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The importance of vitamins after weight loss surgery and what can happen if you don't take them was very much discussed with me while I was preparing for surgery and taking educational classes that my surgeon required. I guess I was lucky and I think all centers/surgeons should inform their patients.
Then you must not remember what you posted. "30 yrs in AA and OA". "I would rather be drunk than DEAD". From what I have seen of this forum I see no judgement nor any prejudice. I see honesty and I see people sharing their stories. When I have seen any comments that may be considered judgemental I try to reach the entire thread to see multiple sides. Do I see people being matter of fact, yes. Do I see people cautioning people on paths they are taking, yes. To be honest I think it is wonderful that it is so. We do not need stories sugar-coated or so watered down no one knows what is factual. So if you feel like this site is judgemental maybe you aren't opening your mind to all views, including those who differ from your own.
Oy,I get 2 b the divergent opinion again grrr ! 
One of my favorite songs as a kindergartener was the Beastie Boys ? - I gotta FIGHT 4 my RIGHT 2 PAARHTY .... 
how in the world can you not love that song or it?s attitude?
Our world ... and our kids world and their kids? world is AWASH in drugs both legal and illegal ... and of course alcohol- our society?s favorite poison ( or life extender and savior depending on your perspective) has been used daily or more by most of our ancestors for thousands of years .
We can stick our heads in the sand like ostriches and ignore the obvious.... or we can grow up wrestle with the beast and eventually win.
I know plenty of people including myself who have enough munny to party every day for the rest of their lives on high quality great stuff ... yet most eventually get and stay straight ... mainly cuz we enjoy our minds the way they are ( and are extremely competitive with our cohorts ) .
I prefer making a million to getting high - that?s a high in itself . ((())) hugs
that said I " confess " to relaxing w a big glass of red wine just about every nite and patting myself on the back if I don't put a shot of 99 bananas in my morning coffee . So shoot me - I enjoy every single day of my life .... I haven't come this far to be miserable now .
I cannot understand why anyone would assume I do drugs or even drink from my post .
I'm actually pretty much a straight arrow ... to get where I need to go .,.. to achieve what I want and need to .
I'm hugely successful now and uncomfortable with it .... too used 2 suffering . I wish I could give myself a hug cuz I'm a Brave and Bold Grrrl . I wish I could spend the munny I earned on myself and treat myself just a little bit ... let my guard down ... actually enjoy .
I?m just stating the Obvious... the world has changed .
Maybe we had our heads in the sand ...dreaming about achieving a fantasy that realistically died or went out of fashion twenty years ago ...
Please understand I?m DELIGHTED 2 witness our thousand different forms of success post WLS .
i LOVE us ! I think we?re just absolutely amazing survivors and beautiful inside n out strong chicks and hott boyz :) .
I?m just hoping for a realistic forum where we can b honest without judgment or ridiculously outdated prejudice. ((())) hugs
( I?m also that addicted or just- likes - to - party kid you don?t understand - don?t you VALUE having a means to communicate with that generation? ) and no I?m not high ..or crazy or drunk lol . But I bet you WISH you were :)
Between post-surgical lifetime vitamins and supplements, and prescription medication, I take 14-16 pills per day (depends on how many pain pills I have to take, and whether or not I need a sleeping pill). I realized very soon after surgery that it's just a fact of life, and I budgeted it in my finances because it's a forever thing. My labs are always good, so I'm never sorry for the expense as the alternatives I've read here for people who stop taking their vitamins and supplements is unthinkable.
I, too, got so tired of the daily/weekly pill container filling, so I opted for this system. I just have to sit down once a month and it's sooooo much better!
MedCenter 31 Day Pill Organizer
The 4 sections are big enough to hold large pills in addition to my calcium chews. It's a bit pricy but well worth it for a one--time spend.
I don't know how much you spend on vitamins, but after trying to be frugal and going through a lot of options, I ended up going back to my original that was recommended by my surgeon. They end up costing just about $16 per month, and I think well worth it.
Bariatric Once-A-Day Multivitamin 90 Ct Capsule-45mg Iron Made for Gastric Bypass Sleeve WLS Surgery
If you don't need additional supplements like I do (magnesium, probiotic, and maca powder for post-menopause issues), then it's very cost effective, in my opinion.
Hope you find this info helps. The amount of effort required to take the supplements is well worth peace of mind knowing you'll never suffer debilitating issues due to vitamin deficiencies.
I read both your posts and I've sat on this for a while before I replied. I really think that they are more of a tirade based on the fact that you want to be able to talk about your ability to drink and function and NOT your struggles with overcoming alcoholism or drinking in excess. Yes, people are doing more drugs, but even more, people are finding sobriety one way or another. HOW you handle your sobriety is up to you, if you choose NOT to handle your sobriety and wish to drink, then that is also up to YOU. But, do not expect a website that is specific to weight loss surgery to have a "free pass" when you want to come and post about drinking. Those posts can trigger people who may be very successful at abstaining. It is not our right to tell you cannot drink, but it is our right to not have to read a post that is literally advocating for drinking and self-medicating to get beyond whatever issues are so deeply rooted.12 steps work, they are proven. Do they work for everyone, no. Some people find success with inner healing and getting to the root cause of their drinking. I never had an issue with drinking before I had surgery and my experience being this early out and seeing how it can spiral is a wake-up call for me. Don't try to normalize excessive alcohol or drug use and the ability to function daily. Everyone has a point where there is no return whether that is via suicide or drinking oneself to death. People struggle daily and even more now that we have encountered a pandemic. Don't come here to talk about your ability to function while drinking. YOUR posts could be ones that trigger another right down that same deep hole you seem to be rooted in. You want people to quit judging, then help yourself. Do you want help? Then help yourself. Talk about how you want to change things and focus on not drinking.If you drink and need to talk, acknowledge that you messed up and outline what you will do to get back on track and work on that. I bet you will get the help you need here then. But, glorify your drinking and you won't find one person who will want to help you, because deep down, you don't want help.
Although you are still personally not in recovery, AA has made life much better for many people who do follow the 12 steps. They are still alcoholics. Alcoholism is not curable, just controllable.
Everyone in AA will die as an alcoholic. If they stay away from consuming alcohol, their lives will be much happier.
Real life begins where your comfort zone ends
Yeah I take more then vitamins. The most important medication I take is Warfarin- blood thinner for my factor 5 leiden. I do have Celebrate vitamin in my cabinet which would eliminate all vitamins except iron. I'm just waiting until I run out of my vitamins to try it out. Kind of nervous because I heard it tastes bad- chalky.
I really hesitate to post this .
I may get literally kicked off the site by a very judgmental clearly ninety year old censor who?s a close relative of the retired owner and founder of ObesityHelp, Eric .
I feel there is this huge prejudice here concerning alcohol and drugs .
As a result of preaching Nancy - Reagan like ... just say no ... don?t do it lol ... we?re basically turning off and turning away every young person coming here for help .
ObesityHelp isn?t a quilting bee . It isn?t a place to talk about your grandkids or your aging issues ... it?s for EVERYONE struggling with their weight .
MOST of ( the younger I guess though I know plenty of cocaine cowboys from the seventies and eighties and nineties ) us have tried to control our weight with coke and meth and maybe prescribed Adderall and antidepressants .
I feel we can?t talk about struggles freely here from this cult - like censorship.
I subjected myself to AA and OA for thirty years ... since I was under fifteen . I don?t believe in it . It?s a cult .
Bill W died an alcoholic because he plagiarized the writings of a thirteenth century Jewish physician to the Ottoman ( Arab) emperor (Maimonides ) who actually wrote the ? twelve steps? .
This twentieth century Harvard educated alcoholic assohole just copied them .... and justified and got away with it because of virulent anti Semitism .
When he was subsequently lionized for achievements that were clearly not his own years later he got and stayed drunk lol. Typical piece of **** alcoholic .
Please stop preaching that cultish nonsense here - especially pretending there?s no reasonable alternative.
You grandmas probably don?t like this but realistic facts are all people are doing much more drugs than EVER.
It?s a realistic part of happy overweight recovery that we can post HONESTLY without idiots getting on our case ( who are probably drinking and using THEMSELVES... maybe pain pills maybe prescribed but it?s all the same .
Please stop judging and start THINKING and HELPING (((())))) hugs
You have to get with the right bariatric team first ... who KNOW from extensive experience how to present your case for approval to your insurance company.
That said - you will NEVER be happy with strictly health related results .
OBVIOUSLY you probably need an apron removal and liposuction and a navel repositioning and probably an upper and lower tightening to achieve the flat abdomen you deserve .
All of this might be far cheaper and more affordable in Mexico . There are GREAT, SAFE and awesome plastic surgeons there post op patients ( like myself ) can recommend wholeheartedly.
