Newbie Lurker - What's Up With This?

I have seen the whole articles to these research snippets and found them very interesting. I could probably find 5 more that said the complete opposite thing. One thing about doing research into these different surgeries is that you can find a million and one different answers to the same question. What you have to do is take in all the info and make your own decisions. Do AA's lose less weight than CA's on the RNY....who knows? But statistics have shown (for all races) that the percentage of EWL and maintenance of weight loss is greater with the DS than all other surgeries. That's from many different sources. Now having said that, could say Maxine lose more weight than me and keep it off better than me, of course. It's all up to how you work your tool.

Now, ValueMe. For someone that doesn't want a surgery war on BAF......I can't tell. I don't know who specifically you're talking about but I have met Diana Cox, a practicing as a lawyer from CA and can say that she is indeed not a paid blogger. She is very outspoken about the DS and I thank her. Anybody that has the DS and has Aetna for insurance should thank her. I already have. She fought and fought to help many of get this surgery approved years ago. Joe Madison (radio personality), Jesse Jackson, Jr, Juanita, those are just a few. There are many others on OH that are very outspoken about the DS, they have to be because many people don't even know it exists, many attack it without knowing all the facts, many including yourself have misinformation and spread that. Personally I don't go around to all the boards speaking about the DS, but I will on this board if the occasion presents itself.

I feel bad for folk that have to pull the race card out for erry dayum thing that happens. We're all adults, how bout you do a lil research yourself, ValueMe, and find some articles that rebuttle these conclusions instead of throwing out the card. You equated these research articles to burning crosses on lawns? Now THAT's funny!

ETA: I'm off now to participate in MY research study at John's Hopkins Hospital. It's testing metabolic and endocrine changes before and after WLS. I love being a paid ginea pig LMAO

You ain't tell a sistah 'bout this!!!

What? The study? Your azz already had the surgery lol....too late! They have to get all the baselines when you're a pre-op.

Many of you are right; I should have introduced myself first and explained my reason for wanting your thoughts of the research.

First, Who am I?  I am like many of you someone just trying to make this weight loss journey.  I was sleeved in December and in my mind have been a slow loser despite following the plan. 

My intent for asking your thoughts is I found the research interesting and contradictory at the same time.  It was not my intend to offend anyone or support the research.  I truly just wanted to hear your thoughts and you guys let me hear your thoughts!  I ain't mad.  That's what I asked for.

I am sorry if anyone misunderstood my motives or suspected me of being a plant.  I am just a sista taking in, digesting and discarding lots of information as I try to make this journey.

By the way, I know we will all be successful ...as long as we don't let others define our success.

I call bull****  I've seen you and Valueme on another forum ---go away TROLLS.

Welcome to BAF backhomec!

Please forgive the misunderstanding.  There have been cases in the past when folks set up troll accounts and post stuff to BAF, from other boards, simply trying to start shiot.
Since your account is new and there was no previous intro, it seemed you may have been one of them.....

As you can see, we are pretty close knit and although we may jump all over each other...we don't allow others to come in with crap. I guess we are like family for real....LOL
If you have lurked for awhile, I'm sure you have seen this.

Hopefully you will stay and just jump on in and become part of our dysfunctional family!

Welcome to BAF BackhomeC  Diana Cox has been a life saver for so many people regarding DS and California laws regarding insurance and plastic surgery.......for this I'm forever greatful. 

Hello:
I don't know you or most of the people that come into BAF and OH. I came here for the same reason as anyone else...to get information on WLS. I have become acquainted with some nice and kind people and I am grateful for that...I have also come across some very hateful persons who try to control basically because they perceive themselves as "veterans" of BAF and within OH, therefore they give the inference that they should not be challanged. I don't buy that. If a person has faulty thinking, I will disagree with them and will usually give my reasons.


Now, having said that, I will say this. YOU take your "life" in your hands when you vouch safe for someone that did you a professional courtesy. Have you ever heard the word LOBBYIST:
Defined:
: to conduct activities aimed at influencing public officials and especially members of a legislative body on legislation transitive verb 1 : to promote (as a project) or secure the passage of (as legislation) by influencing public officials 2 : to attempt to influence or sway (as a public official) toward a desired action (USUALLY PAID). In today's society which is so technology driven a MAJOR part of Lobbying is Blogging, pushing their agenda on the Internet anywhere possible (where ever their target group can be found). I would say most Lobbyist are Lawyers.


I'm from the South and we have a saying, "beware of someone bearing gifts in one hand, they maybe hiding a brick in the other." You vouching for her gives her the right to put out that propaganda that may harm or discourage other Blacks...I don't think so.  I think she is a racist with an agenda. (Racist: 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.) A person does not have to be mean or full of vile conversation to be a racist. Let's just agree to disagree, I stand by my opinion, Thankyou.

WOW ValueMe....don't know who this is directed at...but....this response is VERY heated.

No one is vouching for anyone.  If you think a "welcome to BAF' is vouching for or agreeing with the article/study posted, you are wrong. 

This is a public forum.  People do have different opinions and can post accordingly.  I really don't see how you can come to the conclusion that this was racist.  I believe the original post was asking for opinions on the article/study.  Initially, it was pointed out that no intro was given, and the poster responded to that.

You are a little hard on the poster...especially since you came with a little controversy yourself.
Some jumped to conclusions and questioned you and now you are doing the same...

Hi Kim:
I try to be as clear as possible when I am conveying my thoughts and feelings. I did not attack the messenger, at all times my attack has been on the message. As for that Lobbyist, she has attacked me PERSONALLY, and wrote some thing and supported some things...therein lay my defining her. Yes, this is a public forum, we all should remember that; and as such, ideas, views...will be attacked, agreed with, there will be negatives and positives. Everyone does not see the same things in life. Two or three people can see the same incident and the story each tells is totally different. That does not mean that they all are wrong, it may just mean that their point of observation was different or their experiences were.


The world is better off for Dr. ML King and Malcolm X;  there would probably be no President Obama but for Jesse Jackson and Rev Wright...Out of many we are One; GROWTH/Change Only comes about via Conflict (mental struggle resulting from incompatible or opposing needs, drives, wishes, or external or internal demands.)


Some of the things we see everyday and take for granted need to be reasoned away, not just accepted for the sake of "Just getting along." Some of us (in this society) have become dead to the far reaching affects and effects of harmful words and subliminal suggestion. Heck, we don't even know why all of a sudden we may want a bag of chips...maybe because last night before turning off  the TV we saw a Lay's commercial; or someone is at a low point about their WLS and at a Stall, then they remember that artical and just quit, even if they let down for just a week, damage is done. So that's why I speak out sometimes when it may not be popular, because that person may come back in here and see my post or a few other's that condemn that article and say, YOU CAN beat the odds, just stay constant.


Again, re-read my posts, I have never attacked the person. It does not take much imagination or intelligence to just say hurtful, mean words or "cuss" somebody out or put somebody down. It takes thoughtful contemplation to reason through ideas, concepts and expressions.