Thank You For Your Interesting Replies

Again I want to b encouraging and always supportive . This journey is really like peeling an onion . Very gradually you lose a little and get a little happier but we all want to make it happen overnight and it doesn't . It's very easy to get snarky with helpful sincere people because we're angry and frustrated and maybe even jealous .

I'm really sorry you regained. It must have been hell and probably is even a greater trial coming to terms with it and re-losing . ((()))) it DOES get a lot easier . Love

I think you either misread or misunderstood Rocky's post. Her 130 lbs over her ideal weight was the weight before her WLS. Not a regain weight.

It is probably an honest mistake, when you just assume things as you read it.

Bless your heart....

I didn't regain 130 pounds...that is what originally I lost with WLS. I am within 10 pounds of my lowest weight. I'm a 34 year WLS veteran. Had VBG in 1985 and was revised to RNY in 2010 due to a severe mechanical malfunction. I have been married to a wonderful guy for 30 years and have a beautiful daughter and grandchildren. I assure you...I am a very happy girl...and I don't need a bottle of wine, mixed with antidepressants and sleeping pills, to relax.

You should talk about snark. I've been on this site for almost 13 years. I know you, Ava. I've seen your brand of crazy through multiple incarnations. Meow1, Meow2, Meow3, quutgirl...and whatever other screen names you've had. If people really want to know who they are dealing with when they interact with you, they should check out your posting history. You have insulted people, you have replied to posters while you were in a drunken or drug induced stupor. You have given the worst possible advice and then you play the victim when you are called out. There is a reason that you have been blocked from the menu thread....and it's not because the poster is a bully, as you suggested in another thread. The bully is you.

Rocky I have really never insulted ANYONE . Just not my nature . I rarely comment on even on people's food choices though many let loose on mine because these are personal decisions and I was raised that it's very rude to criticize others ' food . You will notice I never call anyone insane or troubled or respond to the snarky personal criticisms of me by responding in kind .

A sense of humor is a good thing as is gratitude and self-confidence and love and understanding of the foibles of your fellow humans . If God made all the same the world would be a far less rich and amusing place . ((()))

I guess you believe that if you insult someone and then go back and edit your posts to reflect something entirely different, we forget what you said. I'm not the only person who knows this about you, as is evident in this post.

You have told so many lies....I don't have time to list the links.

Seriously...get some help.

Edited to add link.

Isn't it silly to baselessly accuse someone ? Yes it worked for misogynist angry Donald Trump against poor female Hillary Clinton ... you would think on THIS site posters would be supportive rather than Re-enacting " Mean Girls " 30 years too late . Lol picture ME saying Please Grow Up!!

MY surgeon at mayo did not want me to drink protein shakes BUT protein first was stressed over and over must be followed for life

Sadly, there ARE new post ops who would look at you, fall for all of your stories, see how skinny and fabulous you say you are, and try to emulate you and start drinking. I would hope there aren't, but you never know. You're many years out, considered by some to be a success, I'm sure. A newbie might look at your profile, read your words, and decide your way of life is for them. But-it isn't. They become an alcoholic. They drive drunk. They kill people. It probably would never happen, but FFS-why chance it?? Maybe the site removed that post because they had to cover their asses in case that ever happened.

You were encouraging other post-ops to drink alcohol which goes against surgeons' advice post op. "Party line" or not; it's what is recommended for all post ops because it can lead to alcoholism. I don't know of any surgeon who would EVER be okay with a patient of theirs drinking on a daily basis, let alone drinking all day long, and then mixing alcohol with prescription medication. That is not healthy behavior for anyone, weight loss surgery or not, and should NEVER BE ENCOURAGED. EVER.

I never said day drinking was a good idea lol! What I did say is I got in trouble with transfer addiction like many post ops here and outside this forum . I had practically no alcohol experience whatsoever as long as I was getting drunk daily binging excess food .

I did sincerely try abstinence and stuck out the " thirteen stepping " excuses of male-dominated ( and lowlife newcomer female behavior excusing AA) . My point is there are other addiction therapies than abstinence that have far higher recovery rates than twelve step based abstinence . There are very interesting popular books available on the subject and even hugely expensive rehabs mostly on the west coast where addiction is an exponentially more serious problem . I'm just trying to open a discussion on what works for us based on personal experience .

Hiw do you deal with pressure , going to sleep at night , dating , social events and work events ? I need another way to relax than exhausting myself with three hours of working out to get a runners high ( and even with that I find myself craving relief and relaxation after dinner)

I never said "day drinking" in my post. Your original post claims that you allowed yourself 5 glasses (one bottle) of wine every night. That is not a good choice.

Your original post talked about wanting the "high" you used to get from food. Now you have replaced that with alcohol, which you are taking with antidepressants and sleeping pills. You are not addressing your addictions. You are trying to justify them. Your post stated that you feel much healthier, more energetic and happier, and more psychologically flexible having a few relaxing drinks. That sounds, to me, like you are advocating for people to drink.

Get help, Ava. This has gone on for a long time with you. You are playing a dangerous game with your life.