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I read a few of the older posts and see that Jack and Lori are both intersted in Parelli. I have been using it for the last two years with my horses and it's great. First, something about me. I am 49 and live in NE Iowa with my wonderful hubby Mike. We have 3 horses on 5 acres. We have a 25 yr old leopard appaloosa mare Keno, a 4 year old bay National Showhorse filly Dixie, and a coming 3 yr old bay roan breeding stock paint (mostly QH) filly Duchess. http://hometown.aol.com/lesliebuscher/index.html I had horses growing up, rode anything and everything with no fear but found out that getting back into horses at this age was a bit scary. I don't bounce anymore, despite the fact that I look like a big old ball. I've been doing mostly ground work with the two fillies but now that I've lost 82 lbs, I won't have any more excuses not to start them under saddle. I've been to two Parelli tour stops and audited a few clinics with Parelli instructors. I have the old Level 1 program, the new Level 1 and the new Level 2. If you never learn more than the 7 games with your horse, you will be miles ahead in improving your relationship with your horse. Anyway, that's me and my horses in a nutshell but would love to talk to other people who are "natural".... take care all, Leslie

Hi Leslie, Cybill and Everybody, Hi, Cybill best of luck with your surgery on 1/23/06 and I love your picture. Also congrats on your regional win. I would be on cloud 9 to. Soooo awesome! 2006 your going to knock the judges silly. Hi, Leslie I have seen Parelli on tv what I saw looks so cool. I purchased some of Andersons dvd. Parelli and Anderson seem like they have alot of the same training theory. I hope one day to get the Parelli dvd. Good luck with your filly. Hey, Everybody how is everyone I just stopped by haven't been here in awhile. Still waiting on insurance to settle before I start my new life. I plan on submitting my paperwork some time in February. February is going to be interesting . We start our breeding program then, and I've been watching the mares for 3 months now, teasing, light theropy and lots of notes. I've never tought a colt to breed so again this should be very interesting LOL. I've got a good understanding of what I want and how everything should work but I know that nature has a way of doing it's own thing. LOL OO! Before I forget has anyone heard about the West Nile shot that Fort Dodge made? http://lost-foals-group.4t.com/index.html WARNING THIS WEB SIT IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. Just something to think about let me know what you think. By for now, Cheryl

Cheryl, There were a few consistancys that I noticed in that web site. #1) This was done when the first version of the WNV was out. #2) Nearly all accounts of these mares that had problems were given the vaccine AFTER they were bred and very soon into pregnancy BIG BIG BIG NO NO. Any Good vet knows that!!!! Cause of the period of the body producing the anitbodies needed #3) All the stories are from 02-03. Nothing recent. Also ALOT of them admit to giving the booster. I live in a area where WN could be a big problem. Shoot currently my horse lives on an island!!!! My vets specifically say you can give a booster but do not advise it. Cause like any vaccine it needs to be given BEFORE the virus season, NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT!!!! Which is when a booster would be givin. Thus why my mare gets it in Mid March to the Begining of April. I wouldnt doubt that this stuff happened one bit, but I aint finding a reason to not give my mare that vaccine. I know many breeders and they havent had a problem what so ever but ALL of their horses are vaccinated BEFORE they are bred. Which is the smarter thing to do if you ask me anyway. They havent had a a bad foal yet and they kick out close to 50-60 foals a season. But thats my opinion on that take. But people find a reason to complain about everything these days. Some of these cases could have easily been "*******" cases also. Where the horse was already exposed, and was givin a vaccine, and that causes SERIOUS problems. Happens alot cause sadly we have vets out there that are so BOOK oriantated they dont think outside the box. I know of 2 vets in my area that are like that, one gave a whole barn a vaccination for strangles AFTER being exposed, Well needless to say there were ALOT!!!! of sick horses and a couple lost foals. And this vet did this at 2 barns I am aware of. So really this all cant be bamed on a vaccine. All products have there ups and downs and some may have reactions , just people need to realize things happen. And to pay attention more to timing and other surroundings in my opinion. But on another note, Im doing great , so im my mare actually have to leave to get her hooves donw now. Cya *~*Nicole*~*

Nicole, I have a close friend of mine gave the west nile vaccine to her mare after the mare had a filly, that was three years ago. This same mare was bred the next year with no results. Then bred her last year up till late April. She has sence not had a live foal. This mare was preg. checked 20 days after each breeding and was confirmed by ultrsound pregnat. All pregs. slipped but the last one Vets decide to use regamate or some drug to hold the pregnancy. We're all await the result to see if the foal is normal. After all of this I started searching for answers and that's when I found the web site. I did not give our horses that vaccine because we breed alot or have in the past and did not have the money for our horses to get the vaccine. We do use alot of home made fly spray. But then I do live in a very dry state. Thank God Good to talk with you again. We should all come up with a day and time and chat on line. What do you think? by for now Cheryl

Hi Jack, I haven't tried to pass any of the levels yet but my husband and I have been using Parelli for over a year now and we are very happy with the results. I've also been on a Yahoo group for Brent Graef who started with Parelli but now is on his own out in Texas. He has more feel for horses than anyone I've talked to yet. His help and advise are a great addition to our Parelli training since we can email him directly. Check out his web site www.brentgraef.com or join his Yahoo group. I'm no expert but ask away and I'll try to help in any way that I can. My husband finally rode his NSH filly on Sunday with just a halter and leadrope for about 20 minutes. Then a neighbor stopped by and lit his pipe and she did a few crowhops with him and he slid off onto his butt. I just knew we should have ended the ride as soon as we saw the neighbor's truck. Oh well...live and learn. We have had this filly since she was 9 months old and she's 4.5 now so this is her year to be started. I read about your accident on your profile where you injured your collarbone. Ouch! Leslie