Why OH Why?!?!?!?

thafatchick
on 2/17/09 12:00 pm, edited 2/17/09 12:39 pm

Hi AshleyNicole.  There is not usually drama in this forum and I certainly was not trying to start anything or call Isa a *****  I made a comment based on the pics she posted today and yesterday, that was it.  It is unfortunate that it took an ugly turn, it was not my intent and I am sorry it went that way.  People here are usually funny and give great advice and suggestions.

You will often see that when a person does not agree with another person on-line they are labeled a "troll".   I am usually very respectful in this particular room especially and will usually not respond when provoked and I really try not to get ignorant or behave disrespectfully towards others here. 

To be honest, I was half way joking with her like I would if one of my friends showed me a pic like that.  I could go on and on about sub-conscious ques and behaviors.   Some people loose weight and their morals, not that Isa has or did or will...I'm just saying.   It is an issue for some and they subconsciously know it.   Overtly sexual behavior or gestures does not equal sexy and most people are confused.   I certainly do not find a man holding or fondling his crotch sexy. 

Like I said, Isa is pretty and does not have display herself like that to "appear" sexy.   That's all. 

I hope this fiasco does not deter you from coming in and voicing your concerns, support or opinions.

ThaFatChick
Dimple Donna
on 2/17/09 12:10 pm - Chicago, IL
There IS usually drama in this forum...trust me when I tell you - I have been here for almost 6 years...and lately..over the past year or so...there has been MUCH drama...period.

I didn't see the pics from yesterday, but what I saw today - did not warrant the comments you gave her...now I know that we are all entitled to our opinions and you certainly gave yours...which I respect.  And, I respectfully disagree with you.

Perhaps you did not intend to be hurtful with your comments, but in all honesty, I found nothing but hurt in the words you chose in your response to Isa's pictures.  I do not see where Isa was "overly sexual" in her behavior...as a matter of fact, I felt her pictures were fine.  Subconsciously or Consciously...I never thought she appeared to be anything but showing off her weight loss - of which she has done a great job in such a short period of time.

Also, if ISA feels like she wants to show others the handiwork of her tool - in ANY SHAPE, FORM OR FASHION SHE CHOOSES TO DO SO....then that's ISA'S BUSINESS!!!  You have made a conscious decision to not show your face on this board - and I honor that...so, how about HONORING Isa's choice to express her thoughts/feelings on how great a job she has done with her tool.

ISA DID NOT POST NAKED SHOTS...WHICH MEANS SHE DID NOT 'DISPLAY HERSELF LIKE THAT...'

And half-way joking...no love, that was a personal attack on her...period.  If you felt that way, you should have sent her a message on the backline expressing your PERSONAL feelings directly to her...what you have done is humiliating to some...although there are others who could not give a flying hell about anyone's opinion.

I guess I have even given this more than I should have...but just need to express how I feel...and again...IT'S A DAYUM SHAME THE WAY FOLK TREAT PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!!!

THERE...I SAID IT!!!
I choose to love myself, live life to the fullest, and encourage others to liberate themselves!
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thafatchick
on 2/17/09 12:38 pm
Donna

I have not seen much drama in this room and if there has been a lot in the past, let's hope it stays there.  I'm not counting today and I have on maybe a year.  Usually everybody is fairly descent towards each other.   There may be a flare up every now and then but not many.

I did not say her outfits were not tasteful or that she looked bad in them.  I commented on the pose.  And for the record, I am not worried about anybody's dayum business in this room or any other room on OH.  If you put your business out there it becomes everybody's business that wants to look or make a comment. 

My comments stand because no matter what organization you belong to, where you work, your station in life or whatever you should always respect yourself and not have to display yourself in an overt manner.  I like tights and mini skirts& heels, even as a fatchick.  And it may surprise you to learn after this post that really do believe in live and let live.   I am sure Isa could care less about me or what I think.  Sometimes the truth hurts but it can also be constructive.   I said I was not trying to hurt her feelings. 

I apologized to Isa but some people can't let **** go.   I don't get ignorant IRL but I will speak my mind or let you know, in not so many words, you (used in general) can go to hell and kiss my ass.   I have no personal problem with Isa, or any of you for that matter.  She could pose for Playboy for all I care, but if she posted them here she would get comments.   In fact she could post in that lingerie Friday if she wanted too and I wouldn't give a dayum.  More power to her.  
ThaFatChick
Dimple Donna
on 2/17/09 12:44 pm - Chicago, IL

See what I mean...oh hell...never mind!

I'm on vacation...and I will not spend another minute of it responding to bull**** 

DD

I choose to love myself, live life to the fullest, and encourage others to liberate themselves!
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Heres2anewme
on 2/17/09 12:13 pm - TX
I just wanted to say that I don't think people consider those who disagree with them trolls. I think people are labeled trolls when they come on, create an account with no pics and no info. Another red flag is negative behavior or posts from said persons.
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Ashley Nicole
on 2/17/09 12:37 pm
i can understand how some words may come off negatively but at the same time sometimes we have to stop and think before we respond...i would hope that you didnt try to intentionally hurt her but i know there are people who lurk aroundthe board on troll accounts or whatever who do.. im not saying that you have a troll account because i dont know...but im sorry it turned very negativ too...didnt realize things had got uglier than what i had previously saw..

just another case of black on black crime..when will it end???

My life is like McDonalds....I'm Lovin It

GorgeousIsa
on 2/17/09 12:43 pm - Philly-delphia, PA
Hi Ashley Nicole: I hate the fact that this all got out of control but I am VERY defensive about myself because I can justify 99% of the things I do...The comment was very offensive and then on top of that I remembered a post about Troll accounts and hers fit the description...My camera was literally away ever since labor day weekend last year and I was so happy and proud and like I said before...seeing the progress of others definitely had an impact on my decision to have surgery...I used to send before and after pictures to several co-workers and it felt good to have some of my own...I was excited because the last time I took a picture to be proud of was over a year ago...I come to BAF for both support/encouragement and also for entertainment (some post just fall in that category)...I would hate for a new person to BAF/OH to read the post and think that the site is not a good resource when indeed it is...I hope that this will be an example of what not to do in the future...I hate for someone to bring out the nasty side of me but hey it happens to the best of us.
HIGH-294CURRENT-151 GOAL-150LBS GONE-143LBS 2 GO-1 (Last weigh in 7/14)   Platics Done: Breast Reduction (5/14) Extended Tummy Tuck w/ Anchor & Brachioplasty (5/29)
Dimple Donna
on 2/17/09 12:48 pm - Chicago, IL
Girl...you know what...I wish Ashley hadn't even posted her concern - because folk are going to read into it exactly the opposite of the point.

In the meantime, just continue to do you, Isa...you don't have to explain yourself or your actions to nobody.

I am so sick and tired of all the BAF DRAMA...folk hating on others progress...folk hating on who's doing/zooming who...folk mad because they're not a size 6....folk pissed because their posts don't get the responses they think they deserve...and the list goes on and on...

This irks the hell out of me...and I don't want to spend another minute talking about ignorance, narrow-minded mentalities and foolish ass people.

Are you coming to the M&G? If so, I look forward to meeting you then...

Have a great rest of the night, love.

DD
I choose to love myself, live life to the fullest, and encourage others to liberate themselves!
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Ashley Nicole
on 2/17/09 12:55 pm
donna...im feeling the same way.... i honostly was looking for answers to those questions... i have just been so confused sometimes... but maybe i should have stayed quiet...sorry

My life is like McDonalds....I'm Lovin It

ktjajj
on 2/17/09 1:41 pm - Buffalo, NY
 Thank you DD for speaking the truth. I can now go to bed.
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