Will you be the one to die?
My mate Kingy is getting the DS! She is flying into London on the 27th of October and I'm flying in from Scotland on the same day. She'll go for her pre-op check with Mr Patel and I'll go for my two year check up and to flirt with the delightful and let me add desirable man. After that I'm her wing man and God help anyone who takes the piss!
Like every prospective Dser she thinks she may be the one to die on the table. She is normal. Suddenly us reckless fatties stop in our tracks and take a stock take of all we are going to leave behind...and it hurts. We probably did this in small manageable bursts as our addiction drove us further and further over the cliff like Lemmings in a Disney film. But will you be the one to die?
We recently lost Stephine. We could see it coming but couldn't stop her choices from bearing such bitter fruit. I wish we could have but it was not to be.....SIGH. I understand her desperation all too well.
So newbie are you going to die from your Ds? The short answer is a resounding NO! Statistically you're much more likely to die from having your gallbladder out which is rather common in those who consume large quantities of fat such as the morbidly obese. You have a 6% chance of dying from a lap-coley than a DS which carries a 1.4% chance of death. It is a significantly low surgical mortality rate....to the point that it appears safer to have this surgery then it is to cross the road in Central London at peak hour or ride a bicycle on a main road.
Will you suffer from hideous side effects and spend the next year in agony and in financial destitution? Ummm not really......no more so then for the removal of an ingrown toe nail. How ever I'd hedge my bets and move somewhere with Socialised medicine just to play it safe (had to get that dig in on behalf of the NHS). Here have a 10 year study into a group of 863 DS patients. Perioperative mortality was 1.4%, and morbidity (including leaks, wound dehiscence, splenectomy, and postoperative hemorrhage****urred in 21 patients (2.9%). I'll buy those odds for a dollar.
So why then are there so many stories of illness and death on the DS board? Well there isn't. There are thousands of folk who visit the DS forum and only a very small portion have post operative complications but because they and the collective us give a **** we share. We tell you so you are wise to the pitfalls of surgery as well as the good bits.
The reality of the the Ds is that it is an enormous operation. One of the reasons it is has such a low mortality rate is that it is too technically difficult and time consuming (not to mention the size of the team involved) to be able to work as a bariatric mill surgery. You can knock out two to three RNY's for every DS which makes it not financially viable for those in this to make a buck. So in summary only the most skilled and welfare driven surgeons are doing the DS there for the inherent risk of Muppet's churning out a pile of surgical failures is much lower then for the RNY, Lapband etc etc. For this I'm glad.
Know that the DS is huge and it hurts. It requires a good recovery time i.e. for me it was two months most get on after a month. It is a major surgery up there with a transplant in technical skill and inter-operative risks. This is why it is such an amazing thing because it changes entirely how we process and metabolise food. Give it the gravitas it deserves and prepare yourself for pain, for tiredness, for a struggle with eating and drinking that could last months and for the inevitable total mind and body transformation that will follow.
So no...the DS won't kill you.....bad choices can though......
Read this! Better still get your surgery off him if you can!!!
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360120/
Like every prospective Dser she thinks she may be the one to die on the table. She is normal. Suddenly us reckless fatties stop in our tracks and take a stock take of all we are going to leave behind...and it hurts. We probably did this in small manageable bursts as our addiction drove us further and further over the cliff like Lemmings in a Disney film. But will you be the one to die?
We recently lost Stephine. We could see it coming but couldn't stop her choices from bearing such bitter fruit. I wish we could have but it was not to be.....SIGH. I understand her desperation all too well.
So newbie are you going to die from your Ds? The short answer is a resounding NO! Statistically you're much more likely to die from having your gallbladder out which is rather common in those who consume large quantities of fat such as the morbidly obese. You have a 6% chance of dying from a lap-coley than a DS which carries a 1.4% chance of death. It is a significantly low surgical mortality rate....to the point that it appears safer to have this surgery then it is to cross the road in Central London at peak hour or ride a bicycle on a main road.
Will you suffer from hideous side effects and spend the next year in agony and in financial destitution? Ummm not really......no more so then for the removal of an ingrown toe nail. How ever I'd hedge my bets and move somewhere with Socialised medicine just to play it safe (had to get that dig in on behalf of the NHS). Here have a 10 year study into a group of 863 DS patients. Perioperative mortality was 1.4%, and morbidity (including leaks, wound dehiscence, splenectomy, and postoperative hemorrhage****urred in 21 patients (2.9%). I'll buy those odds for a dollar.
So why then are there so many stories of illness and death on the DS board? Well there isn't. There are thousands of folk who visit the DS forum and only a very small portion have post operative complications but because they and the collective us give a **** we share. We tell you so you are wise to the pitfalls of surgery as well as the good bits.
The reality of the the Ds is that it is an enormous operation. One of the reasons it is has such a low mortality rate is that it is too technically difficult and time consuming (not to mention the size of the team involved) to be able to work as a bariatric mill surgery. You can knock out two to three RNY's for every DS which makes it not financially viable for those in this to make a buck. So in summary only the most skilled and welfare driven surgeons are doing the DS there for the inherent risk of Muppet's churning out a pile of surgical failures is much lower then for the RNY, Lapband etc etc. For this I'm glad.
Know that the DS is huge and it hurts. It requires a good recovery time i.e. for me it was two months most get on after a month. It is a major surgery up there with a transplant in technical skill and inter-operative risks. This is why it is such an amazing thing because it changes entirely how we process and metabolise food. Give it the gravitas it deserves and prepare yourself for pain, for tiredness, for a struggle with eating and drinking that could last months and for the inevitable total mind and body transformation that will follow.
So no...the DS won't kill you.....bad choices can though......
Read this! Better still get your surgery off him if you can!!!
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360120/
RIP Mickie aka Happychick. You will be missed deeply.
HW/SW/CW/GW 346/335/183/150 5'4.25"
I swear it's like you're in my head.
I was awake, eyes wide open, with the fear of what I could potentially be doing to myself with this surgery. I kept seeing Stephanie's face and worrying, "will I die too?"
But deeper than that is the fear of irreversible negative effects to my body. I read of poor eloisie and others who struggle eating and those who have feeding tubes and I know they are temporary but what if they aren't temporary for me?
I was logging in today to ask how people adjusted to the "new normal"? It was overwhelming to think of a lifetime of health issues. I know I'll have just that if I DON'T do the surgery, but I'm relatively healthy now so it's difficult to see that down the road. Even though I know that specifically makes it the exact right time to do this.
Thanks for posting, this is really good stuff!
I was awake, eyes wide open, with the fear of what I could potentially be doing to myself with this surgery. I kept seeing Stephanie's face and worrying, "will I die too?"
But deeper than that is the fear of irreversible negative effects to my body. I read of poor eloisie and others who struggle eating and those who have feeding tubes and I know they are temporary but what if they aren't temporary for me?
I was logging in today to ask how people adjusted to the "new normal"? It was overwhelming to think of a lifetime of health issues. I know I'll have just that if I DON'T do the surgery, but I'm relatively healthy now so it's difficult to see that down the road. Even though I know that specifically makes it the exact right time to do this.
Thanks for posting, this is really good stuff!
Hmmm well the chances of you having an irreversible jejunumostomy are going to be pretty slim so you can almost bet you'll be hit by a meteorite instead. The effects of the Ds are reversible which is why I got it! The VSG part not so much!!!
What if what if what if what if........ what if you overcame your food addiction? What if you changed so much physically you alienated people who liked having you as a reminder of failure.....what if.......
p.s. I never had a feeding tube...just nil by mouth for 5 days and IV therapy then sips and liquid for two weeks then soft food for another three weeks (although I was eating mashed tatties in my second week and egg....and mostly spewing them out my nose). Just chill out chick. Get on with it and leave the catastrophe thinking for end of the world cults.
What if what if what if what if........ what if you overcame your food addiction? What if you changed so much physically you alienated people who liked having you as a reminder of failure.....what if.......
p.s. I never had a feeding tube...just nil by mouth for 5 days and IV therapy then sips and liquid for two weeks then soft food for another three weeks (although I was eating mashed tatties in my second week and egg....and mostly spewing them out my nose). Just chill out chick. Get on with it and leave the catastrophe thinking for end of the world cults.
RIP Mickie aka Happychick. You will be missed deeply.
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