I need big time help with nutrition for long runs
I am having big problems that are really discouraging me. I know my nutrition must be really out of whack. Not so much nutrition on the long run as much as nutrition that morning and possibly even days prior. I know everyone is different, but I would like to know what some of you are doing. I dont really dump on anything, so all suggestions will be helpful.
My problem is GI issues during the run. Today I was scheduled for a 9 mile run. Like an idiot, I ran on the highway out in the country. I live in fam country. Just empty fields, no trees or even houses on this route. That was my biggest mistake. I had my usual breakfast of a whole wheat English Muffin with peanut butter and sugar free jelly. This is the same thing I have ate before with no troubles so I wonder if my meals the days before are getting to me. Anyways I took off on the route and about 2 miles into I felt it coming on. I should have turned around, but I felt I was just being a baby so I pushed on. Then at mile 4 had I gone any farther, I would have had a huge accident. I walked as gently as I could the 3 miles to a restroom.
I cant keep doing this. This is my 2nd week in a row. I am going to rerun this workout tomorrow morning at Golds on the dreadmill. Dont mind running on it too much for speed workouts and short recovery runs, but for long runs I hate it. I will stay on that till I figure out my GI issues. Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
My problem is GI issues during the run. Today I was scheduled for a 9 mile run. Like an idiot, I ran on the highway out in the country. I live in fam country. Just empty fields, no trees or even houses on this route. That was my biggest mistake. I had my usual breakfast of a whole wheat English Muffin with peanut butter and sugar free jelly. This is the same thing I have ate before with no troubles so I wonder if my meals the days before are getting to me. Anyways I took off on the route and about 2 miles into I felt it coming on. I should have turned around, but I felt I was just being a baby so I pushed on. Then at mile 4 had I gone any farther, I would have had a huge accident. I walked as gently as I could the 3 miles to a restroom.
I cant keep doing this. This is my 2nd week in a row. I am going to rerun this workout tomorrow morning at Golds on the dreadmill. Dont mind running on it too much for speed workouts and short recovery runs, but for long runs I hate it. I will stay on that till I figure out my GI issues. Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
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I can truly sympathize with you. That's one of the main reasons I do all my training on the treads, and most of my long races are big and have lots of porta-potties. The only thing that I've found to help is eating light and avoiding fruits and veggies (especially fresh ones) the day before a race or long run. It's still no guarantee for me though.
Another thing I do is drink coffee (a cup or 2) to get things moving and make sure they have BEFORE I go to the gym. Most of the time that helps, but I still have times that I have to stop and use the potty and get back on. Sometimes only once, others up to 3 times in 10 miles.
Another thing I've found is that when I increase the intensity, I also have increased urges until my body gets used to the faster paces.
I wish I could help you, but I've struggled with this for about 5 years now and these are the only things that I've found that help me at all.
Linn
Another thing I do is drink coffee (a cup or 2) to get things moving and make sure they have BEFORE I go to the gym. Most of the time that helps, but I still have times that I have to stop and use the potty and get back on. Sometimes only once, others up to 3 times in 10 miles.
Another thing I've found is that when I increase the intensity, I also have increased urges until my body gets used to the faster paces.
I wish I could help you, but I've struggled with this for about 5 years now and these are the only things that I've found that help me at all.
Linn
On October 3, 2009 at 10:38 AM Pacific Time, Linn D. wrote:
I can truly sympathize with you. That's one of the main reasons I do all my training on the treads, and most of my long races are big and have lots of porta-potties. The only thing that I've found to help is eating light and avoiding fruits and veggies (especially fresh ones) the day before a race or long run. It's still no guarantee for me though.Another thing I do is drink coffee (a cup or 2) to get things moving and make sure they have BEFORE I go to the gym. Most of the time that helps, but I still have times that I have to stop and use the potty and get back on. Sometimes only once, others up to 3 times in 10 miles.
Another thing I've found is that when I increase the intensity, I also have increased urges until my body gets used to the faster paces.
I wish I could help you, but I've struggled with this for about 5 years now and these are the only things that I've found that help me at all.
Linn
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What is your nutrition like a couple days before your long run?
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On October 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM Pacific Time, DANCBJAMMIN wrote:
What is your nutrition like a couple days before your long run?
Dan,
It changes from time to time, except breakfast. Breakfast is usually a bowl of oatmeal and an English muffin. A typical lunch can be a turkey sandwich on whole wheat and then dinner could be a chicken breast and a salad or hamburger helper and green beans. I know I take in quite a bit of fiber, but like I said, it never bothered me before. I could go 5-8 miles no problem. Now 2 is a struggle. Not endurance wise, just GI wise. I am going to continue to experiment but it will have to be on the dreadmill.
It changes from time to time, except breakfast. Breakfast is usually a bowl of oatmeal and an English muffin. A typical lunch can be a turkey sandwich on whole wheat and then dinner could be a chicken breast and a salad or hamburger helper and green beans. I know I take in quite a bit of fiber, but like I said, it never bothered me before. I could go 5-8 miles no problem. Now 2 is a struggle. Not endurance wise, just GI wise. I am going to continue to experiment but it will have to be on the dreadmill.
Tri Daring Greatly! www.tridaringgreatly.com
I will no longer be a spectator, a dreamer, a wonderer. I AM a doer; not only a goal setter, but a goal achiever. I will lead by example rather than word. I will "DARE GREATLY!"
I will no longer be a spectator, a dreamer, a wonderer. I AM a doer; not only a goal setter, but a goal achiever. I will lead by example rather than word. I will "DARE GREATLY!"
I would ay to lay off the wheat and such and I would eat a banana the night before and the morning of. Bananas help to plug you a bit and might help you hold "It" together. It's all going to be trial and error, man I feel for you. Keep working on it and it will be ok. If you go into every run thinking you are going to be "Brown-Capping" the whole way, you probably will. If you trust your nutrition and dont worry about it, you will be ok. A little mind over matter maybe...
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Darrell,
One strategy that I've used to deal with my GI issues is to down a gel immediately upon waking. The gel, along with my coffee, usually empties me out so I don't have an emergency on the road. Like Linn, I tend to have more issues when I pick up the pace, especially if it's exceptionally hot.
Cassie
One strategy that I've used to deal with my GI issues is to down a gel immediately upon waking. The gel, along with my coffee, usually empties me out so I don't have an emergency on the road. Like Linn, I tend to have more issues when I pick up the pace, especially if it's exceptionally hot.
Cassie
"Hard things take time to do. Impossible things take a little longer."
I woke up this morning for my Half-marathon race and I knew I had to go but I didn't drink enough water the day before and I just couldn't. So, you guessed it, I had to make a porta-potty stop during the race.
It wasn't so bad, but after I finished, my intestines went nuts, like I had the flu. I was afraid to drive home! LOL
So... my recommendation is to drink lots of water the day before a long run so you can go. Then, try to time your run for *after* you go. If you are a 1x a day person, this is easier than if you are a "random times not under my control" person like me.
I've decided to just accept that this happens to me and plan long routes to have places I can stop and go.
It wasn't so bad, but after I finished, my intestines went nuts, like I had the flu. I was afraid to drive home! LOL
So... my recommendation is to drink lots of water the day before a long run so you can go. Then, try to time your run for *after* you go. If you are a 1x a day person, this is easier than if you are a "random times not under my control" person like me.
I've decided to just accept that this happens to me and plan long routes to have places I can stop and go.
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My solution after 30+ races of hit and miss gastric funhouse events is:
1) pure honey packets exclusively on the bike and run.
2) a scrip of Welchol. Welchol is a drug that is prescribed to people with high cholesterol. My doc gave me a scrip to try to help me get my GI issues under control. It binds to the bad stuff in your gut and slows down digestion. It worked wonders fo me as I haven't had ANY gastric events in all of my races this year.