Toyota...
okay call me dumb for asking this... but we all know the human lives that could had been saved by calling earlier attention to this...
..but also would it not have been better for Toyota money wise too? They have proven they dont care about lives, so if money is all they care about i dont see how holding something this big would help them in the long run...The way i see now... People will not want to deal with them anymore... Even if they do fix the problem people have lost trust in this company ... verses... if they would had came out admitted there was a problem and fixed it then... i dunno.. i just see all the shadiness, combined with the loss of human loss of life pretty much screwed any chance this company had..
..but also would it not have been better for Toyota money wise too? They have proven they dont care about lives, so if money is all they care about i dont see how holding something this big would help them in the long run...The way i see now... People will not want to deal with them anymore... Even if they do fix the problem people have lost trust in this company ... verses... if they would had came out admitted there was a problem and fixed it then... i dunno.. i just see all the shadiness, combined with the loss of human loss of life pretty much screwed any chance this company had..
for the company, perhaps -
but for the individuals in mgmt and whatnot - not so much.
think of the performance bonuses and incentives paid on sales during the last XX years - couple that with the savings of not re-engineering the design.
bottom line - I got MY money now **** all yall later. Sounds like the sub prime mortgage mofos, don't it????
hmmmm - gotta love the 'American way'! LOL
but for the individuals in mgmt and whatnot - not so much.
think of the performance bonuses and incentives paid on sales during the last XX years - couple that with the savings of not re-engineering the design.
bottom line - I got MY money now **** all yall later. Sounds like the sub prime mortgage mofos, don't it????
hmmmm - gotta love the 'American way'! LOL
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on 2/24/10 9:26 pm - ~Somewhere in~, PA
on 2/24/10 9:26 pm - ~Somewhere in~, PA
I own a 2002 toyota Camry and I have not had any problems with it and it is my baby! I never traded it in when I got my BMW....in fact I get better milage out of my toyota, I keep my BMW in my garage and don't drive it unless it is a special occasion...I feel bad for those who are having issues, but I believe it is the newer models.
I traded in my gas guzzling SUV when I got my BMW and I love it. It's the xi model and it handles well in the snow (but couldn't do a damn thing with the 4 ft we got two weeks ago. Everyone was stuck. LOL!). Now, anyone who has a BMW is aware of the service model. My dealership takes care of every little thing. They've even suggested that I bring the car in once a week for a wash. I'm not going that far, but you get the point. So, I can't imagine rolling up in there with a problem and they act like it's my fault and give me a hard time about fixing it. I would go nuts.
When they first made the announcement about the recall and they stopped selling the cars, I mentioned to a friend that I wondered how many people had to lose their lives for this to happen. I hope the US comes down on them as hard as they came down on Enron.
My dad bought me a used Celica when I got my drivers license. After that I got a Celica. Later on I got a Cressida. Now I have an Avalon. I was going to give it to my girls who are just driving now when I got my Lexus LS430. Uh, I've always driven a Toyota. Now I'm looking at a CLS600 Benz. I'd rather live, thank you, and deal with a company who shows some appreciation or at least courtesy, to it's customers. Just like Ziggy pointed out, I hear they treat you really well when it comes to BMW and Mercedes service. I think I've been hearded like cattle for the last time at the Toyota dealership.
As someone in an earlier post mentioned, this issue really does effect everyone, not only the owners of Toyotas, as they are everywhere there are roads to drive on. We are all at risk driving, walking, riding bikes, etc. since we share the road with them.
Its a disgrace that short-term profits are the higher priority over lives to the Toyota company, then to add insult to injury (and deaths), they BS'd around about mats, then pedals manufactured by another company rather than accepting responsibility.
I saw a news report about 10 days or so ago where the Japanese CEO, Akio Toyoda, was driven away from the Davos, Switzerland economic conference in a black Audi (I missed the BMW incident). Just wow!
We had a Toyota Celica about 10 years ago and it was a great car which had us considering another Toyota over the years, until my husband bought me a BMW 5 sedan 6 years ago. We have been BMW-crazed since then and have since bought me a new 5, keeping the first one for him. Great service, wonderful cars.
For all drivers, Toyota or otherwise, it is good practice to consider and plan in advance what to do should the car we are driving goes out of control. If we plan for it, we are more likely to be able to handle it should it occur. This is an emergency response preparedness issue!
Consider the steps you would need to take if the car were in motion & speeding out of control. (Don't turn off the engine as a first step; doing so turns off the power brakes and power steering.)
First off, do not panic!!! Panic locks up our ability to react, even shrieking can delay reaction time by 2 or more seconds, which is precious time needed to react in an emergency.
Consider this in terms of levels of escalation. Start with the regular brakes, then get the transmission out of drive and into a lower gear or neutral. Next, use the emergency brake, then if those actions don't work, then turn the engine off, (just be aware that the brakes will be hard to use, and the steering wheel will require far more effort to move than normal).
Having a plan in place is key. You truly are your own 'first responder'.
Be safe everyone!
Its a disgrace that short-term profits are the higher priority over lives to the Toyota company, then to add insult to injury (and deaths), they BS'd around about mats, then pedals manufactured by another company rather than accepting responsibility.
I saw a news report about 10 days or so ago where the Japanese CEO, Akio Toyoda, was driven away from the Davos, Switzerland economic conference in a black Audi (I missed the BMW incident). Just wow!
We had a Toyota Celica about 10 years ago and it was a great car which had us considering another Toyota over the years, until my husband bought me a BMW 5 sedan 6 years ago. We have been BMW-crazed since then and have since bought me a new 5, keeping the first one for him. Great service, wonderful cars.
For all drivers, Toyota or otherwise, it is good practice to consider and plan in advance what to do should the car we are driving goes out of control. If we plan for it, we are more likely to be able to handle it should it occur. This is an emergency response preparedness issue!
Consider the steps you would need to take if the car were in motion & speeding out of control. (Don't turn off the engine as a first step; doing so turns off the power brakes and power steering.)
First off, do not panic!!! Panic locks up our ability to react, even shrieking can delay reaction time by 2 or more seconds, which is precious time needed to react in an emergency.
Consider this in terms of levels of escalation. Start with the regular brakes, then get the transmission out of drive and into a lower gear or neutral. Next, use the emergency brake, then if those actions don't work, then turn the engine off, (just be aware that the brakes will be hard to use, and the steering wheel will require far more effort to move than normal).
Having a plan in place is key. You truly are your own 'first responder'.
Be safe everyone!
The CEO of Toyota is a little foolish and conniving but not crazy. He sent the message loud and clear that he didn't trust his own product by rolling up in that BMW. He should have least drove up in a Avalon or a Lexus. At least pretend you like your own product.
BMW service is no joke. I just gave my sister my old 1985 3-series. That thing is still kicking at 25 years old. My husband is driving my 1995 5-series. I need a new car and I've been trying to figure out how to afford a BMW in this economy. They stand behind their product and those cars will not put you down if you take care of them. My husband wants me to buy a Kia Borrego but I'm just not sure about it because I like how a BMW will warn you before it needs work. I don't have to get out the car to know I've got a tail light out. I don't need to hear a squeal to know my brakes are going bad. That car tells you everything you need to know while you are sitting in the drivers seat.
BMW service is no joke. I just gave my sister my old 1985 3-series. That thing is still kicking at 25 years old. My husband is driving my 1995 5-series. I need a new car and I've been trying to figure out how to afford a BMW in this economy. They stand behind their product and those cars will not put you down if you take care of them. My husband wants me to buy a Kia Borrego but I'm just not sure about it because I like how a BMW will warn you before it needs work. I don't have to get out the car to know I've got a tail light out. I don't need to hear a squeal to know my brakes are going bad. That car tells you everything you need to know while you are sitting in the drivers seat.