Surgery problems?
Yea, that's my point. You can do all of that without having surgery. Why remove 2/3rds of someone's stomach if it's not going to help them lose weight? It's like these clinics are just making a fortune off this unnecessary surgery and then just telling the patient "don't eat too much or you won't lose weight." Duh! Everyone already knows that... but people have trouble following that advise so seek a more drastic solution. Which apparently doesn't work because you end up in the same situation less a big part of your stomach.
More spec to the question you pose here:
Without surgery, 3-5% keep wt off long term. Are you one of them?
With surgery, roughly, 50% of the people keep off a substantial amt of wt long term.
You may be one of the few people that surgery does not help or you may have unrealistic expectations (it's not too late to understand what the surgery can and cannot do for you). It is truly not a magic bullet, but, see my other reply, the advice you are getting does not seem as helpful as the guidance I get from the support staff at my surg office. Also, because you say that you never eat out, I know that you are making many good decisions. That can come later, you are still in the 'training wheels' stage.
Before I had the surgery, I knew that I had 3 choices:
-Do nothing, which means a wt gain of 5-10 pounds a year on average
-Go on another diet for 1-2 yr and spend the next 2-3 gaining it back
-Try wt loss surgery
Keeping it off has not been easy, truly, on many days I feel as you do. Hang in there.
There are times that I think I was born at the wrong time. 150 years ago, my natural Rubenesque figure was the rage, 100 years from now, they will have a one-time pill. Oh, well. We hang in there, now.
Sharon
I am 7 years post RNY, so my thoughts may not exactly apply, but here goes:
What you are eating/drinking is not making sense to me.
Fluids empty quite quickly (and so do many foods). You are 6 months post op, so I would think you should be on 3 small meals of protein and some vegs(small amounts), one snack. And for the snack, if I had to have something apple-ish, I would go for a solid piece of apple rather than applesauce. (Personally, my recommended snack is hi-protein yogurt, with some benefiber or some fiber one cereal, if you catch my drift. ) I have no clue why you would have applesauce for a snack - maybe not many calories, but no protein, and no 'staying power' in terms of satiety, IMHO. Also satiety comes from chewing also, and it gives you brain more time to know what is happening in your body.
Weigh and measure everything. You are still in the 'science experiment' phase - finding out what tastes OK and is filling. I would also write down the time you eat and how full you feel. I do not understand why you are having 2 protein shakes everyday at this far out from surgery, unless you are having post-surg healing issues or can not eat real protein (but you say you can eat seemingly without restriction.)
You may need to sit down with a dietician who helps post bari-surg patients. Is there one at your dr.'s office? If not, I would start to find one. Are you attending monthly support group meetings? There are some virtual ones now. Great way to ask questions.
With some help, 800 calories of the right food may help you to feel satisfied.
What I am trying to say is this:
Good job for reaching out!!
Despite your current difficulties, it is too soon to think that your surgery is a 'failure'.
Remember Science Lab from school - keep a notebook of what when how you feel before and after eating - this will help a pro help you.
If the best advice you can get from your drs office is 2 prt shakes and a meal each day (not just your dr/surgeon but other staff there - nuit, diet, counselors - I usually meet with the PA.) - find someone else. A great surgeon, is not necessarily the best person to assist long-term. If I was told to stay on 2 protein shakes and a small meal, as in FOREVER, I would prob feel as you do. Sometimes I have some salmon for breakfast (very Nordic) , and I am usually full. But it took awhile to find a meal plan that I could get through the day with . At 7 years out, the surgery makes me a little less hungry, but I have to be very careful and diet and exercise. And I still struggle with regain.
Here is a link to a standard post-bari plan. It may give you some questions to ask you dr next time. I did not use this, but i remember something like this to follow. https://www.brighamandwomens.org/assets/bwh/surgery/center-f or-metabolic-and-bariatric-surgery/pdfs/nutrition-guidelines -sleeve-gastrectomy-and-gastric-bypass.pdf
Sharon
Nobody told me to have two protein shakes a day. It's just easy so that's what I've been doing. There is a dietician at the clinic that I saw once before the surgery. I can't remember most of what we talked about.... I cancelled my future appointments with the surgeon because they are pointless. I just go in, weigh, tell him I haven't lost any weight again, he reiterates the importance of staying at 800 calories or less per day and then I leave feeling like a stupid failure.... I don't see any reason to continue doing that.
I don't know much about food and nutrition. I eat things that I can grab and eat without having to prepare anything. I don't even care if it's heated up or just cold. So I'm sure there are things I could be eating that are better choices. I'm just not aware of them.
10 years ago I weighed 185lbs and worked out 5 days a week. I got out of that habit and started gaining weight. I'm never successful with diets and when I've tried to get back into working out the weight causes me all kinds of knee and hip pain that makes it prohibitive. I was hoping with this surgery I'd lose the weight and could start running and mountain biking again to stay in shape but no such luck. I guess I can go see the dietician again and tell her I'm an idiot and don't know what to eat...
I agree you need to weigh and measure. I got to 400 pounds thinking "i didn't eat that much". Really 6 months out is still really early. There's a lot of behavior change that needs to happen. I'm 6 YEARS out and still have to fight my fat girl ways of eating.