Need Info on Diabetes
Hi my name is Asia. I had the RNY done 13 months ago. I never had diabetes so I really don't know nothing about it. Recently I just got involved with the man that is so sweet. He is 400+ lbs and has diabetes for the last 20 years. He is 37. WLS is not in his cards because he depends on his weight for work. I know it is so bad but he is an actor and that is just the way it is. He said that he can lose at least 100 lbs or maybe more and it won't affect his work. He is starting to hit the gym. My question is as for food is it just the same as ours dietary needs. You know protein first, low carbs, plenty vegstables. You know just eating that way or is there something else that I need to know. Its funny I was big and married a skinny guy and now that I am tiny I want the big guy. Ok friends please let me know.
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Ok Asia..u gotta send me a PM..wassup? anyways, there 2 types of diabetes. type 1 is when the pancreas does not make any insulin at all to break down sugars and type 2 is when the pancreas makes very little insulin. diabetics have to watch both sugars and carbs as the carbs turn to sugars. i believe that for diabetic patients, they have to have 45g of carbs per meal..no more. has he ever seen a CDE (certified diabetes educator)? they help alot..anyway email me when u can.
Everyone's eating plan is a little different. Mine allows 45 gm carb for breakfast 45 for lunch and 60 for dinner plus a 15 gm snack mid afternoon. Men usually have more carbs allowed. In addition to the carbs,I can have all the non carby vegs,I want,ie salad greens,spinach,collard greens,turnip greens etc. Fruits have to be watched carefully as they have so much natural sugar.
My PCP recently told me to start eating 5-6 smaller meals a day instead of three larger ones to try to even out the insulin/BS equation.
Good luck,
Holly
My PCP recently told me to start eating 5-6 smaller meals a day instead of three larger ones to try to even out the insulin/BS equation.
Good luck,
Holly
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on 10/14/09 9:38 pm - Woodbridge, VA
on 10/14/09 9:38 pm - Woodbridge, VA
I do NOT recommend a diabetes educator. Recent studies are showing that the amount of carbs they recommend is TOO HIGH for most diabetics and will NOT help to stop the progression of the disease. Many diabetics (I'm speaking for type 2s, here) find a diet of 50g carbs or less PER DAY to be the most helpful - professionals just don't want to tell patients that because they're afraid the patient will think it's too restrictive and won't stick to it.
Of course, being on insulin changes the game, as you can "cover" your carbs - not sure if he is on insulin or not, and I never have been.
Of course, being on insulin changes the game, as you can "cover" your carbs - not sure if he is on insulin or not, and I never have been.
50 carbs per day is not enough for a guy like that to function. Also loading up on high proteins can be hard on one's kidneys, so programs like atkins are not diabetic healthy. He has had this disease for 20 years chances are, he may have some kidney issues, its just a typical thing. Basically healthy eating is good for anyone! Things to avoid are items that turn to sugar in the system rapidly, so reading about glycemic index is a good idea. Even too much natural sugars can whammy the blood sugars.
An educator knows a thing or two about diabetes, and would be helpful if needed. Though just not sure what level of advice your seeking. So would not heed advice warning you about not seeing one if thats what you need.
There is a simple book you can even pick up at walmart - Diabeties for Dummies. It breaks it down to give you a basic understanding just what the disease is and what have you.
I'm a type 1 diabetic for over 24 years, and so I know a few things about the disease.
Got any more specific questions please feel free to PM me - Good Luck
An educator knows a thing or two about diabetes, and would be helpful if needed. Though just not sure what level of advice your seeking. So would not heed advice warning you about not seeing one if thats what you need.
There is a simple book you can even pick up at walmart - Diabeties for Dummies. It breaks it down to give you a basic understanding just what the disease is and what have you.
I'm a type 1 diabetic for over 24 years, and so I know a few things about the disease.
Got any more specific questions please feel free to PM me - Good Luck
Type 1 diabetic for 25 years - pumping for 12 years.
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on 10/26/09 9:25 am - Woodbridge, VA
on 10/26/09 9:25 am - Woodbridge, VA
I would agree that if there is impaired kidney function, high protein may not be appropriate. However, I disagree that 50g carbs per day is too low. I function just fine on 12-15g carbs per day (total, not net). Your body can create glycogen through gluconeogenesis to support the functions that otherwise require carbohydrates.
I recommend www.bloodglucose101.com and www.diabetesforums.com.
I recommend www.bloodglucose101.com and www.diabetesforums.com.
Hi Asia,
Everyone is different. If you can figure out how many carbs he is eating per day and then lower that amount for him, he should start losing weight. Couple that with working out at the gym and the should do fine.
As for what he can eat, Think fresh and think made from scratch. You don't want a lot of processed foods.
Good snacks:
Sliced apples with crunchy peanut butter
Celery with crunchy peanut butter
carrots
Breakfast:
lower carbs are better because normally if you have been diabetic for a long time, your body just doesn't process the hit of carbs well in the am. So, that said....oatmeal might be better for lunch than for breakfast.
Eggs/Toast w/PB
CN Bacon
Low Fat cottage cheese
Toast w/PB
Low Fat string cheese
Greek Yogurt...Chobani is excellent and about 20 carbs per container...works as a desert as well.
Fridge snacks: I also keep carrots...already chopped, celery...already chopped, grapes...some frozen in the summer, cherries...when in season....watermelon...not too often because the body absorbs it quickly and tangerines because fresh fruit is always preferable to any kind of chip!
Popcorn....buy the 100 calorie bags...flavor with chili seasoning, parmesan cheese, garlic powder, artificial sweetner...almost anything that comes in powder form.
Lunch:
Sandwich and soup. I stick to turkey or chicken, lean meats, ham, etc. and whole wheat bread. Soup will help fill him up. The Imagine Organic Brand sold at King's supermarkets is very good, low in salt and filling.
Pizza....depends on his size, but probably 2 slices along with a large salad w diet dressing or olive oil and vinegar. I prefer white pizza because I can never tell how much sugar people put in their sauce. White pizza with CN bacon and pineapple on it is awesome. Try to look for thin crust instead of thick.
Oatmeal and a salad. Oatmeal is kind of stick to your ribs food. Don't get the flavored packages. Buy the kind you have to measure and make on the stove. Plus you can flavor it with cinnamon or a piece of dark chocolate...maybe a dove piece, something you know the serving size and portion of, etc.
Dinner: Always with a salad.
Lean meats....like those rotissery chickens are great. There is a lot you can do with them to dress them up. I like mine with fresh-home made cranberry sauce so I can control the sugar.
Turkey breast....they also sell rotissery turkey breast in our store. Love them!
London Broil works well as a steak because its a little tougher than most cuts of meat, so you have to chew longer to get it down and actually eat less.
Meat loaf....use the whole wheat bread in it. Add some onions and peppers before baking it and that will give it a little extra flavor. Don't forget the egg to hold it together! I top mine with tomato sauce or with brown gravy depending on the mood. I actually make meatballs the same way, but w/onions only and bake them as well.
As for pasta...stick to the low carb one. The whole wheat ones are not my favorite, but again the low carb one...the name escapes me completely is very good and much better than regular pasta carb-wise. I don't eat pasta anymore at all, but that was the only one I could eat.
Veggies....anything fresh and in season.
Cauliflower Bake.....boil cauliflower first and then put into an oven safe dish ad low fat cheese, garlic powder,salt and pepper and bake on about 350 until browned on top. This is really yummy and totally filling.
Or you can make that string bean thing....frozen beans and cream of mushroom or cream of chicken soup....then you bake it with some onion things on top. I just leave off the onions as they don't thrill me, but the beans come out moist and delish!
Creamed spinach is really yummy when you add some sauteed onions to it. I buy the chopped frozen ones in the freezer section, sautee until translucent and then add them to the spinach. Yum!
For low blood sugars, I always carry a large pack of raisins and some glucose drops.
Good luck and if you need any help or have any questions, do not hesitate to contact me. I've been diabetic for 31 years, so I've got some good recipes! LOL...also, I would not recommend a diabetes educator as they tend to be a little too dramatic for my taste. However, I would recommend a nutritionist that is familiar with diabetic patients. They can be invaluable!
Best,
Heidi
Everyone is different. If you can figure out how many carbs he is eating per day and then lower that amount for him, he should start losing weight. Couple that with working out at the gym and the should do fine.
As for what he can eat, Think fresh and think made from scratch. You don't want a lot of processed foods.
Good snacks:
Sliced apples with crunchy peanut butter
Celery with crunchy peanut butter
carrots
Breakfast:
lower carbs are better because normally if you have been diabetic for a long time, your body just doesn't process the hit of carbs well in the am. So, that said....oatmeal might be better for lunch than for breakfast.
Eggs/Toast w/PB
CN Bacon
Low Fat cottage cheese
Toast w/PB
Low Fat string cheese
Greek Yogurt...Chobani is excellent and about 20 carbs per container...works as a desert as well.
Fridge snacks: I also keep carrots...already chopped, celery...already chopped, grapes...some frozen in the summer, cherries...when in season....watermelon...not too often because the body absorbs it quickly and tangerines because fresh fruit is always preferable to any kind of chip!
Popcorn....buy the 100 calorie bags...flavor with chili seasoning, parmesan cheese, garlic powder, artificial sweetner...almost anything that comes in powder form.
Lunch:
Sandwich and soup. I stick to turkey or chicken, lean meats, ham, etc. and whole wheat bread. Soup will help fill him up. The Imagine Organic Brand sold at King's supermarkets is very good, low in salt and filling.
Pizza....depends on his size, but probably 2 slices along with a large salad w diet dressing or olive oil and vinegar. I prefer white pizza because I can never tell how much sugar people put in their sauce. White pizza with CN bacon and pineapple on it is awesome. Try to look for thin crust instead of thick.
Oatmeal and a salad. Oatmeal is kind of stick to your ribs food. Don't get the flavored packages. Buy the kind you have to measure and make on the stove. Plus you can flavor it with cinnamon or a piece of dark chocolate...maybe a dove piece, something you know the serving size and portion of, etc.
Dinner: Always with a salad.
Lean meats....like those rotissery chickens are great. There is a lot you can do with them to dress them up. I like mine with fresh-home made cranberry sauce so I can control the sugar.
Turkey breast....they also sell rotissery turkey breast in our store. Love them!
London Broil works well as a steak because its a little tougher than most cuts of meat, so you have to chew longer to get it down and actually eat less.
Meat loaf....use the whole wheat bread in it. Add some onions and peppers before baking it and that will give it a little extra flavor. Don't forget the egg to hold it together! I top mine with tomato sauce or with brown gravy depending on the mood. I actually make meatballs the same way, but w/onions only and bake them as well.
As for pasta...stick to the low carb one. The whole wheat ones are not my favorite, but again the low carb one...the name escapes me completely is very good and much better than regular pasta carb-wise. I don't eat pasta anymore at all, but that was the only one I could eat.
Veggies....anything fresh and in season.
Cauliflower Bake.....boil cauliflower first and then put into an oven safe dish ad low fat cheese, garlic powder,salt and pepper and bake on about 350 until browned on top. This is really yummy and totally filling.
Or you can make that string bean thing....frozen beans and cream of mushroom or cream of chicken soup....then you bake it with some onion things on top. I just leave off the onions as they don't thrill me, but the beans come out moist and delish!
Creamed spinach is really yummy when you add some sauteed onions to it. I buy the chopped frozen ones in the freezer section, sautee until translucent and then add them to the spinach. Yum!
For low blood sugars, I always carry a large pack of raisins and some glucose drops.
Good luck and if you need any help or have any questions, do not hesitate to contact me. I've been diabetic for 31 years, so I've got some good recipes! LOL...also, I would not recommend a diabetes educator as they tend to be a little too dramatic for my taste. However, I would recommend a nutritionist that is familiar with diabetic patients. They can be invaluable!
Best,
Heidi
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