ot...DOUBLE STANDARD????

pokerchips
on 3/3/09 9:57 am
What bothers me is hearing that some people think women will choose to become bisexual because of there are more men than women?????? What the heck does the census count have to do with sexual idenity? 

IMHO women are not going to engage in a bisexual relationship because there are not available men. Same sex relationships are a MUCH deeper choice than to have a mate.......(at least I think so)

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(deactivated member)
on 3/3/09 10:11 am
I guess in the case of homosexuality its not a choice, its just integral to who they are.  Not that I am gay so I guess I shouldn't speak for anyone that is. 

There is a post over on the R&R board about homosexuality and there are alot off women that identify themselves as Lesbians they say that choice for them is pretty much as a result of a traumatic expereince with men.  I have never seen homosexuality as a choice that people have to make, just that you either ae or are not.  So its as crazy to me as the census thing is to you.

Oh well I guess to each his own.
# 1 MACK_MAMA
on 3/3/09 11:28 am
  Hole up - so Gay is nature, Straight is nature - but BI is choice????

why o WHY can't a mofo be BORN bi???  Is it an impossiblity?  Do you really think bi folks control who they are drawn to and just 'flip a switch'?

And SOME women chose to be with women after a traumatic experience with a man.  Now THAT is choice - but for SOME - it just naturally occurs to them to find men AND women attractive.

If understanding gay folk are gay is easy for you - why is the bi thing so hard?  What exactly is it that drives the notion that one can only be on one side of the 'fence' or another?  I'm really curious - BTW - I get beat up by gay folk who say I am faking so I am not just hounding you, I am genuinely wondering why it's such a hard thing to believe. 

I don't just have issues, I have subscriptions!  I'm saving on the newsstand price.......

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Frenchie1959
on 3/3/09 12:04 pm, edited 3/3/09 12:13 pm - PA
MM:
Many of your points about sexuality in general are the cuurrent sociological  views on the matter . The results of multi-cultural studies suggest that sexuality exists as a spectrum of orientation; and there is fluidity in that orientation.  

There are people who are truly 100% at one end of the spectrum or the other --i.e. 100% gay or 100% straight.  However, the majority of humans fall somewhere in between with our preferences weighted in one direction or the other.  
 

edited to correct typo


Frenchie
                     

PrettyPlum
on 3/3/09 4:29 am
If I had to ponder,  I would suggest that the  double standard is actually  brought on by the classical conditioning of our young men at an early age.    

Young men are  encouraged by other men as early as 9 or 10 to go out and get some.  By their teens many young men are into watching  *****s, music videos that exploit  the female bodies.  Thereby making men completely open to anything sexually adventurous in their 20's. For  heterosexual men.....the mere thought of  seeing or partaking in two females being together turns them on because they are trying to feed their male ego and test their " sexual prowess."  

Women  are emotional by nature, and are classicaly conditioned  quite the opposite.  To be and  act like a lady.  And I would even go so far as to say  that more women are  probably sexually repressed  til well into their 30's. That adventure issue dosent happen for women til much later in life, which coincides with the time that women reach their sexual peak.  At that point the last thing they want to do is see two men get it on.  We are too preoccupied with getting ours and stroking our own  egos more less anybody else's    

In short,  yep  there is and will always be a double standard. 



 

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ValueMe
on 3/3/09 4:46 am
Now Ms. Pretty, you know this stuff has been going on wayyyy before porn, music videos...this is as OLD as time. Probably something inherent in the nature of humans. For one thing, I don't believe that men feel "threatened" by another woman; I think he feels that he has the upper hand in the relationship and that BOTH women are there to satisfy him or give him a break in between getting "up" for the next one. And by go****hink he is right! If a man gets a three-some, he da boss!

 

 

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PrettyPlum
on 3/3/09 5:00 am, edited 3/3/09 5:07 am

Your right....thats why I said its has everything to do with " classical conditioning " of  our young men.

And the whole  "divide and conquer "  mentality that is taught to them from the cradle to the grave. 
Men being the conquerors and women being the prey of course.........

I truly  believe that men should feel  threatened by other women - and not because of what women can do for other women in the bedroom.....but more so what women do for other women outside  the bedroom.  Women are emotional and sadly enough some men dont know how to scratch that surface.  Even more honest is that the same men   dont care to know or even learn how.  

The saying you can get more bees with honey than you can with vinegar is precisely what Im talking about.........Its all in the stroking  of a women's needs.  And its up to the man to find out what those specific needs are for the woman he's after.  

I think we are on the same page ValueMe...........
 

 

In life,  and especially on this journey there are sure to be days when you falter and give in.......just remember to never give up.  

 

 

 








 

ValueMe
on 3/3/09 6:46 am
O-tay!  

 

 

Be Well, Live Well
I Am Most Excellent - Affirmed Only Of GOD.
I wish for You, what I pray for Myself: Wellness, Happiness and Success In ALL Things Good! 
I know for Sure I Control: My Attitude and Effort, My Health and Happiness.

 

 

ktjajj
on 3/3/09 6:18 am - Buffalo, NY
I know I am sexually repressed and I can't wait to get unrepressed.
nikkemo
on 3/3/09 4:36 am - Orange, CA
Makes sense to me. Now here's my next question regarding fulfillment. Can a straight man like receiving anal sex and not be considered bi? 

I would say yes.  His orientation doesn't change because he likes anal.  Its just something that he likes the feeling of as opposed to him liking or having sexual feelings towards men.  To me that would make him bi if he liked women as well.
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