Ds people HAVE to eat tons of meat

Elizabeth N.
on 6/28/11 4:19 am - Burlington County, NJ
I highly recommend that you find some way to shut her up. It will make her look a lot smarter. If I were in your shoes, I might hand her the URL to DSFacts and tell her I didn't want to hear another peep on the subject from her until she had read every single word on that site. And then I'd quiz her on contents through my conversation with her.

If someone wants to give me advice, or to tell me what to do like such a person, then I expect them to know their stuff. She does not. She is so scary ignorant that I am concerned for her ability to nourish herself correctly. I foresee big problems in her future.

Emily F.
on 6/28/11 3:07 am
The potty thing is not 'not right'. You will poop more, it will stink more. If you eat right, the trade off will be worth it. But there is a huge difference between normie and ds potty stuff. There is something to the rumors.

Yes, there is more malabsorption so more vitamin problems. 

Chad M.
on 6/28/11 4:25 am - Indianapolis, IN
No, you know this stuff isn't true. Now, I do eat a lot of meat. Bacon and eggs for breakfast, usually a turkey or roast beef wrap for lunch, steak or a burger for dinner would be a pretty typical day. I also get by on one double-scoop protein shake. If you don't want to eat as much meat, you could do more protein shakes. You might find after surgery that you want to eat more meat, though. Our bodies have a way of craving what we really need.

Nobody is one the toilet all the time, or at least if you are, it is a serious problem that needs to be addressed, either by changes in your diet, or maybe some digestive enzymes, or in rare cases, with a revision surgery.

Vitamins, yes, we take the most of any of the surgery types, no doubt about that. We also lose the most weight, have a much better chance of keeping it off, and have the most free diets of any of the surgery types. It's a fair trade off to me. I didn't want a surgically-induced eating disorder.

Now, it says here in your ticker that you have 180+ pounds to lose. I'll be honest with you, if you don't have the DS, you're crazy. No other surgery is effective for someone that size. I know, I was that size, and I did the research. Sure, you might lose the weight with some other surgery, and you might win the lottery too.
MarciRenee
on 6/28/11 9:31 pm - IA


One of the reasons we take more vites/supplements is that I think we pay more attention to our supplement needs than other surgeries.  We have had to educate ourselves on what we need, how much we need, and what labs we need to have drawn - b/c the NUT's and advice from our surgeon's office is basically worthless for a DS'er.
Marci       
mcrmsi77
on 6/28/11 7:07 am - IN
Your not the first to tell me that... That's why I decided to look into the surgery Bc sooo many people told me that! But I have decided the ds surgery would be the best option for me... I have just been trying to educate myself with every inch of information I can get you know what I mean. It's a big decision and I know that I can't fully be prepared but I want to be as prepared as I can! Thank u guys so much for all the info please if u have anymore feel free to comment or message me!
 
        
MarciRenee
on 6/28/11 9:43 pm - IA
That was what I was hearing when I was pre-op too!  I am so glad that someone pointed me in the right direction!!  What sold me was the NO dumping or puking, the cure of diabetes, and the life-long malabsorption.  I knew I could take the weight off with help but KEEPING it off has always been an issue for me.  I knew that with my years of yo-yo dieting that I had ****** up my metabolism.  With the DS, due to the intestinal switch your metabolism is "restarted".

And I agree with Chad that your body craves what is really needs a lot of the time.  I am HAPPY that I get to eat all this wonderful full fat meat and cheese.  I do get a little put out by trying to decide WHAT I want to eat sometimes!  I go through phases where I am hungry but don't know what I want to eat.  But I make it easy on myself b/c I normally have a lot of options in my fridge to choose from!

This is what I ate yesterday (not totally typical b/c I would have also eaten lunch but was too busy trying to get my run in before a doctor's appointment).
Breakfast - 4 eggs (over-easy), 5 slices of bacon crumbled up in them with 1/3 pkg cream cheese mixed in. 
AM Snack - double scoop protein shake made with coffee and heavy cream (and 1/4 cup oil to combat constipation)
AM Snack - King Size Hershey's w/Almonds Candy Bar
PM Snack - 1/2 container 4% fat cottage cheese w/fresh grown diced tomatoes
PM Snack - double scoop protein shake made with coffee and heavy cream (and 1/4 cup oil to combat constipation)
Dinner - salad made with chicken, avocado, TONS of cheese, walnuts, tomatoes, and LOTS of dressing
My totals were:
Protein = 229
Fat = 288
Carbs = 72 net  (DAMN CANDY BAR!!)
Marci       
newyorkbitch
on 6/28/11 9:58 pm
I crave carbohydrates all the time, and it is NOT what my body needs.

I am 11+ years post-op.  This is what I ate yesterday,  and this is not unusual for me:

breakfast:
yogurt
2 eggs
piece of toasted challah with butter
an apple

out to lunch:
pickled pork tongue
a beer
cheese
foie gras
snails with bone marrow
beef tartare
hearty bread
salad
sour cherry pie

out to dinner:
mache salad
kase-spaetzle
snails with herb butter on a baguette
maultaschen (oxtail stuffed ravioli, sort of)
potato salad,  cucumber salad
wiener schnitzel
black forest cherry cake
wine

I counted nothing.  I never do. My DS does its job very well.  My weight is stable and I am at a perfect weight for me.  I look good, I feel good, my malabsorption works. I make sure to eat plenty of protein and if I feel my weight creep,  I cut back on the simple carbs.  That's my whole story.


(deactivated member)
on 6/28/11 8:41 am
What they said! Plus I thought you'd like to see this fabulous post from Jenna:

http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/amos/4193573/Eating-with-a -DS-A-Day-in-the-Life-pics/
k9ophile
on 6/28/11 9:04 am
I suppose having to eat a ton of meat is one way of thinking about.  I prefer being able to eat a ton of meat without having to chew it into a tasteless blob.  Nor do I worry about it getting stuck like it can with other types of surgery where the opening into the digestive tract is altered or restricted. 

Two days before my surgery, I met a woman who was looking forward to going to Outback for a few bites of baked potato and fat from a steak.  She could have gone to Wendy's for the potato. When I go to the Outback I get a way better meal than a potato.  Hmmm...steak!  (She had a band.  I'm not bashing the band;  but, really, that's why the band didn't excite me.   I was afraid of having to eat like that.)

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Crazeru
on 6/28/11 9:37 am, edited 6/28/11 9:37 am
I'm one of the few that had diarrhea problems for months before I found Chia seeds.  They really helped.  I'd also done an elimination diet, it was my guts.  I'd had problems with several BMs and diarrhea before my DS and it was still there after.  Some of it was the chewable vitamins and the SF products, really bothered me.  Somedays it may be 4-6 BMs other time 10-15...  I have problems with several of the probiotics that I've tried and use a maintenance dose of Flagyl now for the gas.

Like Julie, I was having problems with bring my D up, but started taking my A, D, E, & K away from food in the middle of the night, and all values are coming up now.

Chris
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