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Topic: RE: motility issues/severe constipation after RGB
Well, THAT was helpful. I'll leave it for when you find you need protein, but THIS is the formula to which I referred.
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I had chronic constipation for 11 years. I tried: more fiber, less fiber, soluble fiber, insoluble fiber, no fiber, both fibers, stool softeners, Smooth Moves & Correctol teas and Metamucil wafers, together, apart, more water, less water, cut out anything bu****er (and protein), senna, cascara sagrada, everything one could possibly try until I was basically dependent on enemas for 3 yrs.
Miralax helped the stool be passable. It was rx and finally became generic, so went from $80 for 3 months to $20 for 3 months. Now it is OTC, but is about $8 for 5-6 servings. If you can get the rx, it is much cheaper, safe, daily, for life, according to my GI doc.
The stool softeners are store brand equal to Colace, not PERI-colace.
Word was that magnesium citrate was such a great thing. This is pills, not the green bottle, so I tried it and nothing happened, and so I kept increasing it. What DID happen is that my foot and leg cramps ceased. So, I kept doing that and tried magnesium oxide. This is small, cheap, found anywhere, like drug stores. And finally, it worked. Mine are 500 mg and I take 2.
My final formula:
1 serving MiraLax (rx) *
4 stool softeners at night
1 mag ox with lunch, 1 with dinner
In the morning, hot beverage first thing on empty gut
This has worked for several years yrs now.
* MiraLax was rx only until the end of 2007, and is now generic by rx. The original name brand is available at drug stores at about $20 for a large bottle. You might want to try one first, taken daily, at about the same time. If it solves the problem, then ask your doc for rx. It is NOT a laxative. It is safe, daily, taken for life, per 4 doctors I've asked. It was a pediatrician who introduced me to it. My rx plan allows me to have 6 of those big bottles every 3 months for $20. Check with your doc and your insurance to see if it's beneficial to buy it by rx. BTW, my doc writes for 2 servings per day, because they might SAY there are 30 servings per bottle, but somebody can't count. Me or them? I use only one, but if I spill or get too much, I still have enough to last til next refill.
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I had chronic constipation for 11 years. I tried: more fiber, less fiber, soluble fiber, insoluble fiber, no fiber, both fibers, stool softeners, Smooth Moves & Correctol teas and Metamucil wafers, together, apart, more water, less water, cut out anything bu****er (and protein), senna, cascara sagrada, everything one could possibly try until I was basically dependent on enemas for 3 yrs.
Miralax helped the stool be passable. It was rx and finally became generic, so went from $80 for 3 months to $20 for 3 months. Now it is OTC, but is about $8 for 5-6 servings. If you can get the rx, it is much cheaper, safe, daily, for life, according to my GI doc.
The stool softeners are store brand equal to Colace, not PERI-colace.
Word was that magnesium citrate was such a great thing. This is pills, not the green bottle, so I tried it and nothing happened, and so I kept increasing it. What DID happen is that my foot and leg cramps ceased. So, I kept doing that and tried magnesium oxide. This is small, cheap, found anywhere, like drug stores. And finally, it worked. Mine are 500 mg and I take 2.
My final formula:
1 serving MiraLax (rx) *
4 stool softeners at night
1 mag ox with lunch, 1 with dinner
In the morning, hot beverage first thing on empty gut
This has worked for several years yrs now.
* MiraLax was rx only until the end of 2007, and is now generic by rx. The original name brand is available at drug stores at about $20 for a large bottle. You might want to try one first, taken daily, at about the same time. If it solves the problem, then ask your doc for rx. It is NOT a laxative. It is safe, daily, taken for life, per 4 doctors I've asked. It was a pediatrician who introduced me to it. My rx plan allows me to have 6 of those big bottles every 3 months for $20. Check with your doc and your insurance to see if it's beneficial to buy it by rx. BTW, my doc writes for 2 servings per day, because they might SAY there are 30 servings per bottle, but somebody can't count. Me or them? I use only one, but if I spill or get too much, I still have enough to last til next refill.
Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94
P.S. My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.
Topic: RE: motility issues/severe constipation after RGB
I did not have those issues, but will post my formula in case it might help you at all.
Also, you will have SOME malabsorption, so should supplement as if you were WLS person. Your duodenum will still be bypassed, resulting in issues with iron, calcium, B12, folic, all the fat solubles, zinc and magnesium.
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Any of these are what I use:
1.) Gaspari Myofusion double chocolate or chocolate peanut butter OR a combo
of those 2 with 6-8 oz water + about 1/2 **** I use a Magic Bullet or a
hand blender. Full sized blenders double the size of my drink and make me
burp too much! Using this method, I get a thicker or thinner Wendy's Frosty
type drink, depending on the ice/water ratio
2.) Champion Pure Whey Stack choco + 6-8 oz water, shaken.
3.) IDS vanilla-cinnamon + "glop" of DaVinci sugar free caramel sauce + 8 oz
water + ice, blended.
4.) the PWS chco + the van-cin (50/50) in about 10 oz ho****er, stirred or
hand blender.
They deliver 30g protein, less than 3g sugar, less than 200 calories, when
made with water.
Lately I've been adding a shake of cinnamon to my hot ones since cinnamon
fights belly fat.
Also, you will have SOME malabsorption, so should supplement as if you were WLS person. Your duodenum will still be bypassed, resulting in issues with iron, calcium, B12, folic, all the fat solubles, zinc and magnesium.
****
Any of these are what I use:
1.) Gaspari Myofusion double chocolate or chocolate peanut butter OR a combo
of those 2 with 6-8 oz water + about 1/2 **** I use a Magic Bullet or a
hand blender. Full sized blenders double the size of my drink and make me
burp too much! Using this method, I get a thicker or thinner Wendy's Frosty
type drink, depending on the ice/water ratio
2.) Champion Pure Whey Stack choco + 6-8 oz water, shaken.
3.) IDS vanilla-cinnamon + "glop" of DaVinci sugar free caramel sauce + 8 oz
water + ice, blended.
4.) the PWS chco + the van-cin (50/50) in about 10 oz ho****er, stirred or
hand blender.
They deliver 30g protein, less than 3g sugar, less than 200 calories, when
made with water.
Lately I've been adding a shake of cinnamon to my hot ones since cinnamon
fights belly fat.
Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94
P.S. My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.
Topic: RE: How many of us have had to/need to be revised from the "Band"?
HW: 474 OpW: 406 CW: 267 Twitter - @bwohlgemuth, same with FB
-100lbs 08/17/2010 -200lbs 02/28/2011 OpGoal: 07/05/2011
Abdominoplasty 3/2012
I know way too many people with complications from the band. The band is great if you have to lose 50 pesky pounds, but for anyone with significant obesity or food issues....it's a quck fix. And a crappy one at that.
HW: 474 OpW: 406 CW: 267 Twitter - @bwohlgemuth, same with FB
-100lbs 08/17/2010 -200lbs 02/28/2011 OpGoal: 07/05/2011
Abdominoplasty 3/2012
Topic: RE: Low bp 90/53 p94, low iron, severse stomach cramps, bloated stomach
Glad I logged on today. I really should do this more often. I have not the BP problems but I have had the others. I had an abddominal hernia after the RnY. It took a while to get my surgeon to take me seriously about the bloating. The scale could vary as much as 10 pounds in a day. He finally went in a found the hernia like the one described by another poster.
After the DS, I have had few problems other than the continued "noxious" gas. It now comes and goes. Can't find what I do to bring it on other than eating sugar. I did have a bout with anemia; bad enough to require infusions.
Eating is a chore. Nothing ever sounds good and I don't enjoy it. Sometimes I have to really think about whether I've eaten anything nutritious that day or not. I often joke that I will die of malnutrition before any other disease. I joke but at the same time I know it is a serious concern and worry.
I started having the pain and bloating again all of a sudden. First time in a long time. It is reminiscent of the time I had the hernia. The bloating is so tight in the upper abdoment that I can thump it as you would a watermelon.
I'm off the gastroenterologist tomorrow. I will post with results for others to read.
After the DS, I have had few problems other than the continued "noxious" gas. It now comes and goes. Can't find what I do to bring it on other than eating sugar. I did have a bout with anemia; bad enough to require infusions.
Eating is a chore. Nothing ever sounds good and I don't enjoy it. Sometimes I have to really think about whether I've eaten anything nutritious that day or not. I often joke that I will die of malnutrition before any other disease. I joke but at the same time I know it is a serious concern and worry.
I started having the pain and bloating again all of a sudden. First time in a long time. It is reminiscent of the time I had the hernia. The bloating is so tight in the upper abdoment that I can thump it as you would a watermelon.
I'm off the gastroenterologist tomorrow. I will post with results for others to read.
Jamy V.
Houston Texas
TT 11/2008 178 lbs
CW 04/2008 175 lbs
DS 07/2005 272 lbs
RnY 03/2002 290 lbs
Houston Texas
TT 11/2008 178 lbs
CW 04/2008 175 lbs
DS 07/2005 272 lbs
RnY 03/2002 290 lbs
Topic: RE: 2.5 years since I had my RNY REVERSED
Hi Gus,
I noticed that you are in CA. Did you have your reversal in CA as well? If so, can you tell me who your surgeon was and if it was hard to get your reversal approved. I have Kaiser and I know they will do it as long as it's medically necessary, but I'm finding it difficult to find a doctor who will stand up and say yes, it's medically necessary.
I noticed that you are in CA. Did you have your reversal in CA as well? If so, can you tell me who your surgeon was and if it was hard to get your reversal approved. I have Kaiser and I know they will do it as long as it's medically necessary, but I'm finding it difficult to find a doctor who will stand up and say yes, it's medically necessary.
Topic: RE: 2.5 years since I had my RNY REVERSED
Wow!! I'm so sorry that you are experiencing complications, and I can definately understand where you are coming from. I too have been experiencing the same symptoms as you described for the last 4 almost 5 months since I had the RNY surgery. I have been seen by numerous specialist and psychologists and few agree that I need a reversal (which I agree as well) because I am not getting better, but worse. But then there are the few that totally disagree and have even gone as far as telling me that "NO ONE" gets a reversal of the surgery (all lies). I am still searching and seeking help because I know if I continue down this path I'm going to be in serious trouble and could be facing death. I even had one doctor tell me that nausea, vomiting, major depression, and not eating was no reason to have a reversal of the surgery and maybe I'll just have to be on a surgically inserted feeding tube for life if I can't eat. This is no way to live and I know it's only been a few months, but I have been on every medication for the nausea and even have tried holistic remedies and nothing is working. I pray that your surgeon does not give you a hassel when you ask for a reversal, because we all know what is going on in our bodies and if something is not right. I refuse to take no for an answer at this point because right now I have no life and I am solely dependent on others for my care and the care of my daughter because I just can't do it on my own anymore. I hope that your surgeon really listens to you and what you are experiencing on a daily bases. So many doctors don't listen because they are so bent on their statistics and success stories that they don't want to hear anything against the surgery. All I can say is don't take "NO" for an answer. You know what is best for you and your family. I hope all goes well for you...and if you don't mind please keep me updated, I would like to know your progress and I'll do the same.
Topic: RE: reverse gastric bypass
Hiya,
I had the RNY Gastric Bypass in 2000 in Ohio. At first I did really good got down to 225 from over 400 lbs. All the sudden I had more attention from men then I knew how to handle, it really freaked me out and I deliberately stopped the weight loss. Ive gone back up to over 300 as a result.
My problem is that I am in very bad shape from lack of absorbtion. My doctor told me I was basically getting about 25-50% of the nutrients from food. To my surprise and dismay I find that I have a rare allergy to b12 in any manufactored form. Even blood specialist have made the comment about never having actually met anyone with it, its very discouraging.
Right now my b12 count is so low the doctors are panicking a bit trying to find alternatives to getting it up, and im starving all the time and meat seems to be the only thing that satisfies for a bit. I recently switched doctors and now my new doctor is talking about looking into reversing the RnY operation and from what Im reading that isnt even an option after so long. Im tired of fighting this and donating blood to the vampires and struggling to find more information for the doctors that are clueless how to help me. I have no energy, im constantly fatigued, i forget things, my work is furious at the amount of time im missing because sometimes I just cant seem to crawl out of bed, I catch anything that comes through because my immune system is connected to the b12 levels.
I guess I need to hear that there is someone else out there that is going through this and leading a normal life. And not sure what to tell my dr when he suggests the reversal again.
I had the RNY Gastric Bypass in 2000 in Ohio. At first I did really good got down to 225 from over 400 lbs. All the sudden I had more attention from men then I knew how to handle, it really freaked me out and I deliberately stopped the weight loss. Ive gone back up to over 300 as a result.
My problem is that I am in very bad shape from lack of absorbtion. My doctor told me I was basically getting about 25-50% of the nutrients from food. To my surprise and dismay I find that I have a rare allergy to b12 in any manufactored form. Even blood specialist have made the comment about never having actually met anyone with it, its very discouraging.
Right now my b12 count is so low the doctors are panicking a bit trying to find alternatives to getting it up, and im starving all the time and meat seems to be the only thing that satisfies for a bit. I recently switched doctors and now my new doctor is talking about looking into reversing the RnY operation and from what Im reading that isnt even an option after so long. Im tired of fighting this and donating blood to the vampires and struggling to find more information for the doctors that are clueless how to help me. I have no energy, im constantly fatigued, i forget things, my work is furious at the amount of time im missing because sometimes I just cant seem to crawl out of bed, I catch anything that comes through because my immune system is connected to the b12 levels.
I guess I need to hear that there is someone else out there that is going through this and leading a normal life. And not sure what to tell my dr when he suggests the reversal again.
Topic: RE: 2.5 years since I had my RNY REVERSED
I had mine reversed after 5 years and my life is back. For those who have not had complications, god bless them and always listen to your body and be proactive in seeking medical attention.
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on 7/12/11 7:08 am - London, United Kingdom
on 7/12/11 7:08 am - London, United Kingdom
Topic: RE: Can Vitamin Deficiencies Affect Weight Loss after WLS?
And finally to reply to the question the subject, I've read that vitamin deficiencies can affect weight loss in normies (ie people without WLS), so if that's the case then it'd affect people with nutrient malabsorption worse.
BTW a doc telling your lab results are 'normal' isn't always normal for someone with intestinal re-routing. I know on the DS board some people post their labs and others review them and give them feedback. Maybe they do something similar on the RNY board.
I'd get in touch with Michelle/Vitalady and see how she can help, as she's really helped a lot DSers and is very loved on that forum.
BTW a doc telling your lab results are 'normal' isn't always normal for someone with intestinal re-routing. I know on the DS board some people post their labs and others review them and give them feedback. Maybe they do something similar on the RNY board.
I'd get in touch with Michelle/Vitalady and see how she can help, as she's really helped a lot DSers and is very loved on that forum.
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