Help me my daughter doesn't want me to have surgery

hollykim
on 5/15/20 1:50 pm - Nashville, TN
Revision on 03/18/15
On May 15, 2020 at 5:00 PM Pacific Time, btm61 wrote:

Kelly,

Congratulations on your loss and maintaining it. As for me I am in a Medically Managed Program eating 3 square meals per day, plus snacks, using the USDA recommended 2000 calories per day. My last weigh-in in February, prior to our facility closing due to COVID, had me down 110 pounds total and I still have about 100 more to go, give or take. In my program I meet monthly with a RD, with a MS in Nutrition, to go over my food diary that I keep on myfitnesspal.com. I utilize a custom-tailored exercise program designed by the Exercise Physiologist at our facility and workout about 6 days per week, mixing strength (3 days per week) and cardio work (5-6 days per week) and we update that program about every 4-6 weeks. Additionally I meet with a LPN with specialized training in weight loss on a bi-monthly basis to make sure I'm on track medically and psychologically as well. Together these three people and their support staff keep me on track, and while there are bumps in the road to be sure, they also insure that I don't allow myself to dwell on my failures and that I get up, dust myself off, and get going again. It has been a life-altering experience for me and my family as well.

that is all excellent and do please keep us updated as you progress thru the rest of your loss and maintenance.

 


          

 

NYC-Hot-Stuff
on 5/22/20 7:43 am

Any surgery practice, surgeon, NP, RD or other, that does not make it clear from the outset that surgery is not a magical solution should lose its/their/his/her license to practice.

It is a responsible, potential patient, however, who goes in for information to ask about all aspects of a procedure. Too many practitioners in all areas of medicine are lax about giving the full story to patients. I will never defend them, but we, the patients, should be approaching everything about our health as though we are our own grown-ups.

Janet P.
on 5/13/20 4:07 am
On May 12, 2020 at 4:55 PM Pacific Time, Aprilgetinghealth wrote:

Help me my daughter doesn't want me to have surgery , I weigh over 600lbs and my daughter says I should not have surgery, and I should just eat right and exercise.What should I tell that I need surgery to help me loss weight.

Ask her why? Is she normal weight? Does she live with you and help you in your day to day life? Is she just worried about the surgery itself? That makes sense not wanting her mom to have major surgery, because that's what this is.

I'm not going to tell you what to tell her. You have to know why you're having surgery and you have to be able to explain it. A doctor is going to ask you the same question.

Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
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dcbrown3
on 5/13/20 6:34 am

I find a lot of times when people make that comment it's due to lack of knowledge. They see the surgery as a quick fix and don't see the work that has to go into it before or after. Like btm61 said this is a tool not a cure all. There's a lot of work and ha*****anges that have to be made afterwards. I haven't had the surgery yet, but in the near future and I'm looking forward to putting in the work afterwards and seeing the results. The people I know that have had the most success after have been the ones to follow their program with better eating habits and exercise. If you aren't fully ready to embrace this it isn't going to work.

What are your daughter's concerns? I had a friend that was worried about me under going the surgery and the risks of the complications. But, she was open and wanted to learn so she could support me on this journey. She's still worried something may happen, but it is major surgery there is always that chance. But, she is now fully supportive and will ask me questions and make sure I'm following the habits I'm supposed to be working on.

When I first started this process I was worried about others' opinions and what they were going to think, but like she said this my life, my health, my decision to embrace it and tell people if they can't be supportive to keep their opinion to themselves. Since we've had this talk I've become a lot more comfortable with my decision and telling people how it is.

You need to explain to her the risks of the surgery and the risks of not having the surgery. I don't want to assume, but like most of us I'm betting there's other underlying health issues than just the weight. You need to do what's best for YOUR health and she'll just need to come to terms with it.

H.A.L.A B.
on 5/13/20 10:47 am

There are studies that show losing weight by diet and exercise have 5% chance to be successful. While any good WLS has at least 50% probability that losing weight and keeping it off for more than 2 years is possible.

I'm 12 years post op.The most re-gained was 30 lbs, stilt rather "safe and not too bad" weight on my body. I was not able to do that without WLS.

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

btm61
on 5/15/20 10:07 am

I'm not sure where you are getting your data, but those who utilize a Medically Managed Program, which has very specific criteria, according to a study done by Stanford University, have a 65% success rate. Undoubtedly, the data you are citing incluses for profit programs like Nutrisystem and Weigh****chers, which are actually designed for failure, and NOT success.

Laura in Texas
on 5/17/20 5:09 am

Most people cannot afford a long term treatment like this and it is not covered by insurance. And when they stop going to these appointments, they will gain, too.

Laura in Texas

53 years old; 5'7" tall; HW: 339 (BMI=53); GW: 140 CW: 170 (BMI=27)

RNY: 09-17-08 Dr. Garth Davis

brachioplasty: 12-18-09 Dr. Wainwright; lbl/bl: 06-28-11 Dr. LoMonaco

"May your choices reflect your hopes and not your fears."

btm61
on 5/17/20 7:27 am

Actually it is covered by insurance, in fact my insurance covers it 100%. Your summation is also quite wrong. No doubt you are getting your info from a wls surgeon, or a source beholding to the wls community. Your comment also indicates a common misconception, regardless of the path chosen, surgery or Medically Managed, there is no "quick fix" when it comes to weight loss. In fact, it is a battle for a lifetime, and there are very few people who will ever have the courage to tell you that. Have a great day.

Laura in Texas
on 5/18/20 7:06 am

OK. If you say so??? I stand behind my statement.

Honestly since you are hidden behind your computer screen with no pictures I think I can speak for most of us here that we don't believe your claims of success.

I am not sure what your agenda is. My guess is that you have already had WLS and gained all of your weight back. You blame the surgery and want to "save" all the preops here so that they do not follow in your footsteps.

I won't waste any more of my time responding to you. I am responding now so that others can read my comments. Anti- surgery bullies like you hurt too many people here.

Laura in Texas

53 years old; 5'7" tall; HW: 339 (BMI=53); GW: 140 CW: 170 (BMI=27)

RNY: 09-17-08 Dr. Garth Davis

brachioplasty: 12-18-09 Dr. Wainwright; lbl/bl: 06-28-11 Dr. LoMonaco

"May your choices reflect your hopes and not your fears."

btm61
on 5/18/20 7:52 am

Laura,

It's interesting you want to call me a liar not knowing me at all, and then want to hide so you don't have to defend yourself. I don't have an agenda except to inform people of facts that, based on the posts of others, your surgeon isn't sharing with you. Here is a link to an article in our local newspaper telling my story. This was featured last spring so not all of the data is current. It would also be helpful for you to know that it is my goal to establish a new record for net weight lost on the Med Managed plan at our center. If not this year, certainly by early next year.

https://goshenhealth.com/blog-articles/april-2019/gaining-mo re-out-of-life-by-losing-weight-one-step

I was also featured in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOdRck4kRx4&list=PL-pWCbHcwS oqzs_v8aCRMBHtU5cH0qdHd&index=4&t=0s

Now, Laura, how about you step out from behind YOUR computer screen.

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