Hehe! Okay here are some. Speed Bench (sounds like a new designer drug) Power Cleans (what happens to me after a dose of Milk of Magnesia) Shrugs Diesel Shrugs Seated Machine Flies I am sure there are more. Kelly

Kelly you just crack me up!!! Are there any ones in particular that you are curious about? Val

I should also add... I did really light to no weight on my legs stuff. I only did the 80% of my max on the upper body stuff. Instead of regular squats I went way back to basics and did ball squats using just my body weight. I moved like a snail too so I can wake up and be pain free tomorrow too!

My husband is a personal trainer and does the same thing with some of his clients but he changes his routines up a lot depending on the goals. I've never seen him have people doing lots of cardio up front. I also feel better when I do it after. Lately I usually do a cardio warmup for 10 minutes to get the blood flowing, lift full body for 45 minutes or so, and then do a 10-20 min moderate to low instensity cardio after. On alternate days I just do cardio followed up by some abs/back stuff. Sometimes my husband and I will do more challenging interval type full body training where we do a series (3-5 resistance exercise sets x 3,) 10 min of moderate to higher intensity cardio to get the HR up, do another series, do another 10 mintues of cardio, repeat one more time. It keeps it interesting and I don't get a chance to get bored like I do sometimes with longer cardio. I keep my heart rate up the whole time but it can be exhausting. I'm pretty wiped after it. We do not do it on a regular basis. If I do a few weeks where I am not doing full body but a more traditional split (upper one day, lower or lets another) I would never even think about doing any cardio prior to doing leg stuff. On a heavy leg day I am lucky to make it for the full 20 minutes of cardio after lifting. Good luck with your training!! It is the best gift you can give to yourself!! I would never be where I am today exercise wise if it were not for the personal training. My husband has taught me so much in the last few years and I am always learning something new from all the research he does on a daily basis. I enjoy doing my own research as well. With him its rare that workouts are ever the same and they are always very creative. I like it that way! He also makes me feel confident enough that I can do stuff on my own if he isn't around.

Hiya Val, Yeah, I know that guilt thing, nasty little bugger isn't it? Life gets in the way sometimes. But please remember that fitness isn't ONLY about the weight training and the cardio, babe, it's also about nutrition and REST AND RECOVERY! If you run yourself down, and don't get the rest part, do you really think you would be doing your muscles a favor?? All that hard work you do in the gym isn't worth a hill of beans if you don't have the balancing part of rest and nutrition to complete the process. And all the experts agree that downtime, whether we want to take some of it from our workouts or not, generally confers benefits as well, provided that the downtime isn't so frequent as to bring one's priorities into question. Now, I'll tell ya, Val, that I shoot straight from the hip, and I am not one to coddle someone that needs a good swift kick in the pants more than an excuse not to do what they should be doing, but that's not you! Guilt-tripping is just another way to stress the body unnecessarily, increase those cortisol levels and undermine the work you're going to do today! So stop it! Be happy with your choice to rest, because it was the right one to make. Hugs, Donna E. www.teklawgirl.biz