Ds people HAVE to eat tons of meat
I have been reading through several of these post and doing tons of research and never have heard any of this!! She said that her friend had ds abd that is where she got the info from! I think she is full of ****!! Lol thanks guy I just was like ok how come I have never heard this before! Does anyone know what she means by a sleeve on top and rny on the bottom?
Fo' Shizzle My Sizzle
on 6/28/11 12:05 am
on 6/28/11 12:05 am
I've never heard the top and bottom sleeve term used before, I suspect she doesn't know what she's talking about, it just doesn't make sense.
for the DS what happens is the greater curvature of the stomach is removed, you are left with a smaller stomach with an intact pylorus (we all love our pylorus and it loves us back). The new stomach is sometimes called a "sleeve", this part of the surgery is similar to the VSG. However there is no such thing as a "sleeve" on the "bottom". A large portion of the small instestine is bypassed so the food goes through a much shorter amount of small intestine to reach the large intestine, but this not called a "sleeve" , you can't "sleeve" an instestine.
Strange! I wonder where she got that info from.
for the DS what happens is the greater curvature of the stomach is removed, you are left with a smaller stomach with an intact pylorus (we all love our pylorus and it loves us back). The new stomach is sometimes called a "sleeve", this part of the surgery is similar to the VSG. However there is no such thing as a "sleeve" on the "bottom". A large portion of the small instestine is bypassed so the food goes through a much shorter amount of small intestine to reach the large intestine, but this not called a "sleeve" , you can't "sleeve" an instestine.
Strange! I wonder where she got that info from.
Sleve on top and rny on the bottom is kind of the worst of both worlds. As others have explained the 'normal' proximal rny only gives you about 15% malabsorbtion and your body adapts to it in 2 years or less so in the long run, that's why some rny folks gain their weight back.
BTW, everyone knows a friend of a second cousin's brother who had the (name your surgery) and died, stunk, spent the rest of his life on the toilet, gained all his weight back, and had serious complications. People have strong opinions on WLS of all kinds and usually they have no idea what they are talking about.
BTW, everyone knows a friend of a second cousin's brother who had the (name your surgery) and died, stunk, spent the rest of his life on the toilet, gained all his weight back, and had serious complications. People have strong opinions on WLS of all kinds and usually they have no idea what they are talking about.
Her friend may or may not have had the DS. Who knows what she really has. Now MAYBE where she got this is that in some cases the literature describes the intestinal configuration as a "Roux-en-Y" configuration, and then goes on to specify where the anastomoses are placed and the general length of the common channel. This is NOT saying it's an RNY on the bottom. Some surgeons dislike this description altogether, I know my surgeon does.
You do have to eat a lot of protein as a DSer and meat is an efficient way to do that, but there are other ways to get protein in, it just takes more of those foods and that can be a challenge.
Yes, because the DS is the most malabsorptive of the WLS procedures, we do deal with deficiencies more than others do. It is therefore IMPERATIVE that we stay on top of our vitamins, minerals, supplements, nutrition, and get regular labs.
Some DSers DO spend a lot of time on the toilet. You won't know how you will be affected by certain foods et****il you are there. Usually the toilet issues can be helped by making dietary changes - but there is no guarantee of that.
Yes, because the DS is the most malabsorptive of the WLS procedures, we do deal with deficiencies more than others do. It is therefore IMPERATIVE that we stay on top of our vitamins, minerals, supplements, nutrition, and get regular labs.
Some DSers DO spend a lot of time on the toilet. You won't know how you will be affected by certain foods et****il you are there. Usually the toilet issues can be helped by making dietary changes - but there is no guarantee of that.
Not true.
You don't have to eat ANY meat if you don't want to. You DO have to get 100 grams of protein a day. Where you get that from is your own decision.
We have more issues with constipation than diarrhea because calcium and iron can both be constipating. Most of us have learned what we have to eat (more fat) or take (stool softeners, magnesium oxide capsules or whatever) to keep us from being constipated.
We do have to be rigorous in supplementing, vitamins and labs. Yes we do. But guess what, so do people who have the RnY.
~Becky
You don't have to eat ANY meat if you don't want to. You DO have to get 100 grams of protein a day. Where you get that from is your own decision.
We have more issues with constipation than diarrhea because calcium and iron can both be constipating. Most of us have learned what we have to eat (more fat) or take (stool softeners, magnesium oxide capsules or whatever) to keep us from being constipated.
We do have to be rigorous in supplementing, vitamins and labs. Yes we do. But guess what, so do people who have the RnY.
~Becky
I've gotta be honest... I am looking forward to eating meat. Lots and lots of meat. I'm not quite three weeks out yet and all I can eat is pureed tuna. Blah. I want chicken and corned beef and keilbasa. Oh, and cheese. I can hardly wait to eat cheese again either. I'm tired of cream of soups, cottage cheese, beans and tuna. I want bacon and eggs, neither of which I can eat yet. I am a-OK with eating a lot of meat and cheese. Bring it on!
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