Some of you newbies and DS wannabes **** me off. LONG rant about life and death here.

What a great Post Thank you for taking the time! I hope newbies and Pre-Ops Take this to Heart! 

RIP Norm! 

 

Yeah!!!!  Excellent post, as usual.  An IQ test pre-op would be a great starting point, but a common sense test would be better--sadly, I don't think they exist. 

Any wonder why you've become one of my dearest friends?  I think not.  Thank you for caring enough to take the time to post this.  I have tried, really-really, tried to start posts like this one, but I erase it unable to completely convey my thoughts on the subject.  You have said everything I've been thinking, and put it down in an easy to read fomat.  (Unlike my ramblings that go on ad-nauseum)!!  I have bookmarked this post and will be referring people to it often.

I love you Nicolle.

Lori

Awesome post, Nicolle. It is so true and is what is soooo frustrating to those of us who have done the heavy work ourselves and now have people demanding that we spoon-feed it to them and then they STILL ignore it! I may have stumbled onto the DS by choosing my surgeon before choosing my surgery (lucky me chose Dr. Keshishian who did nothing BUT the DS when I had my surgery!), but before I started rattling off all sorts of questions I did my own due dilligence on the medical aspects of this surgery. Only after I felt that I had a good handle on it did I come on here and start asking any questions of those who had gone before me. And honestly, most of my posts were about my approval process and my excitement leading up to surgery!

Note to the selfish people out there who are at this very moment getting all indignant about this post and the responses to it. If you are getting upset at what this post has to say, that is your FIRST CLUE that you just might be one of the idiot ******** who should not be getting the DS done. Your sense of entitlement is convincing you that everyone has to give and give and give as you demand or else what good is a message board, right? WRONG. Wake up and smell the coffee before you end up getting perished, and for a whole lot stupider reasons that the wonderful Norm who was doing his best to live a life worth living.

I agree with your post for the most part. There are going to be new members coming over who are not going to research because they are not computer whizkids or they are scared. Those who frequent the site can recognize new newbies, so don't be afraid to post your questions if you are brand new here.
 
And those who are trolling, you are making it hard for us to support the real searchers. If your goal is to hurt those searching for information, you are doing a bang up job.

Those who are so new to the site and to the surgery they do not know how to search and that they can search, you should ask your question. And we will answer those patiently.

I understand this post is meant for those who just type their questions, like spitting up. They spew forth with no regard for others time or energy. And those should just reflect on the points outlined by you.

And yes, this surgery can be a great risk. It is a life changing physical and emotional event. It is the best chance at a normal life some of us have. But yes, it is a gamble and is any time you cut into your body. And it isn't a decision that should be taken lightly.

Thanks Nicolle for taking the time to remind us how lucky we all are.

Brilliant, just brilliant Nicolle.  You have written so clearly what I have struggled with quite a bit lately - to the point that I've stayed away from this board quite a bit.  I would get so worked up reading some of the posts that it wasn't worth my own energy to get upset by it.

My surgeon has his own form of radar - and he HAS turned down patients that he feels will not go along with the rules.  Hell, at one point, he was questioning me - and I know why he does it - to make sure that I (and everyone else) understands just how big of a gun this surgery is.

For the love, newbies and those researching, do yourselves a favor and listen.  Nicolle is wise beyond what many will understand.

Grateful,

Sharon

He has outstanding radar :-). I always laugh when he tells me he doesn't have a psychological bone in his body.

Newbies and folks doing research: If you feel guilty upon reading this thread, chances are that either it wasn't written with you in mind, OR you recognize the truths contained therein and now you can apply them to yourself. That is a very good thing. The ability to have insight and change oneself is a marvelous thing, in fact.

If you feel indignant/angry/put upon, that's a symptom that you are one of those ******** she's so aptly described. You want to believe your surgeon's RNY pamphlet as gospel for the DS? Okay, fine. Just go the **** AWAY from here. Go live like you had a surgery you didn't have. And when you develop problems and decide you want advice, come back and take the lumps you so richly deserve, and then LISTEN TO THE ******G ADVICE WITHOUT WHINING ABOUT HOW IT'S DELIVERED.

If you can't handle a blunt response to your posts, don't post on an open to the public board. Find a nice safe private forum where you feel safe posting and take your stuff there. Believe me, I understand all too well about feeling unsafe. Just don't expect the world to conform to what makes YOU safe. The world is not obligated to change for your benefit.

There is not really all that much to living life right with the DS. The rules are simple. They do not guarantee total weight loss, total health, or a totally comfortable belly. When you alter your digestive tract, you take the risk of feeling different and possibly developing sensitivities down there for life. You'll have to make choices about how to view those issues and how to deal with them. Those are some of the risks.

You might have a bad outcome even if you do everything right. It CAN HAPPEN. Don't delude yourself into thinking it only happens to other people. I've had a totally flawless outcome so far. But every day I think, "So far, so good." I know it could be changing right now.

This is very serious **** That cannot be emphasized enough. If you're here to have the surgery that lets you eat whatever you want and be hot and skinny and sexy, go away. You don't get it. You're risking your life thinking that way.

Exactly !!!!

Very well said.  

And shame on me for not including this in my first response.  I remember Norm, as we all should.

RIP Tiny.