RNY wt gainers only; I have a question
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on 6/29/10 9:19 pm, edited 6/30/10 1:40 am - Menomonee Falls, WI
on 6/29/10 9:19 pm, edited 6/30/10 1:40 am - Menomonee Falls, WI
I had a 2 oz pouch, a 25mm stoma hole punch and my surgical report says 100 cm bypass. My labs are normal to high with a flinestone vitamin. At 1 year out I was only able to keep off 14 lbs. so I was part of the Restore trial. At that point I went to a gastroenterologist and my stoma was 25mm and he said my bypass was not less than 70 cm. I am constantly hungry since 8 weeks out and I never felt like I have eaten anything. 2 days post op I drank without a problem and ate 3 oz of pureed food and didn't feel any fullness. i knew something wasn't right because most people are swollen at that point. I have never vomited or dumped. I have struggled off more weight a couple of times but it comes back on quickly. I have high and low blood sugars. My enocrinologist thought it was from food rushing into my system increasing my blood sugar and then crashing down. I measured it once and it was 216 after a healthy lunch and then 73 thirty minutes later. It was 360 after a meal one day last week so it is a continual battle. I have to eat 6 to 8 meals a day and I can't get by with 1200 calories like other RNYers. I exercise daily and have completed 2 triathlons, 3 5Ks and a bike-a-thon in the last 2 years. I have asked your question many times since my RNY failure because 20 % of people fail RNYs. I don't feel like I have any less self control than others. I don't eat junk food most of the time, but without limitations from the surgery I do lose it big time once in a while. That is why I had the surgery in the first place. I have heard of 40 cm to 250 cm bypasses, 1/2 to 3 oz pouches and many size stoma hole punches and types of stomas. I would love to read the table which guides surgeons on what surgery to do on which patient. I am pretty sure it depends on the weight the day of surgery. I think it should include the highest weight and medical history such as family background, PCOS and diabetes. My family is huge, I kept off 75 lbs. before surgery, I have both PCOS and diabetes. I needed all the help I could get! Don't worry you would know by now if your surgery was failing you. What were the specifics of your surgery? thanks, Daisy
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on 7/14/10 11:05 am
on 7/14/10 11:05 am
I do not have good things to say about my surgeon except to say he is good at surgery. I have 150 cm bypass with a 2 ounce pouch and a stoma the size of a postage stamp (I am not sure if that is air mail or domestic but that is what he said)
I have dumping and nausea and all that kind of stuff. I weight everything and a meal is 4-6 ounces. I have never exercised because of arthritis, I just can't do it. My concern is that I am over a year out and I can not lose the 100 pounds I needed to lose. I know that sounds vein but I really want to get out of the over weight group and in normal weight group. Others seem to lose the weight so easy. I guess I am trying to figure out if the amount of bypass has any significant effect on the weight loss. Or the people who lose all the excess weight in the first 6 months do they have more wt regain then if it takes 18 to 24 months. I don't know what I mean, I am grasping at straws here. Take care and I hope you find success.
I have dumping and nausea and all that kind of stuff. I weight everything and a meal is 4-6 ounces. I have never exercised because of arthritis, I just can't do it. My concern is that I am over a year out and I can not lose the 100 pounds I needed to lose. I know that sounds vein but I really want to get out of the over weight group and in normal weight group. Others seem to lose the weight so easy. I guess I am trying to figure out if the amount of bypass has any significant effect on the weight loss. Or the people who lose all the excess weight in the first 6 months do they have more wt regain then if it takes 18 to 24 months. I don't know what I mean, I am grasping at straws here. Take care and I hope you find success.
If you started out needing to lose 100 pounds, and you've got 18 to go, that means you've lost 82 pounds, or 82% of your excess weight---which makes you a real success story! (Anyone who loses 50% of their excess weight is considered a 'success' in WLS. The 'average' maintained excess weight loss with the RNY is 65-70%.)
But if your stoma is as big as a postage stamp, it's waaay too big! It should be the sixe of the end of a pencil eraser. That's also contributing to your dumping and over-eating.
Many doctors think that initial weight loss is far more dependant on restriction than on amount bypassed/malabsorption. Amount bypassed/malabsorption is more of a factor in maintaining that weight loss.
But if your stoma is as big as a postage stamp, it's waaay too big! It should be the sixe of the end of a pencil eraser. That's also contributing to your dumping and over-eating.
Many doctors think that initial weight loss is far more dependant on restriction than on amount bypassed/malabsorption. Amount bypassed/malabsorption is more of a factor in maintaining that weight loss.
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on 8/9/10 8:02 pm
on 8/9/10 8:02 pm
I had a proximal RNY - with an extra large pouch i stupidly asked for so i could eat teh salads and homegrown organic veggies i love .
I was an extreme lightweight going into surgery with a lifelong overeating addiction ( somehat controlled ) a huge hiatal hernia issue and diabetes and severe metabolic syndrome.
Unlike many overweight people I also exercised regularly and strenuously even as a two hundred pounder ... so I was in pretty good physical shape going in .
I lost 100 lbs without much ado in the first six months ...but am at ten months now and cant get any more off to save my life .
I do graze quite a bit ... I also eat more calories than most in the liteweights forum .... but they are fat free calories and i feel i need them to perform daily creatively at my best . Im thinking about therapy or making daily OA meetings or maybe even writing my OA steps again to ratchet down my intake.
In the past when i DID write the steps my binging urges radically went down PERMANENTLY .
I was an extreme lightweight going into surgery with a lifelong overeating addiction ( somehat controlled ) a huge hiatal hernia issue and diabetes and severe metabolic syndrome.
Unlike many overweight people I also exercised regularly and strenuously even as a two hundred pounder ... so I was in pretty good physical shape going in .
I lost 100 lbs without much ado in the first six months ...but am at ten months now and cant get any more off to save my life .
I do graze quite a bit ... I also eat more calories than most in the liteweights forum .... but they are fat free calories and i feel i need them to perform daily creatively at my best . Im thinking about therapy or making daily OA meetings or maybe even writing my OA steps again to ratchet down my intake.
In the past when i DID write the steps my binging urges radically went down PERMANENTLY .