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Topic: RE: Vertical Sleeve or Lap-Band regrets
This is EXACTLY why I am looking at the DS now. I really need something that I can take my RA and OA meds with, and also be able to eat a piece of cake for my granddaughters birthdays once a year. :)
I already take tons of pills, so a few more won't hurt me at all.
I already take tons of pills, so a few more won't hurt me at all.
Topic: rny problem with gout?
Hello-
I'm almost sure I want an rny but the one thing that's holding me back is that I have had two gout flare-ups and they were not fun. They were years apart, but both were when I was on high-protein no-carb or low-carb diets. I avoid them now by always eating some carbs with my proteins. I'm wondering if any of you have any experiences or advice for me? I'll get advice from pcp, nut etc. on this too before I decide but I'd love to know how it worked for you. Thanks!
I'm almost sure I want an rny but the one thing that's holding me back is that I have had two gout flare-ups and they were not fun. They were years apart, but both were when I was on high-protein no-carb or low-carb diets. I avoid them now by always eating some carbs with my proteins. I'm wondering if any of you have any experiences or advice for me? I'll get advice from pcp, nut etc. on this too before I decide but I'd love to know how it worked for you. Thanks!
Topic: RE: osteoarthritis in hip
I just has WLS on Friday 12/19. To date I have not been allowed on the Alleve. I stopped taking it a week or 2 before surgery. Since it has aspirin and will cause bleeding they told me to stop it. I am on liquids only now so I cannot take Alleve. To be honest, my hip is not bothering me now - I have gut pain!
Topic: RE: osteoarthritis in hip
Actually, my hips got WORSE for a while after WLS. When I'd lost about 80 pounds, they were TERRIBLE!!! Apparently the rapid weight loss has shifted my center of balance and put stress in differenct places. But yes, they are now better than they were.
However, I had the DS, and I still take Aleve daily. I hae arthritis throughout my body, and I knew that losing weight wasn't going to make my hands feel better. (*grin*)
However, I had the DS, and I still take Aleve daily. I hae arthritis throughout my body, and I knew that losing weight wasn't going to make my hands feel better. (*grin*)
Topic: RE: Vertical Sleeve or Lap-Band regrets
Oh, and by the way---the DS has the very BEST long-tern results, especially for those of us with a beginning BMI greater than 50. You really ought to research it for yourself.
Topic: RE: Vertical Sleeve or Lap-Band regrets
I know your WLS and eating habits may be working for you, but I have a question. Why have major surgery and continue to eat basically the same way you did before the surgery? 2500 calories and a full fat diet, isn't that a prescription for wt gain in the future, because any WLS CAN be defeated. Aren't you willing to change bad habits for good health. If you eat lots of sugar/desserts/oils/high carbs...even if you are only absorbing only 20% now, that will change in the future as you retrain your new stomach to be just like the old one.
Al Roker and others found out that WLS is not a permission slip to eat anything...he gained over 50 lbs. back after several years of his WLS. Not developing good eating and exercise habits is a sure way to regain wt; that is why they have the new procedure for those who had WLS and regained wt...they lost wt because the calories were not INITIALLY absorbed, but after several years that new stomach/intestines WILL begin to absorb all that fat/sugar...that's the great thing about the Human Body, It WILL ADJUST whether the habits are good or bad!
Take Care
"2500 calories and a full fat diet" ISN'T a prescription for future weight gain with the DS. With the DS, I only absorb 20% of the fat I eat, around 60% of the protein and complex carbs, and nearly all of the simple carbs.
Why did I have major surgery to continue to eat basically the same way I did before? Well, I LIKE the way I ate before, and with the DS, that's now a healthy way to eat. (Protein first, then veggies and fruits, then grains.) And I knew from experience that I was no good at dieting, and I was tired of trying. Denying myself always led me to falling off the wagon and pigging out. Now I eat whatever I want, and I am ABLE to eat it in moderation and feel fully satisfied---and I don't go on binges any more, because I don't feel deprived. (*grin*)
The DS is designed to slightly limit intake, and greatly limit absorption. It's long-tern effects have little to do with the stomach, and no, I'm not 'training' my stomach to do or be anything. It's simply an organ that churns food, and lets it out to the intestines a little bit at a time.
Will my malabsorption go away? Nope. It WILL decrease a bit, but the big difference between the RNY snd the DS is the degree of malabsorption. The DS has so much that's it's virtually impossible for the body to over come it.
Yes, any form of WLS can be out-eaten---but it's a LOT harder with the DS. Basically, you have to be a big-time sweet eater, and I'm not. The DS pretty much pulled my sweet tooth. I enjoy sweets, but not like I used to, and they no longer 'call my name'. I can eat A cookie, ONE chocolate-covered cherry, etc.
It's clear that you don't understand how the DS works. You can learn more here:
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/DS/
As for your second paragraph---I'm not certain what form of WLS Al Roker had, but it wasn't the DS. (Fobi pouch, I *think*.) I'm not certain what you're talking about re the "new procedure"---do you mean the Stomaphyx? (sp?) That doesn't affect absorption at all, it just tightens up a stretched stoma.
If you mean a revision---well, there are a lot of different ways to do those, and a lot of the people who get revisions go from the LapBand or the RNY to the DS. Check out the Revisions board, and you'll see what I mean.
On December 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM Pacific Time, ValueMe wrote:
Hey There:I know your WLS and eating habits may be working for you, but I have a question. Why have major surgery and continue to eat basically the same way you did before the surgery? 2500 calories and a full fat diet, isn't that a prescription for wt gain in the future, because any WLS CAN be defeated. Aren't you willing to change bad habits for good health. If you eat lots of sugar/desserts/oils/high carbs...even if you are only absorbing only 20% now, that will change in the future as you retrain your new stomach to be just like the old one.
Al Roker and others found out that WLS is not a permission slip to eat anything...he gained over 50 lbs. back after several years of his WLS. Not developing good eating and exercise habits is a sure way to regain wt; that is why they have the new procedure for those who had WLS and regained wt...they lost wt because the calories were not INITIALLY absorbed, but after several years that new stomach/intestines WILL begin to absorb all that fat/sugar...that's the great thing about the Human Body, It WILL ADJUST whether the habits are good or bad!
Take Care
Why did I have major surgery to continue to eat basically the same way I did before? Well, I LIKE the way I ate before, and with the DS, that's now a healthy way to eat. (Protein first, then veggies and fruits, then grains.) And I knew from experience that I was no good at dieting, and I was tired of trying. Denying myself always led me to falling off the wagon and pigging out. Now I eat whatever I want, and I am ABLE to eat it in moderation and feel fully satisfied---and I don't go on binges any more, because I don't feel deprived. (*grin*)
The DS is designed to slightly limit intake, and greatly limit absorption. It's long-tern effects have little to do with the stomach, and no, I'm not 'training' my stomach to do or be anything. It's simply an organ that churns food, and lets it out to the intestines a little bit at a time.
Will my malabsorption go away? Nope. It WILL decrease a bit, but the big difference between the RNY snd the DS is the degree of malabsorption. The DS has so much that's it's virtually impossible for the body to over come it.
Yes, any form of WLS can be out-eaten---but it's a LOT harder with the DS. Basically, you have to be a big-time sweet eater, and I'm not. The DS pretty much pulled my sweet tooth. I enjoy sweets, but not like I used to, and they no longer 'call my name'. I can eat A cookie, ONE chocolate-covered cherry, etc.
It's clear that you don't understand how the DS works. You can learn more here:
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/DS/
As for your second paragraph---I'm not certain what form of WLS Al Roker had, but it wasn't the DS. (Fobi pouch, I *think*.) I'm not certain what you're talking about re the "new procedure"---do you mean the Stomaphyx? (sp?) That doesn't affect absorption at all, it just tightens up a stretched stoma.
If you mean a revision---well, there are a lot of different ways to do those, and a lot of the people who get revisions go from the LapBand or the RNY to the DS. Check out the Revisions board, and you'll see what I mean.
Topic: RE: New here..Fibro and RA
I don't think you understand why NSAIDs can be dangerous after the RNY. It's not something that mixing them with food will help, because it's not them coming into contact with the pouch that matters. NSAIDs have a systemic effect, and so even topical ointments like Aspercream can cause a problem. They cause a thinning of the mucosal lining of the stomach, both the new pouch and the 'old', remanant stomach, and this thinning can lead to ulcers. And since the old stomach is now a blind pouch, not accessible via endoscope, if ulcers are suspected there they have to be investiagted surgically.
The DS is NOT investigational, and hasn't been considered so for several years now. That doesn't mean some insurance companies won't try to pull that crap in an effort to not pay, but generally if they cover the RNY they can be forced to cover the DS as well, especially since Medicare has endorsed the DS as 'safe and effective'.
Calling somerthing the 'gold standard' doesn't mean it's the best, or most valuable. Our paper money is based on the gold standard, but platinum is still more valuable than gold. (*grin*)
The DS is NOT investigational, and hasn't been considered so for several years now. That doesn't mean some insurance companies won't try to pull that crap in an effort to not pay, but generally if they cover the RNY they can be forced to cover the DS as well, especially since Medicare has endorsed the DS as 'safe and effective'.
Calling somerthing the 'gold standard' doesn't mean it's the best, or most valuable. Our paper money is based on the gold standard, but platinum is still more valuable than gold. (*grin*)