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Jmm4321
on 4/4/22 3:42 pm
Topic: RE: Revision from Loop to Traditional DS

I don't mean to sound condescending but I don't believe your identifying the problem correctly. Based on the info above, you could have started with the DS and you'd likely be having a myriad of issues now including excess weight. You should consider if not taking required vitamins means you were never really ready for wls, and reconsider excellent advice from your doctors about being a live fat mom vs a dead skinny one.

I've been living with the SADi DS for almost eight years with the same 300 cm length cc. It works extremely well and I have zero excess weight eating virtually anything. My challenge is being responsible about health reasons for eating but not weight gain.

Getting an expert consult is a good idea but you should be sure the surgeon is a true expert on all wls options, and maybe a therapist to help you evaluate the risk of another surgery for you and your family.

PattyL
on 4/4/22 12:32 pm
Topic: RE: Revision from Loop to Traditional DS

In would recommend you consult with Ara Keshishian. That is my best suggestion. Google him. Very well known and respected. He takes the tough cases.

Jmm4321
on 4/3/22 2:26 pm
Topic: RE: Vitamin E-400 dry capsule

I just ordered my supply today from amazon. Look for Solaray Vitamin E, Dry 400 IU. hey also have 1,000IU

CDunham87
on 4/3/22 11:19 am
WLS on 03/01/19
Topic: Revision from Loop to Traditional DS

I currently am working on getting my Loop DS revised to a Traditional DS. I have a long, sordid story but here's the shortest version I can muster.

  • I had the LapBand in 2012 at 500lbs and took 1+ year to lose 100lbs. Gained it all back and then some.
  • Was a guest on a TV show. I went to a fitness camp for 6mo. Worked my a** off and lost 125lbs "naturally."
  • I was given the opportunity to have free surgery (in exchange for show publicity) to remove the band and revise to any other surgery I wanted. I asked for Traditional DS.
  • Surgeon wanted to do it in 2 steps - Had the LapBand removed and sleeve portion completed in Sept. 2018 at about 390lb.
  • Then, the surgeon refused to completed the rest of the DS. After much arguing with producers and whatnot, they sent me to another surgeon who only did Loop DS. Settled on the Loop (as it was my only option) in March 2019 at about 340.
  • Got pregnant unexpectedly weighing 270lbs in December 2019 - Healthy, normal pregnancy, baby & delivery in Aug. 2020. Weighed at 300lbs at delivery.
  • Severe case of post-partum depression/anxiety, hospitalized several times after delivery. Lost 60+lbs in the first 2mo after delivery as I wouldn't/couldn't eat due to symptoms. Got to 240lbs in March 2021.
  • Several months and medications later, doing better. I've since regained back to 290lbs+ and now after really watching diet/exercise, I can't get weight below 270lbs or so.

All in all, from the time I had the "Loop" part of the DS done I've only lost maybe 70lbs - Almost 20 of those pounds I've been able to maintain of that weight loss was from skin/fat removed during a Panniculectomy I had done in 2020.

Here's my dilemma: Even with consistent & restrictive diet/exercise regimen in place, I can't break through this barrier. I've never once had any issues that people talk about. (Diarrhea, malabsorption, etc.) Which is great, but I went through the most of the last few years without taking any vitamins and my numbers are perfect...And my weight doesn't budge. I also suffer from extreme reflux - The primary reason I sought revision in the first place. This tells 2 BIG things - My surgery is no where near restrictive enough for my body. And 2, I really need to commit to my vitamin regimen..

I have Medicaid right now and they have approved revision, but I believe that was to gastric bypass. My surgeon declined surgery at all, saying I've already had 3 surgeries and there was nothing more he could do...And my tests to view the damage from the reflux (even though I aspirate frequently and have thrown up in my sleep) weren't bad enough to warrant any changes. He also said a bypass might make me gain weight.

I want a 2nd opinion and I want to go to traditional DS. My common channel is 300cc and I feel like I'm still always hungry...And I've always been able to eat more than I felt like my other sleeve or DS counterparts could. I remember eating my first solids and crying, because I set out my portion and I was still hungry shortly after...It was like the band all over again. I have been so blessed to come this far and TONS of doctors say, "You should be proud of how far you've come. Most people your size don't make it this far." But going 2/3 of the way isn't good enough for me and I know in the depths of my soul that this isn't working the way it should because it wasn't as "aggressive" as it is meant to be. I'm upset because I didn't get what I asked for in the beginning and not am being punished for having too many surgeries. I understand the risks and I don't want someone to go in and hack away at whatever is left...What I'm asking is someone to go in and consider what I'm telling them - My body needs more restriction than whatever has been done before and perhaps more than "average." I really think my genetics are playing a huge role. I mean, I'd be a GREAT candidate for surviving a long winter & I would have been quite the catch a few hundred years ago, but it's not serving me or my family right now.

My biggest question: Does anyone have any information on revision from Loop to Traditional DS? Has anyone had this revision done themselves? Anyone know of a good surgeon I could reach out to that would be willing just to give me encouragement? The surgeon I had basically told me it was all behavioral. I have a counselor, I'm tracking all my food/exercise and will continue to press forward regardless...But I want a second opinion. I just have this gut feeling there's more to my inability to lose.

Thank you for taking the time to read if you made it this far!!

White Dove
on 4/2/22 5:36 am - Warren, OH
Topic: RE: Sleeve to DS

People who lose weight without surgery have about a 3% chance of losing more than 50 pounds and maintaining the loss. With surgery, that chance goes up to about 50%. The average weight loss with surgery (and people will tell you that there is no average weight loss and they are wrong) is about 100 pounds. Most gain back 20 pounds by the end of the third year. About 50% gain back 50 pounds by year five.

There are two ways to lose the weight and keep it off. You either become a very efficient dieter or a very motivated exerciser. Shop around for a revision surgeon if you want a revision. Ask to speak with the surgeon's long term revision patients. You will probably not be put in touch with any because average weight loss with a revision is 20 pounds. Some lose 30 pounds if they become devoted to diet and exercise.

Revision to a DS type of surgery can be more successful with weight loss, but can also leave you with a lot of bathroom issues to deal with. Do your research and be sure that you know what you are signing up for so you are not surprised for disappointed.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

BUBBLELICIOUS852
on 3/29/22 8:14 am
Topic: RE: Sleeve to DS

well I had the Gastric Bypass. My beginning weight was 267lbs. i ONLY LOST 80LBS. in 2011, I gained 40lbs and could not get rid of it. Since the PANDEMIC, I gained a whopping 20 more lbs. I am so depressed. I need a REVISION!!! BADLY!!I DO NOT WANT TO GO BACK TO JOHN HOPKINS HOSPITAL. They screwed me over. I have BLUE CROSS/ BLUE SHIELD (PPO). I can go anywhere I want. I have real good insurance. That's why I looked into St. Agnes.

hollykim
on 3/28/22 9:06 am, edited 3/28/22 2:06 am - Nashville, TN
Revision on 03/18/15
Topic: RE: Vitamin E-400 dry capsule
On March 27, 2022 at 2:49 PM Pacific Time, Sandra N. wrote:

I normally order from vitalady, but they are not taking orders for E right now, all I am finding is softgel or gel and DSers malabsorbs gel caps, can't take them. does anyone have answers please.

check on Amazon or the vitamin shoppe. They carry some dry forms of things.

I believe I bought my lAst vitamin E from vitamin shoppe.

 


          

 

Sandra N.
on 3/27/22 7:49 am - Grain Valley, MO
Topic: Vitamin E-400 dry capsule

I normally order from vitalady, but they are not taking orders for E right now, all I am finding is softgel or gel and DSers malabsorbs gel caps, can't take them. does anyone have answers please.

PattyL
on 3/20/22 8:28 am
Topic: RE: Internal Hernia

Anyone can get a hernia. Having abdominal surgery makes it more likely. And they can recur as well. Give yourself lots of time to heal before you do anything strenuous.

I have one that needs to be fixed. I am tired of looking pregnant. Between that and the excess skin I am a train wreck. I put it off for a couple years because of COVID. I couldn't bring myself to be in a hospital. I think I have found the right surgeon and I just have to make myself do it now.

Noodle65
on 3/19/22 4:38 pm
DS on 10/18/12
Topic: Internal Hernia

Well after almost ten years post surgery I've had my first complication I had to have emergency surgery for an internal hernia. Has anyone on here experienced this I'm not going to lie the recovery has been pretty tough and I have a pretty big incision as he had to do an open surgery to repair the area the surgeon believes it was completely related to the duodenal switch

Any experiences would be helpful thank you I am concerned about having this now become a trend

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