DS'ers
Ok.. here I am going through my RNY process as I have finally accepted the fact that I won't be getting the Lapband and here comes a fight on the RNY board about DS. Now, not only are there DS people praising the surgery RNY folks are saying I wish I had it and blah blah which has completely confused a sistah. Now what is the real deal of DS? MY friend told me that they romove 80% of your stomach remove gall bladder/apendix and cut up the intestines. I told her I would just go onto BAF and I know I would get an accurate and detailed understanding of this surgery.
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Howdy,
Jessica is right, DS facts is one of the best sites for research.
I am scheduled to have the DS in March. The DS is a powerful surgery and many hail it as the gold standard of wls because the odds of regain are very slim. Even if you re-gain, it has been discovered that the DS continues to work so it is a very forgiving surgery. One lady on the DS board re-gained over 50lbs and recently lost it. Her story is on DS facts as well.
The stomach removal part of the surgery vary. That part is called the Vertical sleeve. Many have only that portion done and forgo the intestinal portion of the surgery. Some must have the surgery done in 2 parts due to risks and other factors.
Many surgeons do remove the gallbladder and appendix as to stave off future complications from them. The intestinal part of the surgery is when the surgeon switches the small intestine with the large intestine creating a Y at the lower part of the digestion system. A portion of the intestine is measured and cut creating what is known as the common channel. The common channel size vary from patient to patient depending on their nutritional and supplemental needs. I opted for a longer CC which mean that my chances of defienciencies are lowered although it may cause a slower weight loss. The switch portion of the surgery is reversible in the event of malnutrition, severe deficiencies, and too much weight loss.
The DS appeal to many people because there is no dumping involved and patients may eat anything. There are however bowel issues if foods that do not agree with you are consumed. People with the DS only absorb very little fat and only half of calories eaten.
DS'ers must concentrate on protein and avoid carbs until goal is reached.
The DS has also been hailed as the cure for diabetes due to the liver enzymes bypassing the pancreas and reaching the intestinal tract later. A very small percent of people remain diabetic, ie: those who had juvenile diabetes.
Hope this helps and best wishes with your research.
Jessica is right, DS facts is one of the best sites for research.
I am scheduled to have the DS in March. The DS is a powerful surgery and many hail it as the gold standard of wls because the odds of regain are very slim. Even if you re-gain, it has been discovered that the DS continues to work so it is a very forgiving surgery. One lady on the DS board re-gained over 50lbs and recently lost it. Her story is on DS facts as well.
The stomach removal part of the surgery vary. That part is called the Vertical sleeve. Many have only that portion done and forgo the intestinal portion of the surgery. Some must have the surgery done in 2 parts due to risks and other factors.
Many surgeons do remove the gallbladder and appendix as to stave off future complications from them. The intestinal part of the surgery is when the surgeon switches the small intestine with the large intestine creating a Y at the lower part of the digestion system. A portion of the intestine is measured and cut creating what is known as the common channel. The common channel size vary from patient to patient depending on their nutritional and supplemental needs. I opted for a longer CC which mean that my chances of defienciencies are lowered although it may cause a slower weight loss. The switch portion of the surgery is reversible in the event of malnutrition, severe deficiencies, and too much weight loss.
The DS appeal to many people because there is no dumping involved and patients may eat anything. There are however bowel issues if foods that do not agree with you are consumed. People with the DS only absorb very little fat and only half of calories eaten.
DS'ers must concentrate on protein and avoid carbs until goal is reached.
The DS has also been hailed as the cure for diabetes due to the liver enzymes bypassing the pancreas and reaching the intestinal tract later. A very small percent of people remain diabetic, ie: those who had juvenile diabetes.
Hope this helps and best wishes with your research.
Can I be frank, it doesn't matter what they take, move or adjust. You don't have to help the surgeon. It is best you know your lifestyle and what you can expect to do post op. I had an RNY because I am too damn greedy for a lap band . It would have just caused me to start saving for a revision. I was super morbidly obese and I would have had the DS but, I also knew I needed a fix for this sugar addiction. So I hoped the RNY would also help me to dump and I was right. NOT EVERYONE DUMPS. That said, be blessed be strong and you are so smart to be informed pre op. No matter what you chose, it must be for you.
~Maxine
~Maxine
I too am a suger addict and I am real with myself about this. I was just reading on dsfact.com and it sad u have to becareful of carbs isn't suger a carb? So maybe this surgery would work? I am in the process of my approval for RNY and I am gonna continue but try to get some insight on DS. Thank You so much!!
Yes sugar is a carb, but from my understanding and information gathered from the few DS'ers that I know...you don't dump with the DS. So while carbs and other food types should not be consumed in great amounts with the DS you won't dump if you indulge.
Now, the RNY is something else. Again, not all people dump with the RNY. I do...and that in itself is a great deterrent to stay away from sugar laden, fried, and greasy foods.
Now, the RNY is something else. Again, not all people dump with the RNY. I do...and that in itself is a great deterrent to stay away from sugar laden, fried, and greasy foods.
I am almost 7 months out from my DS and I couldn't be happier. I guess I was a sugar addict. I never saw a piece of cake that I didn't like, lol. But part of the allure for me for the DS is that I didn't HAVE to give up sugar forever. Over the holidays, I was able to enjoy everything, including cake and cookies with no real side effects (except stalling).
My sugar addiction is definitely not as strong as before. Things are a lot sweeter and it only takes a little bit to satisfy my sweet tooth. Before surgery, I could eat a few pieces of cake and keep coming back. Now, one tiny piece is more than enough.
Yes, you do have to watch your carb intake. It WILL slow your weight loss. I believe this is the same with the RNY. You have to focus on protein, vitamins, and water. DSers can eat more fat since we malabsorb most of it. So I can eat things like bacon, sausage, cheese eggs, etc and this is basically diet food for me.
Yes, most of your stomach gets removed. This is not a bad thing. Not all surgeons remove the gallbladder and appendix. I already had my gallbladder out before surgery, and I still have my appendix. Your intestines get cut up with either the DS or RNY.
Check out dsfacts.com for a lot more info. Good luck on your decision.
My sugar addiction is definitely not as strong as before. Things are a lot sweeter and it only takes a little bit to satisfy my sweet tooth. Before surgery, I could eat a few pieces of cake and keep coming back. Now, one tiny piece is more than enough.
Yes, you do have to watch your carb intake. It WILL slow your weight loss. I believe this is the same with the RNY. You have to focus on protein, vitamins, and water. DSers can eat more fat since we malabsorb most of it. So I can eat things like bacon, sausage, cheese eggs, etc and this is basically diet food for me.
Yes, most of your stomach gets removed. This is not a bad thing. Not all surgeons remove the gallbladder and appendix. I already had my gallbladder out before surgery, and I still have my appendix. Your intestines get cut up with either the DS or RNY.
Check out dsfacts.com for a lot more info. Good luck on your decision.
Roxy, You are correct in doing your research!! Heck I researched for 4 years... LOL
Each of us have different reasons for choosing the surgery that we choose. Reasons vary from the invasiveness (f thats a word) to whether or not you are forced to be good with things like dumping. I personally choose lap band as the rerouting of the RNY scared me a bit and the cutting out the tummy and throwing it away with the DS scared me even more. Unfortunately because of a hernia RNY choose me over lapband and the lack of ins coverage for the DS. I am glad however RNY choose me as it keeps me honest with myself. The dumping scares me into being true to myself and trying to do what is right for myself. I believe that most of us come from the same mold and lying to ourselves is part of that vicious cycle that got us where we were before surgery. Just one more, or I dont eat that bad, or I dont really eat that many bad things. With RN it keeps me honest with myself. I know that if I have just one more or eat something that is loaded with fat or sugar that I am going to pay for that mistake. You have to be the one to make the decision based on your eatting habits and I'm sure with all of your research that you will make the right one for you. Good luck!
Hugs.
Ginger
Each of us have different reasons for choosing the surgery that we choose. Reasons vary from the invasiveness (f thats a word) to whether or not you are forced to be good with things like dumping. I personally choose lap band as the rerouting of the RNY scared me a bit and the cutting out the tummy and throwing it away with the DS scared me even more. Unfortunately because of a hernia RNY choose me over lapband and the lack of ins coverage for the DS. I am glad however RNY choose me as it keeps me honest with myself. The dumping scares me into being true to myself and trying to do what is right for myself. I believe that most of us come from the same mold and lying to ourselves is part of that vicious cycle that got us where we were before surgery. Just one more, or I dont eat that bad, or I dont really eat that many bad things. With RN it keeps me honest with myself. I know that if I have just one more or eat something that is loaded with fat or sugar that I am going to pay for that mistake. You have to be the one to make the decision based on your eatting habits and I'm sure with all of your research that you will make the right one for you. Good luck!
Hugs.
Ginger