Im wrong you are all right, and ill F%^& off like I was told.

if i could delete this I would. You are all right, I am conpletely wrong.  Sorry I made all your heads spin.

You win. 

Im the biggest asshole that walked the earth.













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So tired of hearing people say that RNY Failed them, because they gained the weight back....


OMG!!!  You failed yourself...  This surgery is NOT a fix all!!  It is a tool to get Jump Started with!!! 

You lose weight doing nothing in the beginning because your eating NOTHING - You have to teach yourself HOW to eat and WHAT to eat as well as what it is like to live a HEALTHY life - with working out and going out and doing things that you would not have done at your highest weight!!



No one is FAT because they were set up that way... You can NOT say - I ate healthy and ballooned to 300 -400 pounds...  You know as well as I that is BULL****!

You need to go to therapy and find out WHY you were fat in the first place, work on that!!! 

IF YOU -

Work on the reason you were fat in the first place!!!???!!!!
Learn how to eat properly with smaller healthier meals!!!
Work out on 4-7 times a week (as everyone should be) AND this doesnt mean the gym this means going swimming at a friends house, going for a walk on the beach, you know - normal activities ... playing with Kids...

If you start living a healthy lifestyle and learn what the problem WAS and FIX it -

YOU WILL NOT GAIN THE WEIGHT BACK!!!  

I am so tired of people always blaming everyone else....  Look at  yourself!!!


I dont mean to be rude, or offensive, but come on people, it is time to be adults and face the fire - If you have the surgery at 400 pounds and the following year you now weight more than you started at - either your surgery was NOT performed properly OR you FAILED Yourself.

What would make you come to this forum and post something like this?  Read the subject  line 3 posts down.  We are already having a hard time trying to figure out what went wrong and believe me we have spent many hours  "Looking at ourselves".   Unless you've been there you really should'nt judge or act as if you have the answers because you DON"T.  If you don't have somethig supportive to say don't say anything at all.

Lmao - I love this saying - " Unless you've been there you really should'nt judge."  Bs  - I will NEVER be there because I know this is not a fix all.  I didnt pay 35K to have my insides re-organized so I can continue on the same path.

You need to look at what made you do what you have done.  You can NOT say that you are doing as you should or you wouldnt have gained the weight back... come on... be honest.

I am being supportive... this is an eye opener.

Tru dat, yo. If all obese people in this world truly had metabolic problems then we as a species would have failed long ago. I know that some people may not like the bombastic tone of the previous post, but in our hearts, we should take off the blinders and see the truth of it. You all know that I am not a hater, and that I support everyone's efforts to get healthy in their life!
 
The problem is both our culture's "Super-size, mega-biggie-large" more-is-better mentality AND a lifetime of using food as a coping mechanism and source of joy and reward, which we learned as children from our families and society and applied relentlessly throughout our adulthood. (Remember the grown-ups in that movie "WALL*E"?) It means 30 or 40 YEARS of brainwashing that we are FIGHTING AGAINST! We have to accept that it may be the work of a lifetime to reverse the overeating behaviors, and that baby steps on the road to wellness should still be celebrated and encouraged.

WLS is just controlled starvation to force the body to use up the excess stored fat. It is not forever. It gives us an opportunity to change core eating behaviors, regain our health, and hopefully start out fresh.

While some of us may be offended by Irreplaceably_rare's tone, and feel judged by it, remember that this is no different than what many of our surgeons and our research have already revealed to us. Over time, pouches stretch, and if we don't stay with the low-fat, high fiber program, with regular aerobic exercise, we will regain the weight we lost. The only proven longterm weight loss strategy is eating less and exercising more.

Don't be discouraged, guys! Take it one day at a time. All the bes****erwench

Sorry for my tone, I just get fustrated when I see newbies on here making decisions about their up - coming surgery on this forum while there are many that blame everyone but themselves for not being proacive.

So the way you put it was a lot better.... sorry, I know I can sound a little rude, but it just struck a nerve, sorry :)

Jess

Pride cometh before a fall, Jess.  I hope for your sake, that in 1, 2, 3 years you don't live to regret these posts.

Um, it's because of those people with "metabolic problems", we are even here. Those stubborn metabolisms are what has even enabled mankind to survive famines and hunter/gatherer lifestyles.

It's only late in this century that we have had (particularly in the US) the ability for even the poor to have access to abundant calories.

My doctor worked with me on caloric intake and metabolism for years before I resorted to WLS, and we never got to where I could take in more than 800-900 calories a day without gaining weight (and that was WITH an hour of exercise 6 days a week).

She said the folks with metabolisms like mine were the rock stars of hunter/gatherer times. We were the reason (and the very ones) that survived the lean times, which are what most of history has actually been for most.

There are some people with metabolic problems, but they are the minority. There is greater food availability nowadays, it's true, but most studies agree that it is the combination of extreme lack of activity and extreme food intake that has led to the obesity epidemic of today. I know that my metabolism has nothing to do with my previous weight of 292.

I own my weight problem. I overate like it was going out of style, I relied on food for emotional support, I used it as a bandaid for most of my life. I still struggle, as do must of the people on this board! But the mutation that creates a very slow metabolism and easy weight gain is not consistent with the individual's desire to lead a long and healthy life in the 21st century. 

Do you truly only eat 800 or 900 calories per day? Now? If so, you are one of the few who has to eat a very low calorie diet in order to maintain weight. If you eat more like 1500 to 2000 calories per day and don't gain weight, you are like most people.

I am not about blaming, I am about honesty and acceptance. If we are honest about our lifestyle and do day-by-day problem-solving and self-actualizing, I truly believe that together we can help each other to climb out of the obesity trap. But it takes consistent effort and accountability. Very few of the hunter-gatherers were obese, because their lives involved constant activity and limited food. Modern humans could learn from that! All the bes****erwench

My caloric intake is now closer to 1200-1500 per day (post surgery), which isn't tons of food, but since I don't avoid all fats now (especially avocado and olive oil) and focus on protein first, those tend to be caloric-ally dense foods. When I'm content to quit losing, I'll eat a few hundred more per day, and hope that levels it off. The 800 was when my pcp was monitoring every bite and bit of activity as she had tested thyroid and anything she could think of to see why I was such a slow loser. If it got down closer to 600 calories per day, I could actually lose a pound, but that would be over 3 or 4 weeks. That is just a drop in the bucket when you have a lot to lose, and as she put it, you cannot eat enough to avoid malnutrition at that level.

She said I clearly have genetic components contributing to my stubborn metabolism, and years of extreme diets and age now contribute as well. She also is convinced that many more people have this than we realize, but until we study it more, it's hard to say how many.

I agree that the highly processed fast-type food is the devil, and if I could have just eaten less, that would have been a wonderful alternative to having surgery. I was an expert at dieting, I only wi**** worked for me, instead of making me more efficient. I truly believe that efficient bodies are why humans survived the famines and lean times.

Your like only 4 months out and your a professional now?? I hope you don't gain any weight back...I think it would be tragic since you don't seem to have ALL the answers that you think you have!