so very confused

sweet_pea5k1
on 8/28/09 1:58 pm
Ok a lot is going on rightr now, I just found out that I am going to be putting out a thousand or more dollars for further testing related to pre cancerus cells found on my cervix. My health is of number one priority to be. I mean that is the whole reason I started this journey after all. I must put what little extra money I have from school in to takeing care of this probem. So I am found asking myself should I just can the whole wls idea and continue doing what I have done? It is after all working, there are people who don't lose 40lbs in 6 weeks post op little lone like me pre op. I honestly feel that I could be able to lose this weight on my own with a lot of will power. I know wls is a tool that would make it easer but at what cost?honestly I don't know. So I have this idea, what if I give myself tell christmas to lose 60 more lbs, if I can do 100lbs certainly I could lose 100 more right? Please help I need peoples openions, I would ask my family but they don't know about the whole pre cancer bit (except my husband and bff) and I want to keep it that way tell I know more.
Tkanks so much and God bless,
Melissa
 "Life is like a rainbow. You need both the sun and the rain to make its colors appear."
~Unknown

 
     
Stella-Blue
on 8/29/09 2:39 am - Where the four winds blow me safely home, NY
That's an intensely personal decision....I questioned my decision too after losing 80+ lbs pre op in preparation for surgery.  I have no regrets about my choice to go forth though. I lost almost 200 MORE lbs and am still losing.  Your cir****tances are different...I was developing endometrial carcinoma (I was diagnosed stage II and then UN diagnosed after more thorough surgical biopsies 2x pre RNY) my problem was exacerbated by my weight (too much estrogen) so losing weight ASAP was paramount.  I'm happy and my complex endometrial hyperplasia atypia has completely reversed! I am no longer at high risk for cancer (after 6 surgeries to make SURE) I'm off the elephantine doses of progesterone I was taking to prevent cancer too. 

I would talk to all your dr's and see what their opinions are and then make your decision.  Meanwhile keep up the awesome weight loss, you're doing so  well!  Whatever your final decision may be I wish you the best of luck and good health soon!

Take care 

Start: 487 lbs (8/07) Lost 81 lbs pre op on South Beach. 406 lbs at surgery (6/08). 179 post op, by 2011. I  lost 308 lbs. Gained 98 while pregnant (2012-13) lost all but 25. My goal is to be 179 again!
   siggy1 photo b83557eb-1c5e-4e0a-90b7-89760c2e36e2.jpg   Two years after that.... photo 44fcb3ac-18c4-4dfd-bf38-d324f956cf75.jpg      photo c2781653-fea8-4141-8cac-f0889127d077.jpg  I could not be happier. 

Donna C.
on 8/29/09 3:17 pm

First, I would definitely agree this is a tough situation and you should talk over any thoughts and plans with your oncologist.  I myself am a just over 3 years now survivor of endometrial cancer.  Like the other poster knows, adenocarcinoma feeds on estrogen and fat cells circulate a lot of estrogen.  Which is one of the many reasons now I feel I am ready to have an RNY to make sure I keep being cancer free in the years to come.  All this extra weight (ie, extra fat cells) are literally weighing against my long range odds of remaining cancer free.  I feel for you having to try to deal with both cancer and thoughts of WLS at the same time.   I am still preop.  Will hopefully be having my surgery 9/29, will be finally for sure when I see the surgeon on 9/03.  She wanted me to lose at least 60 pounds before my WLS and as of last week's visit with the nutritionist I have lost 50.  I know your thinking,  Am I doing the right thing?  When was the last time I was able to lose 50 pounds in less than a year.  I am doing good so far and I havn't even had the surgery yet.  Everyone has to answer these kinds of questions for themselves because everybody is different.  But, for me, I have never doubted my ability to be able to lose weight.  Scared about my upcoming cancer surgery in 2006 I dieted down to 406 by the time I had my TAH-BSO but then by August 2008 when I go to the wieght loss program center I go to I found myself at my highest ever 491!  I really dont believe losing weight is a question of will power.  A lot of things come to play, it is very complex.  I myself am an emotional eater, I lost my mom in 2008 and my sister in 2009 and so by August it did not come as a complete mystery to me that I had achieved my highest weight ever.  But, after much soul searching, I decided to get the WLS because I know time and time again I have proved I am an expert on losing weight, what I cant do is keep it off.  One time I lost 130 pounds on a med sup fast and as soon as I started eating regular food I started gain.  What I have never been able to do is maintain weight loss for any length of time.  I know, for me, at some point even if it is another year from now, if I did not have the WLS eventually I would stall out on the diet and stop being so ever vigilant and stray.  There is no amout of willpower that could help me maintain a 100 to 200 pound weight loss for the next 20 to 30 years, GOD WILLING, that I could possibly manage to have left on this planet. 
But this is something only you can answer for yourself.  Hope my ramblings helped you in any small way.  What ever you decide, I wish you all the BEST HEALING thoughts and prays coming your way. 

Friends are the family we choose for ourselves.

HW 491, BMI 70.4 *** SW 444, BMI 63.7 *** CW 364, BMI 52.5

 

       
(deactivated member)
on 9/5/09 10:36 am, edited 9/5/09 10:37 am - LOUISVILLE, KY
Hi I have a question about abnormal pap smear. My mom just got her test results back and they said  they saw abnormal cells in her pap and they said it was typical A , what does that mean? Is it cancerous?
Donna C.
on 9/5/09 1:20 pm
Lovelaughlive, Do you perhaps mean "atypical"?  In that case is ASCUS.  See waterwench's post.  Also, this is from a site explaining in laymen's terms. 

The Atypical Pap (ASCUS)

This is the category that drives women crazy!  This means some cells that are slightly funny looking, but not abnormal enough to call dysplasia.   (ASCUS stands for "atypical cells of undetermined significance.) This category could also be called "probably normal, but I want to keep a close eye on things."   There is a tremendous variation between labs on how many pap smears come back with this reading, which corresponds to the old "Class 2" classification.  Some labs will be very liberal in calling normal variations "atypical," which causes women to worry needlessly.  Other labs have stricter criteria for this classification.

Infection or vaginitis frequently causes this type of pap smear, so often the pap smear is repeated after the infection is treated.  It is common to get this type of pap smear after treatment of the cervix for dysplasia.  Since many studies show that 20% to 30% of women with this type of pap smear have dysplasia, it is a good idea to do colposcopy for pap smears that persist in showing these changes. 

Often these changes will persist off and on for years, but it is important to understand that this is not a significant problem if dysplasia has been ruled out by colposcopy.

Friends are the family we choose for ourselves.

HW 491, BMI 70.4 *** SW 444, BMI 63.7 *** CW 364, BMI 52.5

 

       
Waterwench
on 8/30/09 3:32 am - portland, OR
Depending on the results of your Pap smear, you will proceed in a calculated way: If it's ASCUS, they test the sample for HPV. If it's HPV positive, you will go in for a colposcopy (like a microscopic close-up look at the cells of your cervix). They will watch and wait, repeating the Pap in 6 months. If it's more advanced, they will try a LEEP procedure or a cone biopsy.

Early cervical dysplasia is very treatable, slow-growing and has a high recovery rate. You are very far from being doomed, although it is very scary to go through the uncertainty. My thoughts and prayers are with you!

P.S. I agree with the above posters. Losing weight has never been an issue with most of us--we can lose it just fine. It's reverting back to our old way of eating and responding to food that causes us to regain weight, after all our hard work. WLS at least gives us a chance to completely re-work our diet, exercise, and mind without as much physical hunger. HEAD HUNGER is the main enemy.
      
   "Fall down 7 times--STAND UP 8!"
              
sweet_pea5k1
on 8/30/09 3:53 am
First of all thanks for the supportive and informaitional postings. I am feeling better now, I think just the word cancer in realtionship to anyone you love little lone yourself provocks a sence of major fear. I think my mind went directly into the fight or flight mode. I do want this tool in my life, I am just so worried that this will have to be all behind me treated, or cuired how ever it works before I can have the operation done. I really don't know much about what is going on, my doctor is so flacky (probably because its a clinic for the unisured(still expensive). I hope that things can go forword in a timely fashon, I have done everything and passed except for this pap. I gueiss I just need to go forth and keep the faith that it will all work in accordance to Gods plans. I think after all I am human and just forgot that I must be a follower of his plans, not my own. Thanks again.
Melissa
 "Life is like a rainbow. You need both the sun and the rain to make its colors appear."
~Unknown

 
     
Loris
on 8/30/09 2:17 pm - Midlothian, VA
Take one thing at a time.  The info you were given about cervical dysplasia was right on.  Pre cancerous means just that, so you will not be having a complicated procedure.  I have had dysplasia three times years apart.  Each time the procedure was painless.  If hasn't come back in a decade, let alone advanced.   Promise me to PM with any questions.  I will be positive and encouraging.  Keep your faith like you said and keep turning it over in prayer.  I care.  Loris

                                     Loris  344/119@ 5'2" Below Goal                    
                                     Lower body lift  10/17/2007
                                     Upper body lift     1/23/2008

 


 

(deactivated member)
on 9/6/09 3:45 am - LOUISVILLE, KY
Thanks all for the answers and encouragement. I will look into it. Thanks again.
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