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(deactivated member)
on 9/23/05 8:43 am - Chicago, IL
Topic: RE: Intro
I declare Chicago to be GOD'S CHOSEN CITY as we are vulnerable to virtually no natural disaster of any kind. I saw something on TV once about how it's supposedly not possible for Lake Michigan to flood the city. Even though we have several gay neighborhoods including one actually recognized by the city as the gay area with these rainbow monument things! And of course the gay neighborhoods have the high property values. Thanks Jesus!
(deactivated member)
on 9/23/05 8:37 am - Chicago, IL
Topic: RE: Intro
Did you happen to see the "Sweet Jesus Look at That Adult Bookstore"?
nkate
on 9/23/05 7:35 am - Placerville, CA
Topic: RE: Intro
Same idea, different wrath; I'm thinkin' that those people stuck in New Orleans last month could be seen as not praying hard enough by their more devout escapee neighbors...but obviously harder than those who lost their lives. Although, if "IT'S GOD'S WILL" that you (and your particular neighbors...but nobody on the West Coast for instance) go at a specific time, then who's to argue with Mr. Omnipotent...but then why are the devout all over the world praying so hard to save them if "GOD'S TIME IS THE RIGHT TIME" and he chose this time? And besides, if "GOD WILL PROVIDE", what are they worried about...Maybe they are really don't believe that "JESUS IS MY SAVIOR". >>Quick sidenote: All of the above BOLD names in quotations (and many more) are names of fashion shops, electrical shops, hair salons, paint stores, you name it, in Ghana.
(deactivated member)
on 9/23/05 5:50 am - Chicago, IL
Topic: RE: Intro
HA!! Makes me think of when people pray for the outcome of an adversarial situation. God likes my team better than your team! I've mentioned this before but it really bothered me and has always stuck with me. Immediately after the announcement of the verdict, OJ's mother was quoted as saying that the "prayers of the righteous prevailed." My first thought was that would mean god liked OJ more than he liked the Goldman and Brown families. oooooooookkkkkkkkk I'm forever amazed by people's capacities to rationalize what god gives and takes and who he's willing to "punish" and reward. Did you ever hear those stories about the people who claim that they lead prayer teams through neighborhoods and the crime rate goes down on those specific blocks? So if you're unfortunate enough to live on the street that didn't get the special prayer team treatment SUFFER GOD'S WRATH!!!
katiemother
on 9/23/05 5:37 am - Northern, VA
Topic: RE: Intro
Exactly. I am amazed by people who think they're blessed, because they have food, housing, health etc. I want you scream, you're not blessed, you're LUCKY!! Had you been born in the Horn of Africa or in a Calcutta ghetto, the story would be so different. Why is god blessing you and ******g on some poor person somewhere else? What makes you so special?
(deactivated member)
on 9/23/05 5:35 am - Chicago, IL
Topic: RE: The big leap...
Hey one more person and we'll have as many as the pine needle basket weavers. "God's time is the right time tire and vulcanizers" Oh I'll be repeating that one.... Check this out. It's for real: http://www.whatwouldjesusdrive.org/
(deactivated member)
on 9/23/05 5:14 am - Chicago, IL
Topic: RE: Intro
Barb I'm so glad you posted and discussed this! I understand now exactly what you mean. I am reminded of the various things that have been said to me when people find out I'm atheist: Oh, so Satan's your buddy? Why do you hate Christians? That explains why you're so sad and angry. Atheists ruined our nation when they got prayer out of the schools. I might get this thread pulled but.... I think being an atheist is about accepting reality in ALL aspects of life. This website is making me think about that a lot lately. People just want to post warm and fuzzy platitudes. You know, I better stop here...
katiemother
on 9/23/05 3:54 am - Northern, VA
Topic: Intro
Hi, I'm Barb and I live in Virginia. I posted in the pine needle basket thread and taking Dona's heed, I'm posting in new thread. I mentioned that Atheism is scary and perhaps I should elaborate on that. I didn't mean that I am afraid to be an Atheist, but rather that believers see us as scary people, much like boogeymen. We are a threat to them. We accept what they can't, death. I also feel there could be a time when we could be afraid of being Athiests. Today, in America a self admitted Athiest can't be elected dog-catcher. Is it that silly to think that soon, maybe we can be denied jobs, homes or even physically hurt because we don't believe? When you have people on the supreme court such as Scalia who believe in biblical driven justice, I don't think we're completely safe. I grew up in a nonreligious household. My parents were very lax protestants. I was agnostic for years and gradually fell into Atheism. There was a "Road to Damascus (LOL)" moment. I just realized one day that I didn't believe in the invisible guy in the sky. I also found that believers were incredibly annoying to me (and those are believers of all types not just christians). As far as WLS goes, I'm three weeks post-op and down 23 pounds. The only thing I miss is diet Coke. How crazy is that?
katiemother
on 9/23/05 3:42 am - Northern, VA
Topic: RE: The big leap...
Had to laugh at the story about your former Mother-in-Law.
nkate
on 9/23/05 12:49 am - Placerville, CA
Topic: The big leap...
Hi, make that 9 in the community. I exist, but don't exactly have a profile. That's another issue entirely... I'm Cynthia and I never thought of atheism as a huge leap. I was raised by very devout Protestants--had to go to every form of sunday school, youth group, church, etc. for years. In 9th grade, I was subjected to the 'confirmation class' so that I could stand up in front of the church and be confirmed (whatever that really means). I had questioned the Sunday School teachers for years because the stories that they taught from the bible made no sense. I never got an answer that made sense either. By the time that the confirmation class was over, I was certain that the entire organized religion thing was a complete scam for scared people (like my parents), that there was no 'God' and that when we die, we're just done. I told my mother that I really shouldn't stand up and be confirmed since it would be a lie. (I might not be a Christian, but I can't bear lying ). What does she say? "What will my friends say? How can you NOT do this? Just wear your dress, get up there and do it. And by the way, you're not getting a party if you don't believe!" Huh?? I don't remember ever thinking about a party--that was beautiful. But the best part was "I'm so worried about what these other 'compassionate Christians' are going to think of us, that I'd rather you lie in front of them all. So, I did. And true to her word, no party. (That still makes me laugh). Fast forward a couple of years. I had to negotiate a deal with my parents whilst a senior in High School. If I were going to head to Philly to spend a weekend with my boyfriend at college, I had to be home on Sunday morning to go to church. Oh, they were going to save me yet. So, I'd go...best daydreaming I've ever done. Then, after college (and some other stuff) I joined the Peace Corps and went to West Africa for a couple of years. THAT was truly an eye-opener. The missionaries have done a job on poor Africa. EVERYONE wants you to go to church and have your soul saved...and everything in their lives reflects the devotion to their beliefs. You drive down the road in any village or town and pass "In God we Trust hair salon", "God's time is the right time tire and vulcanizers" etc. etc. Very amusing. It got so bad in my village that I could only associate with the Traditional Doctors and their followers...they never tried to get me to go to church or do anything else. They had their minds on better stuff. Oh, I have so much in me to get out that I need to stop right here...else I go off on 80 different tangents regarding my thoughts on this topic. Oh, one last thing because I can't resist--I saw a thread about this already. My now-ex-mother-in-law (I married a Ghanaian rasta man while over there. When I had my first son, we brought his mom over for SIX LONG MONTHS to help) is a religious zealot. I worked my beehind off for a long time to be able to afford her paperwork, passport, visa, plane fare, etc. etc. etc. What does she tell me when she gets here? "We need to thank Jesus for providing me the way to come to America." Well, being extremely sleep-deprived and hormonally challenged after having recently given birth, I couldn't just ignore it. I believe that to her, I must have looked like the devil (he he) himself when I glared at her and told her that her Jesus had nothing to do with it, that I was the one working 50 hours a week (her son...not such a provider as it turns out), and that if she was going to be giving credit where it wasn't due, she'd best ask her Jesus to send me a check covering her expenses since I mistakenly paid for it all myself due to her not having disclosed the her previous financial arrangement with Jesus. Oh boy, did that set the stage for an interesting couple of months! OK--thanks for listening! Cyn
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