Back to Basics

Jaiart
on 11/29/12 3:35 am, edited 11/29/12 3:39 am - MI
I'm not getting the results I want so I guess my plan to go raw is on hold and I will have to go back to basics with mostly meat... Yuck but I will deal with it. Low carbs, doctor told me today to lose the protein supplements so I just have to eat which will be meat then.... Bah humbug.

 

bugirll
on 11/29/12 3:42 am - MD
DS on 03/19/12

What are the results that you want to see? 

Vegan and DS usually don't mix.

DS with Toon Sonneville 3/19/12
Jaiart
on 11/29/12 5:53 am - MI
On November 29, 2012 at 11:42 AM Pacific Time, bugirll wrote:

What are the results that you want to see? 

Vegan and DS usually don't mix.

"Usually don't" doesn't mean can't or won't .

 

Valerie G.
on 11/29/12 7:07 am - Northwest Mountains, GA

100g of protein without supplements - I'd put that up as "can't"

Meat and cheese are the best sources.

Valerie
DS 2005

There is room on this earth for all of God's creatures..
next to the mashed potatoes

mermaidz
on 11/29/12 8:52 am - Brampton, Canada
On November 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM Pacific Time, Jaiart wrote:
I'm not getting the results I want so I guess my plan to go raw is on hold and I will have to go back to basics with mostly meat... Yuck but I will deal with it. Low carbs, doctor told me today to lose the protein supplements so I just have to eat which will be meat then.... Bah humbug.

Why dont you have a look at some vegetarian or vegan recipes. Lentils, Black beans etc are very high in proteins

Google "High protein vegetarian foods" or Vegan foods. Most people, doctors included, have no idea how much protein is in a vegetarian or vegan diet.

Low carbs? why? simple or complex?

Why lose the supplements?  Did he give you a valid reason or just "stop"?

   
Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional.  

    
Jaiart
on 11/29/12 9:03 am - MI
I apologize for the disturbance I'm just so tired of meat it sickens me to even think about meat. I guess I need to comply to lose the weight I want to lose so I'll just toe the line.

 

mermaidz
on 11/29/12 10:46 am - Brampton, Canada
On November 29, 2012 at 5:03 PM Pacific Time, Jaiart wrote:
I apologize for the disturbance I'm just so tired of meat it sickens me to even think about meat. I guess I need to comply to lose the weight I want to lose so I'll just toe the line.

Jaiart

If you're a new sleeve, you're going to have  to take protein supplements.Vegan supplements are just as good.  ALL new bariatric patients do have to take protein supplements. It's a fact of life.

But slowly you can introduce more veggies and you can ..you CAN... eat a meat free diet. Especially if you are a sleeve. I have a RnY and I ate no meat at all for the first two months post-op. Currently I only eat poultry and shellfish.

You don't have the same dietary requirements as a Ds does. And if a DS had the brains to know that before calling "bull****" they wouldn't speak up or mouth off so loudly. DS have a very high FAT diet's. Sleevers don't

That's the difference...

So don't give up hope...

 

   
Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional.  

    
southernlady5464
on 12/1/12 11:03 pm
On November 29, 2012 at 6:46 PM Pacific Time, mermaidz wrote:
On November 29, 2012 at 5:03 PM Pacific Time, Jaiart wrote:
I apologize for the disturbance I'm just so tired of meat it sickens me to even think about meat. I guess I need to comply to lose the weight I want to lose so I'll just toe the line.

Jaiart

If you're a new sleeve, you're going to have  to take protein supplements.Vegan supplements are just as good.  ALL new bariatric patients do have to take protein supplements. It's a fact of life.

But slowly you can introduce more veggies and you can ..you CAN... eat a meat free diet. Especially if you are a sleeve. I have a RnY and I ate no meat at all for the first two months post-op. Currently I only eat poultry and shellfish.

You don't have the same dietary requirements as a Ds does. And if a DS had the brains to know that before calling "bull****" they wouldn't speak up or mouth off so loudly. DS have a very high FAT diet's. Sleevers don't

That's the difference...

So don't give up hope...

 

Based on Jaiart's profile, he does have the DS and yes, while we do have a sleeve, we also have the designer guts. So based on that, meat and fat is his friend...he just needs to find the products his new guts can handle...that changes with time.

Duodenal Switch (Lap) 01-24-11 | Surgeon: Stephen Boyce | High weight: 250 in 2002 | Surgery weight: 203 | Lowest weight: 121 | Current weight: 135 | Goal weight: 135






   

mermaidz
on 11/29/12 11:25 am - Brampton, Canada
On November 29, 2012 at 5:03 PM Pacific Time, Jaiart wrote:
I apologize for the disturbance I'm just so tired of meat it sickens me to even think about meat. I guess I need to comply to lose the weight I want to lose so I'll just toe the line.

Jaiart

If slaughter houses had windows ... most people wouldn't eat meat;

I do get it.. even if others dont

   
Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional.  

    
NoMore B.
on 11/29/12 9:04 pm

Curious - have you even HAD surgery yet?  Your ticker shows no weight loss.  The reason why I'm asking is because THINKING you know how to live with a sleeve (be it DS or stand alone VSG) is entirely different than actually living with one.

Eating the amount of veggie based protein you suggest, for a sleeve, is nearly physically impossible and ridiculous.  You simply do not have the stomach space to get in all that food, especially the fibrous food you are suggesting.  For a DS'er, it would send them into abdominal distress and running to the bathroom.  For just a sleeve, it would stuff you silly and you would be eating mountains of food all day.

The people reading this can decide if they want to believe the majority that have contributed based on experience, or the one or two brand new people (one of whom probably is probably still a pre-op), that clearly dont understand what they're talking about.

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