sugar free candy is not low carb !! misunderstandings.misinterpretations

 I wonder how many  WLS  "failures " are caused by misunderstanding /misinterpretation of the "low carb  lifestyle "  which .handled without precise carb control is simply a ridiculously FATTENING high fat diet !!  

I just read a wildly popular post of "better than sex" sugar free chocolate pie recipe that the writer and the responders all claimed as low carb - because it was made with sugar free chocolate chips !!  HELLO!!!  

The funny thing was EVERY SINGLE PERSON *****sponded that they were going to make the recipe was LARGE - even by the standards of this site  !! 

I would argue that larger people have "fat teeth " and that "white carbs" are NOT the enemy but  FAT certainly is . Extra fat will certainly get you a lot fatter a lot quicker than plain fat free sugar or bread .

I had a RNY six months ago . I am now a size 0 and look great in a bikini . I eat fat free carbs all day long . 

I think the key to MY success was ( and will be even after the malabsorption stops ) is that I lived on a very healthy lowfat /low sugar  diet long before i even thought about surgery.  I ate too much ,granted , but it was too much of the RIGHT things .  

The surgery just cut down my portions considerably - along with my hunger . 


if Ure seriously trying to re-lose weight after regain , why don't U join us on the liteweights board ?
Many of us post what we eat and our exercise  as well on MENUS and MILES every single day .

It helps keep us accountable and we get valuable feedback from our peers too .  

Forgive me for being a naive relative newbie ...but  reading Ur accounts of WLS "failures" I see well intentioned people who tried really hard ...who often ate the wrong  high fat foods pre WLS and slipped them back in later .

 Rather than waiting  for a revision ,  why not try to take control of the tool U HAVE through diet and exercise ....with accountability and support ? U might as well TRY it    I think ....anyway just wantedto let U know Ure WELCOME ! 

The funny thing was EVERY SINGLE PERSON *****sponded that they were going to make the recipe was LARGE - even by the standards of this site 
Large based on what?? 
Do you personally know the age, weight, body type etc for these "large" people?

The OP of that "wildly popular" thread has a starting BMI of 37....two *****sponded are starting out at a lower weight than the OP of this rude thread....two others are in the 360ish range but had their surgeries very recently...and there is one more I'm not sure about so yeah, I don't know what she is basing this assumption on.  It's a mystery.....

This post comes off as holier than thou, just in case you might not have been aware of it.  A person who is six months post op doesn't have the experience to be doling out advice, I'm sorry to say.

I do wish you success, but the Failed Surgery board is full of people who might not want to hear about how great you look in a bikini. I know that seeing as how my failed surgery in 2003 almost killed me, I'm just happy to be alive at this point.  I don't care so much about being able to look good in a bikini. I'm happy to just be able to breathe without chronic and debilitating pain stemming directly from my WLS. 

You're probably a nice person, but I think this particular thread comes off as looking down your nose at others. It probably wasn't your intention, but I thought I'd be honest with you. 

O M G!!  This is one of the rudest posts I have EVER seen on here!  I am sure you did have good intentions but maybe you should re-read your post to see just how condescending it really is.  And BTW,  you are in fact, still very much in your "honeymoon phase" and you have NO idea what you may face down the road.  I certainly hope you don't EVER have problems but you do not know that for certain yet you come across as if you have ALL the answers and it is very offensive (even to me and I am a newbie who is doing just fine and losing nicely). I know that is not what the Lightweight board is all about.  I lurk over there quite a bit and you all are generally very encouraging.  Just my two cents...take or leave it.

 TRULY I didn't mean to  sound sanctimonious or  like the food police .....sorry if i offended anyone .  I guess i just hate to see people doing their best and struggling to get the results they desire .

I don't think this is an easy  fix at all ....and absolutely admit that six months is still certainly the "honeymoon phase "and things may well change down the road ......

all I said was i was very surprised how well lowfat /low sugar  worked for ME post op and thought people might want to consider it .

Peace !

all I said was i was very surprised how well lowfat /low sugar  worked for ME post op and thought people might want to consider it .

If this was all you had said there would not have been a problem.  What offended me was your rude, disrespectful, inaccurate remark based on the size of the posters. First of all I am not sure how you think you knew how large folks were that posted and 2d and more to the point is what the hell difference did it make and what did you hope to achieve by making reference to the size of the posters.

 Did I actually SAY that ?  WHOA - no wonder people think I'm obnoxious LOL !!    

OBVIOUSLY I have my ISSUES , at whatever weight!!    well , I  learned in OA that very imperfect people can STILL and DO all the time help each other profoundly with God's guidance .  

I just can't help thinking ...what if the "key " that MIGHT just unlock the door of some people's obvious frustration really IS a lowfat/ low sugar diet ? 

I have seen so much ill informed  " dieting " in OA over the years too ...and seen the same people struggling post op eating the same high- fat  "low carb" diet people often talk about on here  .

I have seen these friends fail to lose thru diet n exercise ,get bariatric surgery in some cases and STILL  struggle ten years or more years later .  

It breaks my heart !! NOONE deserves this prison inside their own body .... or the attendant profound frustration and depression and eventual ill health that goes along with it - not if they are CHOOSING a different direction.

I have often been very surprised in OA how little people know about actual nutrition - for instance I have heard ketchup referred to as a vegetable not once but MANY times .   Usually the misunderstanding is around FAT though - " we NEED fat "  is the mantra .  

The problem is that for those of us with excess fat cells and/or metabolic disorder   and/ or mobility issues we just may not be able to burn it off .    

I find eating carbs and strongly limiting fats to be a far more FORGIVING way of eating that works WELL with WLS - at least in my case so far .  

Do you honestly believe people haven't tried low fat/low carb previously?

Low fat/low carb works for you, for me full fat/no white carb/unlimited good carbs works for me and I've been at goal over 2 years.  I'm over the honeymoon days. ;o)

Seriously, talking about how good you look in a bikini on a failed WLS board is really tasteless, tacky, and just kinda mean.  I know you from the MB and I know you aren't this heartless so maybe edit your post?

 I really  really like what U had to say on Ur site .  That said I think there IS more to this recovery from compulsive overeating stuff than  "just  getting to  a "normal " BMI  which many people ( but by no means  all )here ...seem to be satisfied with.

I DO think there is a new generation of ( often )  lighter weight bariatric patients out here who DO want to be that california -girl beach Barbie - who havent permanently disconnected themselves from their skinnygirl  dreams . 

And who knows maybe a few people who perviously were happy with 200 lbs who might now be wishing to maintain at 160 or less .  

I dont think its a crime or flaunting to show bikini pics ...rather  proof that skin CAN snap back  that we CAN have beautiful bodies after a 100 plus pound weight loss and the life improvements ARE worth struggling and sacrificing  for TODAY .  One woman's  reason for resignation is another woman's inspiration in other words .

As a true food rebel - I wonder how many people on the Failed Weight Loss Surgery board eat for entertainment ( like I do )  snack between meals  ( like I do )   eat twice as much or more than they're supposed to at meals ( like I do ) .  

Im just giving THEM hope and a concrete way too  that yes U can be a stubborn  overeater and STILL  somehow lose ....

That said  Ive been GAINING ...so I might have to come on this board for MORE than just trying to help ... I need some advice !!