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And yeah, he did get high with her, but again, she's a grown woman---hell, older that HE is...Whitney controls Whitney...Bobby didn't control Whitney.
Yeah you guys are right as a matter of fact she's from E.O. (east orange) which we refer to as Little Beirut..but she left EO and all that drama years ago.. and to keep it on the real the Oranges of New Jersey (South, East and Orange) were straight up middle to upper middle class black neighborhoods when whitney grew up there in the 70 and early 80's. Trust me, us little hood rats from the inner cities of Newark and Jersey City were not allowed to even hang out in the Oranges without the cops stopping us. She was never really from the hood.. She went to "in" church where most of the attendees were local and state politicans, black doctors and lawyers teachers and business owners. This hardly constittues the hood as we know it today. She lived here in Bergen county (Alpine) and had her business office in Fort Lee for many years before she met Bobby. SHe and her parents and brother were always seen around town. They were a very nice well spoken and respectful family with city roots but no where near what we would call Ghettofabulous. So when i made that statement i made it being fully aware where Whitney is really from and how she really grew up. She was not a project child from the south side of anywhere. SO let's not make it seem that Clive Davis didn't have a base of clay to work with because he did. Sissie made sure of that.
On the other hand, Bobby was a thug from the mean streets of Boston and that "edge" appealed to the masses and was responsible partly for his success in the 90's. He never tried to hide where he was from and embraced it during his onstage performances. My point is even if Whitney was using drugs casually when they met, he had a responsibility as her man to pull her away from that because he knew all to well the road she was travelling Instead he gave in to his own demons and manipulated hers. How could I in good conscious and sound mind allow my wife to be shot on camera at the worst period in her life for some loot. If that's love then what is hate.. If that is keeping it real then when the **** do you fake it till you make it cause you my girl and i'm your man? Bobby Brown is a clown and that's why i watched the show.. He is so dyfunctional that he is funny.. But as a man i take issue with his irresponsible behavior of drugs arrests on camera baby mamma drama and allowing that to affect his wife's career. Don't get it twisted.. how many New Edition reunion concerts did you go see? My point is if he really loved her i mean that kind of selfless love that says, "I love you enough to leave you because i can'****ch you do this to yourself or i can't bear the guilt of knowing i am the reason you are doing this to yourself" then just what caliber of man are you? what spare parts are you put together with? Or were you just along for the ride? i don't know maybe it's just how i get down..
(Just fuggin withcha donnieboy!
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That was some good clarification and you're right about the fact that those of us from Newark and Jersey City couldn't even go into those neighborhoods without police assistance. Nowadays though we'd be calling the cops to helps us get our arse's up out of there. For real. Donnie,
Now, come on now.. you and I know you don't have to be from the projects to act "projeck-ish".
I grew up in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn (Tompkins Projects just up the block from the "imfamous" Marcy Projects) and didn't grow up "hood"
We also know that just cuz you you come from a middle class background that you have a middle class mentality, whatever that may be.
Bottom line is whether she came from privlege or Bobby came from the ghetto, no one a)forced her to marry him b)put a pipe to her mouth, thereby ruining her career. I hope for her sake this album does well (though I was never the biggest fan).
"When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer." Plutach. Not true, for there are always more worlds to conquer.
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she hasn't recovered yet man but i hope she makes it back. she looked healthy on the grammies but her speech had a touch too much tyler perry/shelly garrett about it. lil heavy on the emphasis. I like Mariah too but nobody and I mean nobody could touch whitney in her day. She didn't grow up in Bergen county, alpine/closter/the cliffs is where they moved to after the money. I went to college with her brother gary - they came up in East Orange and though it didn't look then as it does now, trust it's always been close enough to newark and irvington not to make a difference, sometimes folks are fooled cuz the girl is pretty, hood is on the inside, whitney had some street in her long before Bobby. still n all, before watching their tv show who would have ever imagined that Bobby was the *normal* one?
bringing out my inner jersey girl LOL!! the difference we tambout might be apples and oranges (pun intended) : )) you're referring to lifestyles and families and no doubt at all, i think parents everywhere want the same things for their kids. and how bout i'm with you on West, South and parts of Orange proper. but now to call East Orange surburban (even then) is pushin it. tryna remove the knowitally tone from my voice but I came up within 4 years of whit and in 1972 babeee? Halstead and Central still wasn't no dayum game, better looking? sure, but to classify it with the other oranges? n'uh uh. but again i'm talking strictly in terms of what the neighborhoods themselves looked like as opposed to the families who grew up there. I agree with D, where you are doesn't determine who you'll be, my point about that was that Whit (by environment) is not unfamiliar with what crackishness looked like. queen latifah grew up in east orange maybe 4 or 5 years later and is the first to say it wasn't for no punks. LOL!!!
not trying to be/sound condescending donnie, i know these people were doing the best they could with the cir****tances they were given - i'm just interested in calling a spade a spade, you can tell from the types of original homes built that are still standing (that are very unlike the original houses near seton hall and in seven oaks and such) - east orange wudn never nothing like the other fruit.
e.t.a. - more normal, yup - being bobby brown didn't make him out to look like the evil ******* who's solely responsible for her downfall. it made it clear that she's not naive to the game.
That you put equal blame on BOTH is what i'm taking about. While, yes, Bobby was obviously a bad influence, Whitney was / is no baby nor a lamb in the woods. Hell, her arse will be kicking fifty in about 5 years (yeah, she's three days younger than I am. lol..another one of them daggone Leos) and Im glad she is at least ATTEMPTING to get her stuff back together.
