I give up....I can't take it any longer

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on 1/4/11 3:13 am - Fair Play, CA
I am taking myself off my BAF black out. Its counterproductive for me ...not to participate....rather than the reverse. You think I would know this by now.  its been a vicious cycle.  I am still trying to kick 199 in the ass ( 7 more to go) but until then I will post whatever the heyl I feel like posting!!! You know like the good ole days. I agree with Lee we need to kick some life back into this board. I admit that I was pretty upset about that Facebook link...okay I went a little psycho but despite the fact that OH is more open...it still has the capacity to be a good source of support for so many who are on this journey....especially the newbies. So in 2011, I vow to do my part to pump a little life back in. Get ready for a bunch of off topic, off the wall, downright delusional and maybe just a tad crazy stuff from me....some of it might be useful but I ain't making no promises.  Oh...yeah...those who know me ummm know that I don't do BRIEF. As a matter of fact, I am known for my dribbling long ass posts.  If shes still around perhaps MM or someone else might grace you with a Crib note or two.    I will also pitch in any info related to this journey that I have found useful.   Speaking of which...here is my first tip.

If you have not already, find yourself a GOOD therapist. Sit or lay on the couch and spill your guts out. This journey is more mental then physical. I learned it the hard way.  You need to be very clear on the underlying issues surrounding the overeating and address them or you will EAT through the RNY, The Sleeve, The Band, The Balloon or whatever heyl else other procedure you have had. Healthy coping involves more than a "magical" procedure which is only temporary if you don't do right by it. 

The following is an article on how to find a good therapist if you need one (its an individual choice). I did not think I needed one at the beginning and not only did I not make goal but I gained weight back. I was so cleaver and sneaky...found a way to eat the heyl out of some sweets despite the fact that I had an RNY. In the end...and just like an addict...who was I fooling? Myself. Be careful and proactive with your decision making when it come to your life. This IS about life or death in case you mind is playing tricks on you.  

  Elaine Aron, Ph.D.

Elaine Aron, Ph.D.

Posted: May 18, 2010 02:50 PM BIO Become a Fan Get Email Alerts Bloggers' Index

How to Find a Good Therapist


Contrary to how it looks from an insurance company's perspective, even if we do not have serious symptoms, many of us would benefit greatly by someone listening skillfully as we reflect on our lives, where we are and what it all means. A rough childhood can leave you with troublesome feelings and lack of confidence, or recently losing a parent, for example, or being diagnosed with a life-threatening illness, can shake you to the core.

Who you choose can be the most important thing you ever do. Your therapist will influence you--in fact, that is what you want. If your therapist were a pill designed to change your entire outlook of life, you would learn about it thoroughly before you took it. So take the time to decide before you commit to this relationship.

Begin by asking friends and medical or mental health professionals if they can suggest a therapist whom they know very well, and pay close attention to anyone who can tell you what it is actually like to be in therapy with that person. I advise you not to see a therapist whom a close friend is already seeing. Most important, do not have a professional therapy relationship with a friend or relative who is a therapist. If your partner sees a therapist, don't see the same one, and beware of any therapist who suggests that you do so. Don't feel pressured to see a certain therapist because you feel obligated to the person who made the recommendation.

If You Cannot Afford the Therapy You Want
If you cannot afford good therapy, do not see someone unlicensed or poorly trained just to save money. It could cost you dearly in other ways. Aim for the best. Even if the price seems steep, it will be worth it. You might need fewer sessions with a better therapist, or you might make gains that truly change your life, including your earning ability.

Why are fees so high? Along with the costs of training, overhead, malpractice insurance and the stress of life-and-death responsibilities, the reflection and consultation needed for most cases require good therapists to limit their schedule to no more how to find a good therapist than 20 patient hours a week. However, many therapists have a sliding scale, so about a quarter to a half of their patients pay well below their normal fee. Explain your situation and state what you can pay. If the therapist you have approached cannot offer a lower fee, ask if he or she knows someone who could -- perhaps an intern or someone who is starting out in practice. These can be the best referrals of all.

Your Particular Preferences
Should you see a man or a woman? That is up to you, of course. Which would make you more comfortable? Do you need a male or female role model or perspective? For deeper emotional work, sometimes it is good to choose the same gender as the parent with whom you had the best relationship. What type of therapy should you be seeking? Therapists fall on a rough continuum from methods that are conscious and rational to methods focused on the unconscious generally or on how it operates specifically in the therapy relationship. Cognitive behavioral and interpersonal therapies are largely rational. Others are in the middle, such as Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR). It is mainly used to treat recent traumas, such as witnessing a sudden death, but some practitioners use it to recover memories of trauma or for other, more general, purposes. Emotion-focused therapy and gestalt therapy are also in the middle of the continuum, as they aim to work with the emotions but do not delve systematically into the unconscious. Psychoanalysis, Jungian analysis and what is called self psychology (introduced by Heinz Kohut) best represent therapies that seek to access the unconscious as it appears in the therapy relationship and in dreams. Their aim is to go as far back into childhood as necessary to find where your development got off track and work from there.
Be sure, however, not to place the particular method above the skill and personality of the therapist. Indeed, most therapists are eclectic and versatile enough to use the approach that will suit you best, and they can change approaches according to what is working. A good therapist will be interested in whatever you think will help you.

Setting Up an Appointment and the First Session
After you have assembled a list of therapists, you may want to visit the websites of those who have one. Decide whether you can reach the office easily and think carefully before committing to driving a long distance. Plan to see at least two or three on your list before deciding on one, so next call to find out if they have openings at the times when you are free. Ask about their fees, including whether they charge for the first session (most do). If you will have trouble paying that fee, tell them so on the phone. They may be willing to discuss a lower fee. You may not have a chance to talk more, but do ask as many questions as you can by phone. Most therapists, however, feel that the two of you need to meet in person for an hour at least once before deciding if it is a good match, so set up an appointment. To work well together, you have to like each other. There has to be some chemistry on both sides. Plan to pay with a check and/or have your insurance card and referral ready.

In this first session, ask where the therapist was trained, how long he or she has been in practice and what his or her specialty is. At some point, bring up enough of your deepest issues to gather whether this therapist will have some useful insights. Be a bit spontaneous for part of that first hour to see what happens between you, but also get your questions answered. You are the customer.

Mulling Over Your Experience
After meeting each therapist, ask yourself, "Did I gain something from the session? Was I engaged enough to want to return?" You should have felt that the therapist was kind and empathic. They are trained to be that way, so that quality does not in itself make the therapist special. But if one is not, don't go back. Also, do not go back to any therapist who pushes you to work with him or her, discourages you from interviewing other therapists, or makes you feel that his or her needs will get in the way of yours. For example, did this therapist answer a phone call during the session, use you as an audience for personal stories, or try too hard to impress you with his or her talents?

After seeing several therapists, pause for a few days to sort out your impressions; otherwise the last person may leave the strongest one. Don't ignore your reactions to details, such as the atmosphere of the waiting room and office, which reflects much about that person. For your next session, decide what else you need to know about the therapist, including office policies such as what happens if you have to cancel suddenly or how often fees are raised. Take time to make your decision.

Once You Decide
Once you have made a choice, give the therapist a chance to work in his or her own way. Trust your choice through the ups and downs, but always discuss the downs. I cannot emphasize enough how essential it is for you to be honest. If you don't like something, talk about it. Therapy often leaps forward after these discussions. Above all, do not quit without discussing the reason unless something very unusual occurs, such as a request for sexual intimacy or friendship (absolutely unethical and wrong), a breach of confidentiality, or any other failure to maintain boundaries. Also, do not try to see two psychotherapists at once except when one has referred you to another, as for marital counseling.

Elaine Aron, PhD, is the author of The Undervalued Self: Restore Your Love/Power Balance, Transform the Inner Voice That Holds You Back, and Find Your True Self-Worth.

 




MSW will not settle
on 1/4/11 3:34 am
Glad you're back! 

There are things I no longer will say with the share button and I don't post my bikini pics anymore.  LOL, except with a hello kitty face.  I don't do facebook.  I know I need a daily life line somewhere.  I still choose BAF. 

                   MSW   Roux-En-Y Gastric Bypass: Eat sensibly & enjoy moderation  

 Links:  Are you a compulsive eater?  for help OA meets on-line Keep Coming Back, One Day At a Time  Overeaters Anonymous 

               LV'N MY RNY.  WORKING FOR ME BECAUSE I WORK FOR IT. 

(deactivated member)
on 1/4/11 3:48 am - Fair Play, CA
Hey M!

Glad to be back....missed you. I was lurking every now and then. Yeah...I am with you. I will not be posting anything sensitive that can tie back to me unless I want it to. I only check in on FB every so often. Really...I need to shut it down. I knew someone that passed and her FB is still up and will more than likely be up for eternity. I don't want pics of me and my family floating around out there like that...so I have gradually started to remove them. I missed you!

(deactivated member)
on 1/4/11 3:47 am
Happy Holidays, Merry Kwanzaa, and Cinqo de Chitlins to you and yours.

First of all, (que the theme music) "Welcome back. Your dreams were you ticket it out...  Welcome back, welcome back, wel-come baaaack..."

Secondly, I read where Lee ripped erry'body a new one on not supporting their local BAF chapter.  Sadly, that SHARE button fugged the game up, baby bay-bay!

Lastly, a therapist?!  Really/!  I can't do it.  I simply cannot.  I've finally got my crazy to a manageable size but my paranoia won't let me talk to other people all that easily.  Oh lawd, here it comes now.  Act natural...
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on 1/4/11 4:22 am, edited 1/5/11 2:12 am - Fair Play, CA

(deactivated member)
on 1/4/11 4:28 am
Dayum, Homie!  I had no idea.
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on 1/4/11 4:33 am, edited 1/5/11 2:13 am - Fair Play, CA

LEE
on 1/4/11 4:34 am
WELCOME HOME BABY,  WELCOME HOME.

Yes we all got upset about those public buttons but just because we got upset doesn't mean we let our foundation die.    

I don't mind your long ass posts one bit, and off topic, who the hell cares just so you post.  


I STILL GOT THE PADDLES ON THE CHEST OF BAF AND STILL HOPING TO KEEP SHOCKING THE **** OUT OF IT UNTIL THERE IS LIFE ONCE MORE.
Salty Pickle a.k.a.  Lee
(deactivated member)
on 1/4/11 11:07 pm - Fair Play, CA
Hey Lee,

I am with you. The life will come back. Let's just keep pumping it up with more info and eventually it will take off again with participation. 2011 will see a rejuvenation of BAF....I feel it. How's Becca doing these days? Where are you too travelling to this year? 

LEE
on 1/5/11 4:21 am
Yeah I think it will pick up eventually and I appreciate you coming back to help out with that.

Becca is realy good now a days, thank God after all those months of her being so sick.

I am in the process of summer planning right now, not 100% on the exact destination right now, but what i'm planning is really great.
Salty Pickle a.k.a.  Lee
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