SO I WANT TO KNOW.....

kamelion63
on 4/4/10 4:49 am - McKinney, TX
I dont think that the data they gave me prior to my BAND surgery was correct.

I cant remember the gist of it now but I know that they made it seem as though very few people have complications. Then I come on here and see SOO many people have complications....some to the point of LIFE THREATENING!

Why dont they come out with a NEW study with CORRECT data on Lap BANDS???

It seems to me that so many more people have complications than the # that was quoted in 2007 and probably even more than that because people who fail the lap band or have complications may be ashamed that they went to such drastic measures as surgery to lose weight and it didnt work so they are too ashamed to tell anyone.

And on top of that some surgeons make you feel like it is your fault before they ever agree to do any tests.

My Band surgeon refused to listen to me and made me feel like it was all my fault until one day I snapped out of it and went to my new surgeon who was willing to listen. And it turns out IT WASNT ME!

Thanks for letting me vent! I just feel sorry for those people going into the band with inaccurate data....
Kamelion63

Lap Band 10/2007 Had complications  - waiting on approval to have band removed and revised to RNY with NEW surgeon Dr. Nicholson!

HW 315 SW 286 CW285 GW 180

"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." -Kurt Cobain
Nic M
on 4/4/10 1:05 pm, edited 4/4/10 1:05 pm
M-O-N-E-Y.  It's that simple. If people believe the lapband is "safe, less invasive and effective" then they will choose that surgery. Then, when it fails, as so often it does, it usually requires further surgery and/or revision. It all boils down to the band being a money making endeavor. It's really no more complicated than that in my mind. It's a shame that I bought into it. Of course, back in 2003 when I had the lapband surgery, there really wasn't much research on it to be able to educate myself.  I simply trusted my (bad) surgeon.  I have lived and learned, though! 

edited for spelling error

 

 Avoid kemmerling, Green Bay, WI

 

kamelion63
on 4/4/10 1:36 pm - McKinney, TX
I guess it is the money. WLS is a lucrative business..... Just ask True Results....


They should all be ashamed of themselves...
Kamelion63

Lap Band 10/2007 Had complications  - waiting on approval to have band removed and revised to RNY with NEW surgeon Dr. Nicholson!

HW 315 SW 286 CW285 GW 180

"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." -Kurt Cobain
Nic M
on 4/6/10 2:31 am
I had the worst experience of my life with the lapband. It truly almost was the death of me. I have adhesions now from the numerous abdominal surgeries. I'm so screwed up in my guts, it's a wonder I'm still kicking.  I went into surgery a relatively healthy fat person and came out unable to eat solid foods, in chronic pain... but I lost 100 pounds, so no one can say I wasn't "successful."   

Of course, NOW my metabolism is SO incredibly screwed up that I exercise like a crazy person, I diet like I did before and I still can't lose any weight. From not being able to eat solid foods for 2 years, I think my body thinks, "Oh no. No way, I'm holding on to this in case you decide to starve again!" It stinks!

When I think of the enormous amount of money I spent... and I spent it on a doctor who couldn't have cared less about me once he got paid, I wish I could have a "do-over." 

There are good doctors out there, of course. The good ones aren't recommending the lapband from what I can see. They know the complication rates... you know, the facts that the manufacturers don't really want to be public knowledge. They can make commercials, telling fat people how their lives will improve vastly after having a lapband, but they don't mention the left shoulder pain that is so prevalent. They don't let people know that after a few years, their esophagus will either be ulcerated or work as well as a clogged up drain pipe.  No one tells in those commercials how you'll most likely end up having multiple surgeries to replace, repair the band, or revise to another surgery, (if you aren't too damaged, that is! )

So, yeah, I fully believe that it's all Big Business. People pay the bucks to be "thin and happy." It's the way of the world.

 

 Avoid kemmerling, Green Bay, WI

 

Elizabeth_Ann
on 4/6/10 9:26 am
You are so right that it's all about the money for some doctors. After all the commercials on TV, I went to my surgeon fully intending to have the lap band. He gave me all the facts and said that he really doesn't even like to do lap band and probably would not be doing it much longer. He recommends the RNY or VSG.

Now that I have had my RNY, my only complaint is that I wish I would have known about the DS. My surgeon wasn't doing them routinely and didn't recommend it. I had never heard of it, so I went with the tried and true RNY. 

I live in fear every day that I will regain and be a failure at this like I've been a failure with every weight loss in my life. I am trying to change my approach to food so I pray I don't regain!

Sorry for all of your troubles. I wish the best for you!

Hugs,

Liz in Orlando       LW-Apple-Gold-Small.jpg image by PlicketyCat

        
Nic M
on 4/8/10 1:32 pm
Thank you, Liz. It's really hard when you have high hopes and then things happen that are beyond your control to dash those hopes.

I wish you the best, as well. Consider yourself lucky that you didn't choose the band, in my opinion! I'm slightly biased because of my own less than positive experience, I suppose, but I really think you'll have success with the RnY.

Thanks,
Nicci

 

 Avoid kemmerling, Green Bay, WI

 

(deactivated member)
on 4/8/10 11:58 pm
 I remember Dr.George Fileding's lap band seminar when he talked about having  lap band himself and how he eats pretty much one meal  a day of 800-900 calories .   

That made me sit up and say WHOA - cuz i have always eaten far more than that and NEED to because I exercise and use my brain to create for my work - the brain MUST have blood sugar to work right .

Whenever i dieted in the past i got lightheaded and virtually useless work-wise though i might have LOOKED pretty .

I ended up with an RNY thank God from one of his students - but had I needed to lose more than 100 lbs i would have definitely INSISTED on a DS .  

Living on a diet forever ( like the RNY and lapband require ) is really an onerous requirement . 


kamelion63
on 4/9/10 8:42 am - McKinney, TX

Yeah my seminar for the Band was outrageous. It was a lady who had it herself and told us that she never had a fill EATS ANY THING SHE WANTS and lost 120 pounds....   You shouldnt tell people that because that is not they way it is going to be. I wasnt naive enought to think that it would be that way, but I sure didnt think the thing would cause me soooooo much PAIN...

Kamelion63

Lap Band 10/2007 Had complications  - waiting on approval to have band removed and revised to RNY with NEW surgeon Dr. Nicholson!

HW 315 SW 286 CW285 GW 180

"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." -Kurt Cobain
USAF Wife
on 4/12/10 2:50 pm
I have my own version of hell with my band story, and I only dealt with it for 8 months before revising to VSG. Best dang decision I could have ever made.

LapBand stuff

http://www.lapband.com/en/learn_about_lapband/safety_informa tion/

Patients can experience complications after surgery. Most complications are not serious but some may require hospitalization and/or re-operation. In the United States clinical study, with 3-year follow-up reported, 88% of the 299 patients had one or more adverse events, ranging from mild, moderate, to severe. Nausea and vomiting (51%), gastroesophageal reflux (regurgitation) (34%), band slippage/pouch dilatation (24%) and stoma obstruction (stomach-band outlet blockage) (14%) were the most common post-operative complications. In the study, 25% of the patients had their band systems removed, two-thirds of which were following adverse events. Esophageal dilatation or dysmotility (poor esophageal function****urred in 11% of patients, the long-term effects of which are currently unknown. Constipation, diarrhea and dysphagia (difficulty swallowing****urred in 9% of the patients. In 9% of the patients, a second surgery was needed to fix a problem with the band or initial surgery. In 9% of the patients, there was an additional procedure to fix a leaking or twisted access port. The access port design has been improved. Four out of 299 patients (1.3%) had their bands erode into their stomachs. These bands needed to be removed in a second operation. Surgical techniques have evolved to reduce slippage. Surgeons with more laparoscopic experience and more experience with these procedures report fewer complications.

Adverse events that were considered to be non-serious, and which occurred in less than 1% of the patients, included: esophagitis (inflammation of the esophagus), gastritis (inflammation of the stomach), hiatal hernia (some stomach above the diaphragm), pancreatitis (inflammation of the pancreas), abdominal pain, hernia, incisional hernia, infection, redundant skin, dehydration, diarrhea (frequent semi-solid bowel movements), abnormal stools, constipation, flatulence (gas), dyspepsia (upset stomach), eructation (belching), cardiospasm (an obstruction of passage of food through the bottom of the esophagus), hematemsis (vomiting of blood), asthenia (fatigue), fever, chest pain, incision pain, contact dermatitis (rash), abnormal healing, edema (swelling), paresthesia (abnormal sensation of burning, *****ly, or tingling), dysmenorrhea (difficult periods), hypochromic anemia (low oxygen carrying part of blood), band system leak, cholecystitis (gall stones), esophageal ulcer (sore), port displacement, port site pain, spleen injury, and wound infection. Be sure to ask your surgeon about these possible complications and any of these medical terms that you dont understand.

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What are the specific risks and possible complications?

Talk to your doctor about all of the following risks and complications:

  • Ulceration
  • Gastritis (irritated stomach tissue)
  • Gastroesophageal reflux (regurgitation)
  • Heartburn
  • Gas bloat
  • Dysphagia (difficulty swallowing)
  • Dehydration
  • Constipation
  • Weight regain
  • Death

Laparoscopic surgery has its own set of possible problems. They include:

  • Spleen or liver damage (sometimes requiring spleen removal)
  • Damage to major blood vessels
  • Lung problems
  • Thrombosis (blood clots)
  • Rupture of the wound
  • Perforation of the stomach or esophagus during surgery

Laparoscopic surgery is not always possible. The surgeon may need to switch to an "open" method due to some of the reasons mentioned here. This happened in about 5% of the cases in the U.S. Clinical Study.

There are also problems that can occur that are directly related to the LAP-BAND® System:

  • The band can spontaneously deflate because of leakage. That leakage can come from the band, the reservoir, or the tubing that connects them.
  • The band can slip
  • There can be stomach slippage
  • The stomach pouch can enlarge
  • The stoma (stomach outlet) can be blocked
  • The band can erode into the stomach

Obstruction of the stomach can be caused by:

  • Food
  • Swelling
  • Improper placement of the band
  • The band being over-inflated
  • Band or stomach slippage
  • Stomach pouch twisting
  • Stomach pouch enlargement

There have been some reports that the esophagus has stretched or dilated in some patients. This could be caused by:

  • Improper placement of the band
  • The band being tightened too much
  • Stoma obstruction
  • Binge eating
  • Excessive vomiting

Patients with a weaker esophagus may be more likely to have this problem. A weaker esophagus is one that is not good at pushing food through to your stomach. Tell your surgeon if you have difficulty swallowing. Then your surgeon can evaluate this.

Weight loss with the LAP-BAND® System is typically slower and more gradual than with some other weight loss surgeries. Tightening the band too fast or too much to try to speed up weight loss should be avoided. The stomach pouch and/or esophagus can become enlarged as a result. You need to learn how to use your band as a tool that can help you reduce the amount you eat.

Infection is possible. Also, the band can erode into the stomach. This can happen right after surgery or years later, although this rarely happens.

Complications can cause reduced weight loss. They can also cause weight gain. Other complications can result that require more surgery to remove, reposition, or replace the band.

Some patients have more nausea and vomiting than others. You should see your physician at once if vomiting persists.

Rapid weight loss may lead to symptoms of:

  • Malnutrition
  • Anemia
  • Related complications

It is possible you may not lose much weight or any weight at all. You could also have complications related to obesity.

If any complications occur, you may need to stay in the hospital longer. You may also need to return to the hospital later. A number of less serious complications can also occur. These may have little effect on how long it takes you to recover from surgery.

If you have existing problems, such as diabetes, a large hiatal hernia (part of the stomach in the chest cavity), Barretts esophagus (severe, chronic inflammation of the lower esophagus), or emotional or psychological problems, you may have more complications. Your surgeon will consider how bad your symptoms are, and if you are a good candidate for the LAP-BAND® System surgery. You also have more risk of complications if you've had a surgery before in the same area. If the procedure is not done laparoscopically by an experienced surgeon, you may have more risk of complications.

Anti-inflammatory drugs that may irritate the stomach, such as aspirin and NSAIDs, should be used with caution.

Some people need folate and vitamin B12 supplements to maintain normal homocycteine levels. Elevated homocycteine levels can increase risks to your heart and the risk of spinal birth defects.

You can develop gallstones after a rapid weight loss. This can make it necessary to remove your gallbladder.

There have been no reports of autoimmune disease with the use of the LAP-BAND® System. Autoimmune diseases and connective tissue disorders, though, have been reported after long-term implantation of other silicone devices. These problems can include systemic lupus erythematosus and scleroderma. At this time, there is no conclusive clinical evidence that supports a relationship between connective-tissue disorders and silicone implants. Long-term studies to further evaluate this possibility are still being done. You should know, though, that if autoimmune symptoms develop after the band is in place, you may need treatment. The band may also need to be removed. Talk with your surgeon about this possibility. Also, if you have symptoms of autoimmune disease now, the LAP-BAND® System may not be right for you.

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Removing the LAP-BAND® System

If the LAP-BAND® System has been placed laparoscopically, it may be possible to remove it the same way. This is an advantage of the LAP-BAND® System. However, an "open" procedure may be necessary to remove a band. In the U.S. Clinical Study, 60% of the bands that were removed were done laparoscopically. Surgeons report that after the band is removed, the stomach returns to essentially a normal state.

At this time, there are no known reasons to suggest that the band should be replaced or removed at some point unless a complication occurs or you do not lose weight. It is difficult, though, to say whether the band will stay in place for the rest of your life. It may need to be removed or replaced at some point. Removing the device requires a surgical procedure. That procedure will have all the related risks and possible complications that come with surgery. The risk of some complications, such as erosions and infection, increase with any added procedure.



Band to VSG revision: June 3, 2009
SW 270lbs GW 150lbs CW Losing Pregancy Weight Maintenance goal W 125-130lbs


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