RNY forum

You'll find a lot of the VSG vets got to goal being minimally active. The rules they quote are what worked for them.  In fairness, many if not most of the people who have WLS are minimally active and the 'rules' are pretty much what they need to follow in order to lose and eventually maintain. Most will generally refer VSG'ers with serious questions about sports-nutrition post-VSG to MacMadame. 

I'm a very direct person, and I don't make a habit of telling people what they want to hear just to make them feel better. I do try to be tactful -- particularly online where there's no expession or nuance.  Let's face it, though,  a lot of the folks on OH have serious issues that surgery isn't going to fix.  You see it in the 'OMG, I HATE MYSELF FOR EATING THING' posts along with the "I LOST WEIGHT AND HAD PLASTICS SO NOW I CAN DRESS LIKE A HOOKER" photos. They're two-sides of the same self-loathing coin. 

 Agreed Andrew totally. I am so glad, that I was introduced to this board, and the great people like yourself, that help me learn. I guess the vet would have a fit knowing I eat crackers and peanut butter just about every night as a snack, and I still lost 4 pounds this week from all my running and exercise.

Like you all I choose to be an athlete the rest of my life, not a couch potato.

Thanks to everyone here.

This is the only place I go to on OH, for these reasons alone. I am not one to give up on people, but I have given up on the RNY forum, many of them are snaky and have not so nice things to say when I reveal the types of foods I eat. I tried to motivate those people by telling my ironman story, but the large majority just didn't care. With this surgery, I feel like my life was saved twice, the first time when I underwent the surgery, and the second time when I found this forum.

My bariatric clinic will not allow me to lead support group meeting because they don't want to the pre-ops to feel like they have to do what I did, bummer.

Wow, that's weird. My support group is very proud of me and they tell all the newbies I'm an Ironman if I don't do it when we do introductions!

It can be weird on the other forums when people talk about what they eat and I feel like I can't talk about what I eat because people will get the wrong idea. For example, a lot of people think they needed to have a pre-workout snack and a recovery snack and sip on Gatorade in order to do their 60 minutes of zumba and that's not necessary at all. But they are looking for an excuse to eat more.

But I just keep my mouth shut and take what I need from it and give what I can.

i quit going to official support groups b/c they called me out on being so active -- I'm "not the norm" and kinda shunned me. This was at vets group and most of those have significant regain. Coincidence?

I now meet with a small group of ladies independently.

 Interesting Jillian, just goes to show different areas different ideas. The support group that Paul and I go to point Paul and myself out when we go to the meetings. Agreed, they let thhem know that you don't have to do what we do to be successful, but you can.

I am the crazy one in all the groups I go to.

I have constantly felt bad at the RNY Forum because I don't adhere to the generally established "rules" there, so I stopped reading there.  I am up to 1600 calories most days and I work out about ten hours a week.  Not to the extent that some of you do, but I weight train four days a week and do cardio six days a week, in addition to karate classes three nights a week that are usually an hour long work out.  I was at 1200 calories a day at five months out - and I lost weight up until about a month ago.  I am 11 pounds from my goal and worried because I'm not losing, but I think cutting my calories and carbs will just render me with less than useful workouts energy wise.  I hope that if I keep doing what I am doing the weight will eventually come off.  I am 5'10 so I feel 155 is a reasonable goal for me and I am eleven pounds from that.

I ended up deleting my account there because of some of the commentary, but made another one so I could continue to read here and at the plastic surgery forum. 

I have quit participating on the board and at the local support group meetings.  Nobody like the truth, they all want to be comforted.  It's OK that you ate that family sized pizza, you are a good person and gosh darn it we all like you.

I have tried several times to get people motivated and moving, but they still see exercise through the eys of fat people and they all fear it.  Exercise = work and they don't want to do it.  They would much rather sit on the couch than to get moving.

I have tried at the local meetings to get a walking or c25k group going the problem was consistency, people would show up one week then miss a couple weeks and of course they hadn't done any work on their own.  The would be disappointed that they couldn't keep up and they would never show up again.

And when it comes to food, it isn't just the nay sayers, but the nutrionists as well.  They just don't seem to understand what is needed.  I quit going to the one provided by the hospital.  She couldn't or wouldn't give me a calorie or food goal to sustain me for the endurance lifestyle.  She wanted me eating less than 1000 calories a day, and I was at the time running almost every day and doing brick workouts 2-3 times a week with some swimming thrown in.  Her respons was if I wanted to keep losing weight I had to keep the calories down.  Even after telling her that I had hit my goal weight, had no interest in losing more and that I was burning more calories than she had me eating, she just couldn't get behind helping me with something that was outside of her little box of knowledge.

I guess I shouldnt tell them that I eat 4000-5000 calories a day, 700-800G of Carbs a day and have maintained my 200 pound weight loss for 4 years doing it...

I think sugar free pie, protein bars loaded with sugar alchohols, low fat cheese, and the other plethras of nasty "BARI-FRIENDLY" products are a much better way to go. My favorite saying... "I am on a diet... It's called running" I eat what I want, PERIOD!!! IT's FUEL!!! Other people on other forums do too, unfortunately, they dont excercise and eventually migrate to the Rants & Rave board, or the weight regain, or revision boards.... This is the OTHER movie that Lion King was talking about "The Circle of (TYPICAL Bariatric) Life".