MsLEE WHERE R U? THIS HISSY FIT NEEDS UR SUPPORT!

MSW will not settle
on 9/14/12 8:49 pm, edited 9/15/12 7:05 am


Those that know me have witnessed my raving lunatic periods over the years.  Folks generally ignore me which I think is a good move for most.  MsLee however understands me    .   God only knows why & how, but she always does. 

Yeah I'm mad and while most sane folk would put it on their personal page, I am not among the fully sane. 
Therefore, I'm going to vent to all of BAF and show my @$$ in public.     Its long.  I rant.  I rave.  I *****  I moan.  I whine.  I complain.  Read it.  Skip it.  Flame it.  This is your universe. 

Take heart however; four separate times I have been certified non psychotic. 
Perhaps should I loose my non psycho clearance, I'll have a good story to tell but this unrelated tale is for some other time.      I digress... sigh...

My non obesity related health issues are out of control at the moment.  That means meds are increased resulting in weight gain; suppress metabolism; over production of insulin; fatigue of the adrenal system; and induced cushings syndrome.  In short: A metabolic nightmare. 

Bottom line: I still have to loose the fat. 
I'm thirty pounds over my target weight as of yesterday.  Metabolically challenged peeps like me gaining 70-100 lbs in a few weeks' time is not un heard of.  

This is my diet for the next month given to me by my wl surgeon because I am already too fat and still gaining.   I've been pumped up with steroids & the pounds are piling on daily.  Add to that my thyroid is full to tender.  Add to that I have not been able to get in a real quality calorie burning workout.  And guess what?!?  More steroids coming.  Gotta LUV it being ME! 

To halt the weight gain and get me back into weight loss mode I was given the following diet to "jump start" me back into weight loss.   We've got folks protein training & looking for other ways to get back on point.  I'm going to share what I received during my follow up visit.  See the "Jump Start Diet" I was given yesterday below.  Some may find it a useful plan to get back to basics. 

This is what I learned at my 3+ years follow up:

1.  )  If you are gaining weight you may need to have an upper to make sure all parts of your wls are still as they should be.  I damned sure hope mine are but if something is broken it must be fixed.  The causes of my troubles may seem obvious, but my doc does not make assumptions.  He is checking it all out from the inside. 

2.  )  How many calories how far out is an on going debate.  My separate physicians disagree on calories and on what I should weigh.  I've been working with the middle of the road theory but it has kept me fluctuating 10-15 lbs over my target.  This in spite of being the calculation for my "ideal weight" with my level of exercise. 

There are many calories in vs calories out math equations.  For some of us metabolism is a crap shoot because we have been obese.  Add in other metabolic factors and many accepted norms do not apply.  Starting now I have to drop my calorie count by 500 calories.  Well below the "normal" calculation for my height, ideal weight, and exercise level you will find on any weight loss site. 

3.  )  Exercise matters but it may not count for your food intake.   That is, we need it for good health but your actual metabolic burn may not reflect your activity level.  Run an hour and burn 500 calories because you need the cardio.  Metabolically you may still need to eat as though you never get off your @$$ all day.  This is my situation.  

4.  )  Starvation mode is a real weight loss stopper for many with "normal" metabolisms.  Cutting calories too deeply may even be counter productive with some medical conditions.  For other folks, starvation is not easy even if you are often physically hungry. 

My surgeon estimates I must eat max 1100 calories a day with cardio & strength daily to hit and maintain my target.   That is half of what some calculators tell me and well below my endocrinologists recommendation.  I know what has not worked to date.  It will be minimal calorie eating to find what does work.   No calorie adjustments for regular cardio & strength training permitted. 


5.  )   Prepare to respond to accusations of food phobia and developing eating disorders when you express concern over weight gain although you wear a "normal" size.  I've heard this quackery from nutritionists since early post op.  It is my good fortune that my surgeon understands metabolism and he is a wls patient himself.  

Normal is not the same for all of us.  I went in complaining that I may put out someones eye if a button flew off of my snug dress (which was a larger than usual size for me).  Some doctors would say be glad you made it into the dress at all.   I want the doctor that says lets get the fat off before you need a new wardrobe.   


6.  )  Dieting will never end for some of us.  This is why I keep the word in my vocabulary.  I am not among those who has wls; eats less; looses the fat; and maintains the weight loss.  All as it should be. 

Every pound was a fight right from the start.  I had no wls honeymoon where I could watch the numbers fall.  You may have to choose to fight from day one and continue the fight for life. 

OK, I'm done *****ing.  For now. 

MSW will not settle
on 9/14/12 2:30 pm, edited 9/14/12 2:30 pm
MsLee does this remind you of anything?     I swear it looks to me like a low carb version of EFS which you know I could not stick with for God, love nor money.  This is my next month people.     Holy crap this camper is not a happy one but if it gets the fat off I will be. 


My doc's "Jump Start" plan for weight gain

FOLLOW FOR TWO WEEKS

BREAKFAST :
-  1 SCOOP PROTEIN POWDER WITH 8OZ SKIM OR 1% MILK  -OR-  1 RTD PROTEIN SHAKE
-  1 SMALL FRESH FRUIT  -OR-  1/2 CUP DICED FRUIT


LUNCH :
-  1 SCOOP PROTEIN POWDER WITH 8OZ SKIM OR 1% MILK  -OR-  1 RTD PROTEIN SHAKE

SNACK :
-  6 OZ LIGHT YOGURT  -OR-  1/2 CUP LOW FAT COTTAGE CHEESE  -OR-  1 STRING CHEESE
-  1 SMALL FRESH FRUIT  -OR-  1/2 CUP DICED FRUIT

DINNER :
- 3 OZ PROTEIN (LEAN MEAT, FISH, OR POULTRY NOT BREADED OR FRIED)
- 2 OZ NON STARCHY VEGETABLES (NO POTATOES, CORN, PEAS, OR BEANS) IN 1 TABLESPOON OF OLIVE OIL

AFTER 2 WEEK JUMP START :
-  EAT 3 MEALS AT REGULAR INTERVALS
-  FOCUS ON PROTEIN
(MEAT, LOW FAT CHEESE, EGGS, SEAFOOD, POULTRY) AT MEALS, 3-4 OUNCES AT EACH MEAL
-  HAVE A FRUIT OR VEGETABLE AT EACH MEAL, ABOUT 2 OUNCES
-  HAVE A SMALL DAIRY (
LIGHT YOGURT, COTTAGE CHEESE, STRING CHEESE) AND FRUIT SNACK
-  AVOID/ LIMIT STARCHY CARBOHYDRATES (BREAD, PASTA, CRACKERS, RICE,
POTATOES, CORN, BEANS ETC)


To be fat or not to be fat.  How bad do I want it?  I want it enough to keep getting up each time I fall.  We know I will fall repeatedly.  Sure could use a dunkin donuts french cruller about now.          

                   MSW   Roux-En-Y Gastric Bypass: Eat sensibly & enjoy moderation  

 Links:  Are you a compulsive eater?  for help OA meets on-line Keep Coming Back, One Day At a Time  Overeaters Anonymous 

               LV'N MY RNY.  WORKING FOR ME BECAUSE I WORK FOR IT. 

LEE
on 9/16/12 12:35 am
That is the fat smash, I don't care what they call it, it's fat smash.

I am at a all time high right now and I suck.  I have been eating right for the past six days but today I ate some extra snacks because it is the weekend which is always hard. 

I am so desperate that I am doing EFS again even though I feel it eats muscle, I need to get this weight off before I am back at pre surger weight.  

Come on Marcia, you can do this, because you are like me.  No matter how many times we fail, we get up and keep trying over and over again.

Be strong sister.
Salty Pickle a.k.a.  Lee
MSW will not settle
on 9/16/12 5:06 am, edited 9/16/12 5:13 am
  MsLEE, Much Luv!  I've missed you.  I need you.  How you know my pain maybe even better than I do. 


I'm so sorry you are so near your previous weight.  I can only imagine how you feel because I know how depressed I am being just 11 lbs shy of the obese mark.  You will get that fat off again.   You must.  Becca is your rock so tell her to boulder up and support you in this.  Se is your positive example that it can and will happen.  Harder for sure the second time around but you are fully capable of getting this done.  

Calories are under control; well below my forever 1100 limit but I'm eating the wrong foods.   No shakes and way off of my plan.  This is a low carb version of the extreme fat smash diet for real. 

I'm doing it because I have no choice.  Also, I am still bitter that efs has kicked my ass over a dozen times.  Low carb is fine but getting back to the shakes is a *****  They just don't want to go down and with my allergies I'm limited to egg white powder.  RTDs are all soy and/ or whey.  


We will do this because we did not carve up our insides to give up.  I can still squeeze into my jeans but I was up to 163 lbs on Thursday in a size four dress and feeling it hug me.  My personal sucide consideration mark is 150 lbs and a size two plus I'm filled with roid rage and constantly a starving bottomless pit.  

Been eating lettuce, avocados, no cal dresssing, fish, chicken, shrimp.  As of today I am off the air popped pop corn to get the carbs under cotrol.  Tomorrow its on to the shakes.  I have to get on this plan but no fruit cause its a trigger sometimes.  We agreed I would substitute salad or veg. 

The doc wants me on shakes for a month and I looked him in the eye and committed.  I meant it when I said it and I will do it.  I'm just a few days late starting out. 

I'm going to weigh myself in a few minutes.  Not daily but maybe twice a week or so.  Goal is 135 lbs max fully dressed at  mid day so its apples to apples with my surgeon visits.  That means I gotta loose 30 + lbs.  He don't play.  I'm getting pumped up again with the drugs this week & I could be up 100 lbs by next month. 

This time I have to make efs work.    I can't exercise much.  No energy, no strength, but that will get back to normal eventually.  I've got to clear my metabolism of the carbs and up my protein level.  Thank God the calories are working out ok but this EFS-esque jump start plan is going to slash that to about 700 I'm guessing. 


We must do whatever it takes.  I know you hate to low carb but maybe you should give this version a try.  The protein will help to preserve your muscle.  You will get your protein needs in for sure even wih the low calories.  This is actually hgher than my usual maintenance protein.  We can do this! 
  We have each others back.  We WILL do this. 


martitalinda
on 9/17/12 3:13 am, edited 9/17/12 3:14 am
 I am sooooooooooooo glad you found Ms. Lee and joined BAF FB too .... I was ecstatic to join that awesomely active group over there... I LOVE IT!!!

Both you and MsLee can do this! I have been coveting Ms. Lee's arms and muscles for way too long I just KNOW she has a handle on this ... and you too my TriniPana Sista .... I told you the last time we met for b-fast a couple weeks ago that I saw no changes except for a little bit of medication induced puffiness in you ... my goodness ... you had a full MS flare-up and champed it out ... go easy on yourself ... and my DD just asked me to copy your diet over to her ... how is that? Sometimes these medications and metabolic condition can create havo****il the body stabilizes...

HANG IN THERE... YOU GOT THIS! Both of you's!!!! .... TTY on FB BAF ... the group that ROCKS!!!! I am loving it!!!

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com

autumnsiggy2RNY 2/5/07 no regain having implemented lifestyle changes....

 

MSW will not settle
on 9/17/12 11:27 am
Smart girl that MsCandice.  Spreading the "Jump Start" diet around is a good idea.  Meds or not, its another way to re focus when you need to alter your plan. 

I have blown up since the week before Labor Day weekend.  I added six pounds just over the weekend we last saw each other plus kept expanding right through this weekend.  Its slowing down but I get pumped up again this week risking more weight gain & that is with added diuretics for the water weight.  I'm up two dress sizes in mostly belly fat as you will see.  Breakfast Friday work for you?  Let me know.  I'm in your building 7am Thurs also.  I can't eat on Thurs but I can still join you for some good company. 


MsLee's muscle tone & her tiny waist are awesome.  Too bad she hides her hour glass figure under those damned baggy clothes.  Maybe one day she will pull on something sexy & appreciate that shapely body of hers.  HEAR THAT MsLEE?  LMAO, I can hear her thinking the hell that will happen. 

Even with weight gain MsLee is inspirational on the work out front.  I'm sure having to give up running
& the higher impact workouts because of her knees makes it even tougher to hold on to maintenance.  





martitalinda
on 9/17/12 11:34 am
 Let's do Friday ... this week? text me to remind me ... that'll work.  I am in a crunch to finish up paperwork here ... Candie got contracted at the Yale Medifit gym and she is killing me ... I had to join yet another gym to follow my offspring ... LOL ... well it keeps me fit while I keep my eyes on the 6ft energizer bunny I gave birth lest she has a flare-up too.... so far so good ... she is down to 2 mg of Prednisone and her CPKs are running under 100 YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY remember that scare when she could not even swallow or pick her head up? girl I still panic thinking about it .... So she thinks I am giving in to her asking me to come to her classes when I am actually Mrs. Hawkeyed Pierce on standby to offer urgent care LOL LOL LOL.....

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com

autumnsiggy2RNY 2/5/07 no regain having implemented lifestyle changes....

 

MSW will not settle
on 9/17/12 11:48 am
Mama Bear gotta watch out for her cub even if you are mini mom insteas of she being mini you, lol.  I remember when your DD could not hold her coffee cup.  She has come so far and I hope she never goes back. 

Friday is perfect.  I'll text you later cause its nap time now, lol.  Weak & exhausted and behind on everything.  Dosed off trying to post this...    

LEE
on 9/17/12 4:27 pm
NEVER......EVER.....NEVER.....EVER.   Wellll  I should not say never because sometimes I do wear tight shirts because I have a nice curve in my waist that I do like but I like my pants big, big, big, who am I lying to, I like my shirts big too.

Salty Pickle a.k.a.  Lee
LEE
on 9/17/12 4:32 pm
You covet my arms, I covet your everything.   :)  You are so inspirational to me Martita and I know I say it to you a lot, but it's because it's true.  You know you look good and you are not afraid to be proud of yourself, which is something I have always struggled with.   I love when you post pics,  the other day I was eating yogurt in the cafeteria and everyone at the table was eating all types of fattening delicious smelling food and I pulled up one of your picture pages to help me through it, then I had to end up telling your story and showing them your pics.  lol.
Salty Pickle a.k.a.  Lee
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