it's ....
weight (commando) divided by 2.206
using that number x 40 = .............
using that number divided by 240 =.................
which gives you the cups per day.... for oz per day just multiply (x...LOL) by 8.....= ........... oz, if you were a generally healthy adult , but you're probably not if you've had WLS! Hope this helps with the calculations. I'm so MI (Math Illiterate; not spatial too!)...Ro
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on 10/6/07 11:01 pm
on 10/6/07 11:01 pm
I KNOW!!!! The formula that eNutrition posted to my response on the Nutrition board seems to be in another language. Molly thought it was Greek... LOL The RD is using Kg; rather than lbs so that has to be converted first before the formula can be used.
The number 2.206 is the correct number to use to change Kg into the same amount of lbs that you weigh.
You have to divide your weigh by the number 2.206, which gives your weight in Kg.
You have to multiple your Kg weight x 40 cc, which gives the amount of water needed for your weight in the cc amount. The cc amount has to be converted back into ounces.
To change cc into ounces, you have to divide that rather high "cc fluid per day" number by 240 cc.
The amount on the calculator is in "cups" per day; not ounces. When you multipe the "cups" per day amount by 8, you get the number of ounces to drink per day... if you were a generally healthy person...without WLS.
Hope that this helps! Ro